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To: ladyjane; Pro-Bush; WOSG
You're fabricating these stats. They don't jive with the real world.

From our well-established, nationally-known high school, DOZENS of girls with 1200 SATs and 3.0 grade averages were admitted to prestigious state universities over DOZENS of boys with 1450 SATs and 4.0 GPAs.

When asked why this was, the response came back "because we need to give the girls a helping hand." This was two years ago.

Nothing you've offered is supported by fact.

I wish it were.

129 posted on 08/30/2003 10:25:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"From our well-established, nationally-known high school, DOZENS of girls with 1200 SATs and 3.0 grade averages were admitted to prestigious state universities over DOZENS of boys with 1450 SATs and 4.0 GPAs.

When asked why this was, the response came back "because we need to give the girls a helping hand." This was two years ago."

My own personal experience: in 1981, not getting into Ivy League Schools with a 1430 SATs, scads of 5s on AP tests and 800 on several college boards, extr-curricular stuff and straight As ... while girls with lower SATs and academic records from the same school; also, saw some minority and athletic 'accepts' to Harvard, brown, etc.
In 1989, not getting any help on scholarship aid at a time when the research grant supporting my PhD studies was pulled; yet in my search finding many many 'women and minority only' scholarships. In the end, I took a part-time programming job to support myself.
Seeing a friend around that time search for a math teaching job, with difficulty, finally he did accept a University post at a lesser institution as a Prof in Math; had he been a woman, he would have easily been accepted at a much more prestigious institution, as at the same time women getting advanced degrees were also searching and getting relatively better jobs yet with weaker 'vita'. Why, because there is a perception that there is a 'shortage of women' - which they might as well describe as an 'excess of men' - and thus lesser qualified women get better positions (another example: a female friend got a quite good position even though she had finished her PhD studies nor gottern her degree.)

It is certainly the case that feminized thinking is pervasive and deep and the bias extends from grade school teaching, through college admission, to employment at the University, ie, getting a professorship.
And this bias is hardly denied - it is considered "a good thing".
147 posted on 08/30/2003 11:18:53 AM PDT by WOSG
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