Speeding and web cams to stop the slaughter

USA Today ^ | 8/28/2003 | USA Today

[kkindt]

A self-proclaimed speeder, Janklow got 12 speeding tickets in 11 South Dakota counties from 1990 to 1994 and paid more than $1,000 in fines. He often drove 15 mph to 20 mph faster than legal speed limits and once got caught going 90 mph in a 65-mph zone.

[kkindt]

IF web cameras were used in South Dakota to give out tickets - expensive ones - to those who run stop signs and red lights and speed - perhaps this representaive would have lost his permission to drive a long time ago.

[So Cal Rocket]

Yes!! And while we're at it, why don't we put cameras in bars to see who's drinking too much... and cameras in your home to see if you're using illicit drugs...

After all...it's for the children!

[aimhigh]

Cars are the number one source of deaths and permanent injuries, yet the liberals always point to guns. Liberals like to speed.

[dirtboy]

IF web cameras were used in South Dakota to give out tickets - expensive ones - to those who run stop signs and red lights and speed - perhaps this representaive would have lost his permission to drive a long time ago.

Say what? Read this snippet again:

A self-proclaimed speeder, Janklow got 12 speeding tickets in 11 South Dakota counties from 1990 to 1994 and paid more than $1,000 in fines. He often drove 15 mph to 20 mph faster than legal speed limits and once got caught going 90 mph in a 65-mph zone.

Sounds to me that in most states he would have had his license suspended for points. Even at only two points a ticket, that's 24 points over five years.

And the motorcycle accident happened in a rural area - are you gonna put up a red-light camera at every rural intersection in the state?

Enforce the existing laws with existing police, and screw the cameras. Those are just money-making boondoggles that do nothing for safety.

[dirtboy]

and cameras in your home to see if you're using illicit drugs...

Put a drug testing device in every loo. That'll cathc 'em.

[Moose4]

Um...dude, if this guy's gotten 11 speeding tickets in FIVE YEARS, he shouldn't be driving. Is SD so lax that they'll let somebody keep driving who racks up that many points?

}:-)4

[mewzilla]

Who the heck was insuring this guy?

[DoughtyOne]

CHP investigating speeding Gray Davis motorcade

[jwalburg]

Is SD so lax that they'll let somebody keep driving who racks up that many points?

Yes

[dighton]

Please don't change headlines.

Congressman charged with second-degree manslaughter

Also, there's no need to excerpt articles from USA Today.

[jwalburg]

The same week as Janklow, this happened in the same general area:

Officer finds 6 family members dead at scene of crash

[Moose4]

Wow. If I remember my Virginia rules right, 11-20 over up there was 4 points. Something like 8 points in 6 months got you a nastygram from the DMV, much more than that and you had to do the defensive driving class, anything after that meant buh-bye license. That's just crazy that South Dakota would let him keep his license if he kept getting ticket after ticket.

I have to wonder if he was using the Constitutional protection against being arrested while Congress was in session?

}:-)4

[Bikers4Bush]

Better yet, let's put a government agent in every car to ride with us and instead install the webcams in our homes so we can be continuously monitored.

Stop sniffing the glue.

[CommerceComet]

Having driven through SD this summer, I would conclude that to be ticketed for speeding, you have to REALLY be speeding. Seemed pretty casual about speed limits there.

Given that and that Janklow is a well-known politician, he must have a chronic leadfoot to rack up that many tickets.

[mewzilla]

You think you have a constitutionally protected right to speed? Any other laws you feel free to violate? The gov't has every right to regulate driving. Public streets are just that, public. You have no expectation of privacy on a public street. Don't want a ticket? Don't speed. And before you flame my happy hind end, we've lost a family member to an idiot who was going eighty in a 55 MPH zone. You don't want to know what that feels like. And you sure as hell don't want to have to try to live your life knowing you've done that to someone else. Just obey the darn speed limits.

[discostu]

The guy got 11 tickets in 4 years, he should have lost his license then, of course he might have gotten it back in the interim. Of course being a Tucsonan I look at 15 over the limit and shrug, that's standard speed in most of the outlying areas of town.

Red light running simply isn't the epidemic the camera advocates say it is. Yeah it happens, yeah it often ends badly, but it doesn't happen often, this is just a revenue grab.

[discostu]

We do have a Constitutionally protected right to not be treated like criminals in our own car. Yes we not only DO have an expectation of privacy on a public street the courts have upheld that in multiple precidents.

I bet it feels like losing a family member usually feels like, now stop demanding legislation with your heart and using your brain. Adding cameras all over the city wouldn't have stopped that accident.

[mewzilla]

It's a public street. Driving is a privilege not a right. For pete's sake, let's use some sense of proportion here. And I'll be back in a monent if I can find you a link with proof that yes, Virginia, cameras do in fact curb bad behavior on our roadways :)

[mewzilla]

Click here for just one link. Feel free to ask me if you'd like another :)