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Girls get extra school help while boys get Ritalin
USA Today/Yahoo ^ | 8/29/03 | USA Today - Staff

Posted on 08/29/2003 3:09:56 PM PDT by Pro-Bush

Girls get extra school help while boys get Ritalin

At last June's graduation at Franklin High School just outside of Milwaukee, three of the four students who tied for valedictorian were girls. Among the National Honor Society members, 76% were girls. And girls comprised 85% of the students on Franklin's 4.0 honor roll.

The superintendent of schools for this upper-middle-class suburb, Gerald Freitag, investigated those numbers after the parents of a boy filed a complaint. He found that the skewed performances by gender at Franklin pretty much mirror the imbalances across the state and the nation.

This week, teachers at the middle school feeding into Franklin received training on how to reach out to boys. And high school teachers will continue the gender-sensitivity classes they began last school year.

But reversing the trend will not be easy. In classrooms nationwide, girls are pulling ahead of boys academically. Recent federal testing data show that what starts out as a modest gap in elementary-level reading scores turns into a yawning divide by high school. In 12th grade, 44% of girls rate as proficient readers on federal tests, compared with 28% of boys. And while boys still score slightly higher on federal math and science exams, their advantage is slipping.

Most startling is that little is being done to correct the imbalances. All of the major players schools, education colleges and researchers largely ignore the gender gap. Instead of pursuing sound solutions, many educators merely advocate prescribing more attention-focusing Ritalin (news - web sites) for the boys, who receive the drug at four to eight times the rate of girls, according to different estimates. "Too often the first reaction to an attention problem is 'Let's medicate,' " says Rockville, Md., child psychologist Neil Hoffman. "Some schools are quick to recommend solutions before they've fully evaluated the problem."

Playing to girls' strengths

One reason boys are losing academic ground to girls appears linked to a shift by schools to more word-based learning for which girls' brains are believed to have an advantage. Over the years, even math problems have become more word oriented, according to education researchers. But because schools are doing little to help boys adjust, males risk becoming second-class academic citizens. Already the academic success girls enjoy in high school translates into more college acceptances 56% of the students on campuses are female.

The full impact from this shift is something society has yet to discover. But a drop in earnings for males is one likely result. Workers with only a high school diploma earn $20,000 a year less than those with a bachelor's degree.

One fact explains why educators are ignoring boys' needs: You can't address a problem that you don't admit exists. The U.S. Department of Education (news - web sites) concedes that no serious research is available comparing different instructional methods that might help boys. In fact, many education researchers are hostile toward research aimed at exploring gender differences in learning.

Last April, when Kenneth Dragseth, superintendent of schools in Edina, Minn., presented a paper describing his district's gender gap at the American Educational Research Association's annual meeting in Chicago, he says the reception ranged from chilly to hostile. Female education researchers in the audience questioned whether helping boys would mean hurting girls.

Their attitude follows years of lobbying by groups such as the American Association of University Women, which alerted educators to the fact that girls were being shortchanged academically in the fields of math and science. The extra attention helped focus schools on girls' difficulties, but it has made it too easy for educators to overlook the problems of boys. Among them:

Boys and girls learn differently. The best research on boy-girl learning differences is produced more by accident than by design. The lack of data in this field can hurt girls as much as boys. For instance, as part of an ongoing 20-year dyslexia study focusing on Connecticut schools, Yale neuroscientist and pediatrician Sally Shaywitz discovered that schools were identifying four times as many dyslexic boys as girls. Yet when her team entered schools to screen children, it diagnosed just as many dyslexic girls as boys. Shaywitz found that the mostly female teaching staff was quicker to identify rambunctious boys than quiet girls.

The results are just one example of what might be learned about the role gender plays in education, especially in elementary school, where 85% of teachers are women.

Future teachers aren't trained to deal with learning differences. Therapist Michael Gurian, author of Boys and Girls Learn Differently!, has visited more than 100 education colleges. But he has not found one that offers courses on male-female brain differences. His discovery explains why many new teachers arrive in classrooms clueless about what teaching techniques might work best for boys' learning styles.

Boys lack advocates. The special efforts made by schools to steer more girls into advanced math and science classes came after powerful advocacy groups embraced the problem. But Gurian and other advocates for boys say they run into resistance from educators who point to males' success in the workforce as proof that advocacy for boys is unnecessary.

In spite of the lack of research, anecdotal evidence shows that far more effective strategies are available for teaching boys than plying them with Ritalin. Patricia Henley runs a boy-friendly charter school in Kansas that hires many male teachers. It also recognizes boys' natural tendency to favor active learning by conducting more class work on the chalkboard and allowing more student movement within the classroom. And the school trains teachers to deal with boys' particular styles. For instance, because boys volunteer answers more slowly than girls do, teachers are told to count to 10 before calling on a student.

Beginning in the early 1990s, groups such as the American Association of University Women performed an important service by alerting the public to an educational failing. Their persistence helped convince educators that schools were ignoring important problems plaguing girls, such as the loss of self-esteem among middle school girls who had been successful students throughout elementary school.

Today's education system fails many boys. They deserve the same kind of attention to address why they are losing ground.


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To: mtbopfuyn
Obviously you don't have kids in school. I have a son and girls. The schools teach the way girls learn. That's a fact.

All you have to do is to have a boy and girl and know the difference between the sexes. Then go sit in on a couple of elementary school classes. It's very obvious.

In 2nd grade, my son had a new young teacher at his Christian private school. She was the worst at teaching boys.

She wouldn't even let kids go to the bathroom, and my son had accidents. She said he had to go during lunch or recess. Well, how many boys are going to stop playing to go to the bathroom. The class should have a standard bathroom time. (That's how they did it when I was a kid.)

She also thought he was ADD. We pulled him out of the school and placed him in a public school. The public school tested him, and he is gifted.

The public school is not perfect, but it does have a hands on science program that is very good for boys. The math program is also great.

After the private Christian school, my son tested only 60% in math against the national average for his yearly testing. After only a year at public school he tested at 99% in math. Both years his reading scores were above 90%.

The schools also want kids to write a lot, and boys do not have as good of fine motor skill development as girls. The girls can write neater and faster, so they get the better grades in writing.
121 posted on 08/30/2003 9:28:58 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: afraidfortherepublic
In the 80s there were more women in my engineering classes. At least 10% women, and I was one of them.
122 posted on 08/30/2003 9:31:49 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
My reasoning does not imply a smaller male applicant pool. Where did you get that? At issue is the academic record of the applicant pool not the size of the applicant pool.

It is a fact, however, at many schools boys don't need as strong an academic record as girls. And Blacks and Hispanics don't need as strong an academic record as girls. Do you conclude this is all because lesbians in control of the admissions offices? Now that's funny!

123 posted on 08/30/2003 9:33:24 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Dianna
Kids do as they are trained and instructed through habit and example, biology isnt 'different' from years past only expectations.

We send our kids to private Christian school that teaches in old-fashioned ways with memorization of math facts, cursive script writing, and extensive reading from kindergerten on. Our 7 year old starting third grade has read complete adult-level books already (eg Narnia tales) and reads on a level akin to 5th and 6th grader from public school; math skills also ahead of the public school norm by a few grades.

The computer prof is just defining expectations down. Children will rise or fall to expectations and examples set of them. Sure bulleted lists are easier to read, but they can harldy contain a complex deductive argument, unless written in symbolic form.

As for ADD, ADHD:
The fact that some kids have more difficulty focussing on task is no more surprising than the fact that some kids have different IQs, different energy levels, and different preferred modes of learning (learn by doing or learn via verbal instruction or visual cues). Calling this natural difference a "disorder" is imho wrong except in extreme cases, and the fact that suddenly we find 'millions' of such cases is imho clear evidence that teachers are 'looking under the lighted lamppost' for excuses not real causes of getting kids to learn.

I say this even though I too have a freind who told me ritalin saved him from trouble in youth; I also have a nephew being given it and frankly it is a crying shame and not appropriate for him, just medicating what is imho a normal but slightly "spacey" kid with a good imagination.

The "ADD" claims, if they have validity, are related to brain wave functions, ie, inability to keep it beta wave function, and excess of "theta". Except theta waves are a source of deep 'intuitive' thinking, creativity, and loose connection 'insights' (see the book "Tortoise Mind, Hare Brain"). And except that ADD 'diagnoses' use social interaction not any real medical exam. Claims that deviations from appropriate behavior - or deviations from "best" beta wave functions - are a disorder is IMHO dangerous anti-diversity thinking.
Energetic, bounce-off-the-walls people can be vastly creative and wonderful, even if they might make lousy accountants. (OTOH, they can evolve, ie "grow up" and
They pay lip service to 'diversity' when melanin shades are different, but faced with real diversity of thinking skills/modes in the classroom, they want to "medicate" it away. Humbug!

"But how much of this is caused by no one ever demanding that the kids learn the discipline necessary to sit down and read full sentences?" We wont know until the latter case is tried. It is sad that the 'high expectations school our kids are at (which costs only $2800/yr btw, so it bursts the bubble that good schooling costs a fortune), is the exception and not the rule. The list of what kids learn from 1st to 5th grades in the public schools is quite thin. And the students are from many socio-economic backgrounds many quite humble, ie normal average kids.

I am not shocked at all that high IQ boys who have an excess of impulsiveness and deficit in focus are being called "ADD" in a classroom where they are given low expectations and low standards, where the textbooks are made so politically correct they are as bland as cream of wheat, and where competitiveness is frowned on and rambunctiousness is a threat: There is a word for all that - BORING. I was an A student but I sure had plenty of eyes-glazed-out-the-window-bored-of-school times. Undoubtably, Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn would be called ADD and their adventures would be about how they hung out at home ate ho-hos and watched Nick TV. Real teachers would take it as an appropriate CHALLENGE to teach to the 'boys' and the kinds of kids 'at risk' for ADD categorization in ways that teaches them properly without medication. JMHO.

124 posted on 08/30/2003 9:54:01 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: Orlando
Yes, women's studies, gender studies and the new innovation
gay-lesbian-trangenders studies is horribly non-academic and wholly polemical culture-bending and politicization.

These infestations are deliberate attempts to carve out havens of radicalism on campus, un-moored by reason and unaccountable for in any scientific or ojective way. (How can you not have a "Gay studies" course that is not a polemic?)

These should be closed and the profs should be returned to the Sociology, Humanities, Philosophy, Anthropology, Linguistics or History depts from whence they came; or if not that, returned to the nearest street corner from whence they came.

As for Title IX, the Bush admin sadly ducked the chance to fundamentally alter it, after considering such proposals.
125 posted on 08/30/2003 9:59:16 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: 7th_Sephiroth
Men have to stand up, stop takeing ritilin, and just protest the Pussification of america. Pardon my filthy french.

LOL ... remember "We're fierce, we're feminists, we're in your face .." ? Needs a retort. maybe .... "Men, it's time to grow a pair!"

126 posted on 08/30/2003 10:04:28 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"A 60/40 college enrollment split in favor of girls exists today -- they're admitting 20% more girls than boys from an equal number of applicants. Period."

Ah, but dont girls have higher grades, making it a ready excuse for the admissions offices.

The flipside of this bias in grading towards girls is that boys 'test better' than girls. Ah, but the wise ones tell us NOT that this is evidence that subjective grading is easier on girls, but that standardized tests on geometry and basic math are somehow the things that are biased.
Average SAT scores are higher for boys than girls, in particular in math.

127 posted on 08/30/2003 10:10:52 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Perhaps you haven't been on many college campuses lately. They are being run and staffed by lesbians.

All the more reason why colleges may not be the best place for boys (or girls, for that matter). I would get my son or daughter out of that place ASAP if that is the case.

And not everyone who thinks boys are getting short-changed is male.

I agree and stated that I sympathized with the situation of boys in schools.

You have no idea of my or anyone's feminist credentials.

I'm not sure what this means.

What I stated was that blaming "feminists" all the time is avoiding the responsibility that men have toward young males and their well being.

I don't know your feminist credentials or whether you are male or female. I stand by my comments either way.

Conservative men should quit griping and get on with changing the system that is detrimental to boys. Please go back and read my remarks. They are supportive of boys in schools, but call for the MEN to do something.

128 posted on 08/30/2003 10:21:26 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: ladyjane; Pro-Bush; WOSG
You're fabricating these stats. They don't jive with the real world.

From our well-established, nationally-known high school, DOZENS of girls with 1200 SATs and 3.0 grade averages were admitted to prestigious state universities over DOZENS of boys with 1450 SATs and 4.0 GPAs.

When asked why this was, the response came back "because we need to give the girls a helping hand." This was two years ago.

Nothing you've offered is supported by fact.

I wish it were.

129 posted on 08/30/2003 10:25:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Well that is the most sexist statment I have read all day.

Sorry, but I don't "do" P.C. comments.

There are many traditional men's jobs that pay well enough to support oneself and a family without college, i.e. "bluecollar" work.

"Pinkcollar jobs" are not nearly as renumerative. That's just the truth.

130 posted on 08/30/2003 10:26:38 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: ladyjane; Pro-Bush; WOSG
My reasoning does not imply a smaller male applicant pool.

I'm sorry. I thought you read your own posts.

There is such a high percentage of women applying to college that the admission offices have different standards depending on the sex of the applicant.

Ignoring your doubletalk, why don't we simply go back to ADMITTING STUDENTS ON MERIT.

Radical, huh?

131 posted on 08/30/2003 10:34:52 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: happygrl; Pro-Bush; WOSG; xzins
They'll probably get jobs as plumbers...

Kindly spare me your condescending suggestion that my sons go to a trade school while the girls next door get their law degrees, medical diplomas and MBAs.

Certainly conservative men should stand up and make waves. They're trying with Title IX; the institutional bias is vast and deep.

And they're not being helped by anti-male attitudes like yours. (Insert your protestation here.)

132 posted on 08/30/2003 10:42:21 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: ladyjane
It is a fact, however, at many schools boys don't need as strong an academic record as girls.

Source, please.

133 posted on 08/30/2003 10:42:35 AM PDT by stands2reason
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To: annyokie
I have taken the battle to new heights.

I am an indenpendent business person, and I do appreciate the jury system, but I get called now every year simply because they know I will come. So, on the last application I put down that I have ADD(? ADT - I can't remember, I must have walked out during the commercial.) I certainly do by all the commonly cited symptoms. In particular, I get really bored, particularly in front of TV or in a meeting or classroom. As long as I can remember I have found it helpful to close my eyes to in order to not loose track of what someone boring is saying to me, and people hate that. I can't imagine the judge would like it, but watching most people go about their business makes me think the world has shifted into slow motion.

Not bragging, but I recently read the autobiography of a famous lawyer. In the book, he included a sworn testament from a business partner who watched him write a speech to give to a political convention in the evening of the same day while in the afternoon he handled a law suit in court. He won the case and finished the speech all in the same afternoon. He never took notes in court as he believed that if he couldn't remember something about the case, neither could the jury. No doubt the judge believed he was taking notes. I am not so sure society would be better off by eliminating such people.

134 posted on 08/30/2003 10:43:15 AM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: xzins; George W. Bush; fortheDeclaration; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; jude24
Ping to the last 30 posts from here.
135 posted on 08/30/2003 10:46:07 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Alberta's Child
When I consider prospective hires for the company I work for, the ideal candidate for an entry-level position is someone with a sharp mind who was bored beyond belief at school. All other things being equal, I will hire a person with a GPA of 2.8 before I ever hire someone with a 4.0. Seriously.

Same here, mostly because that describes me. My high school GPA was whopping 2.4 (though my SATs were very high), but I somehow managed to become a leader in my field with several patents and theoretical advances credited to my name. I was willing to work hard, I just wasn't willing to waste my time doing mindless busywork to satisfy the meaningless goal of some chimp-for-teacher, which shows in my grades. School has always been deadly boring for me.

In fact, I am suspicious of people with a 4.0 GPA. It suggests submission to the demands of an "authority" that is best ignored most of the time, a sort of subtle indicator of a possible character flaw. People with perfect GPAs always seem to be people who put an unjustified amount of effort and value in the process itself rather than the end results.

136 posted on 08/30/2003 10:46:22 AM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: happygrl
Are you a plumber?

Is your daughter studying to become an electrician? (Spare me the defense of these noble professions.)

137 posted on 08/30/2003 10:51:23 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Please, I am not being anti-male. Actually, I think you're being a snob if you think that plumbers and electricians aren't valued and important contributors. They DO make a lot of money and they WON'T have their jobs outsourced.

Actually it was supposed to be an attempt at humor but I guess it didn't make it there.

I have found a strong anti-female "victimization" stance on FR. The same people who would protest the victimization plea of other groups quite adeptly postures themselves that way as men.

Men are grownups. They should be looking out for these boys. That is my point.

Quit whining and do something about it.

138 posted on 08/30/2003 10:55:01 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: tortoise
Sounds familiar. I had a 2.0 in High School. Flunked Algebra twice. Barly graduated because of some messiness in senior English.

12 years later my GPA for my Masters of Science was a 3.87. I asked my mom if she though she would ever see me get a masters, her response was "There was a time I didn't think you would get a high school diploma."
139 posted on 08/30/2003 10:55:29 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why TULIP? Because the Bible teaches it as the inspired word of The One Holy Sovereign God!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You're spared.

Get over your snobbery.

140 posted on 08/30/2003 10:56:13 AM PDT by happygrl
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