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The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
The Bible - Luke 18 ^ | about 1970 years ago | Jesus Christ

Posted on 08/28/2003 12:24:49 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[1] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' 13 "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' 14 "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."


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To: Polycarp
Also the source for many "magicians" terms.

Hocus Pocus = Hoc est corpus
Abracadabra = composed of the initials of the Hebrew words ‘Ab’ (Father), ‘Ben’ (Son), and Ruach Acadsch (Holy Spirit)
121 posted on 08/28/2003 2:39:31 PM PDT by MalcolmS
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To: MEGoody
So the monuments to religious law-givers in the SCOTUS building are doing the same?

It's not a single display excluding others, and there are secular ones included as well (like Hammurabi). The SCOTUS has not said their authority derives from God. The SCOTUS has not said that these laws are the supreme law of the land.

How about all those statues to Greek and Roman gods in governmental buildings?

They are placed there as art, and are anyway nearly universally considered as myths. (I've never met a Zeus or Hera worshipper.)

124 posted on 08/28/2003 2:48:47 PM PDT by jimt
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To: MEGoody
Many people, not just Judge Moore, feel that the removal of the monument is not really about protecting constitutional rights of that whiny little biddy with her panties in a twist.

I agree. It's about making sure a government official does not use his position and facilities to promote a religious view. Those of us who feel that way would be against him if he were Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Unitarian, Jewish or atheist.

125 posted on 08/28/2003 2:52:30 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Registered
Smile.

We could use a little better humor on these threads.

126 posted on 08/28/2003 2:54:03 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"It is absolutely critical for society that people give due process its opportunity to work - and to then accept the results"

This has to be the most brazen, contemptuous, shut up slave and do what your told post I have ever read.

We gave due process time to work, it failed because of an over reaching dictatorial Supreme Court determined to socially engineer by wiping from the face of the earth, the history, heritage, and culture of the decendents of the American Revolution, and most especially the part that Christianity had to play in it's birth.

The Constitution prohibits the Supreme Court to exert any influence what so ever on religion. Not in the states, not in individual lives, and not in the schools. They are to remain mute on the issue. It is they who are being lawless. If anyone brings us to the brink of anarchy, it is they. It is they that bring us to the point of revolution with their brazen attacks on the fabric of the nation.

So stop telling people to allow themselves to be destroyed quietly lest they be guilty of something. It's like telling the victim to be quiet during his murder lest he disturb the neighbors or alert the police. Blame the guilty.

This document was left in the care of the people, to guard, fight for, defend, and insist that government stay inside it's boundries on the treat of dissolving said government and starting anew.

I think it's time for a vote to dissolve and begin anew with amendments to the constitution that bite those that undermine it and slip their bonds with harsh punishments.

We have no borders, we have no Constitutional protections, the Bill of Rights is violated in ever increasing ways, the congress doesn't function, nor the Senate, passing treaties and laws they have not even read. We have Presidents ruling via EO's, and an out of it's mind Supreme Court distorting the Constitution, tearing and ripping the fabric of society, and we are bound by destructive treaties not in our best interest, our future is hocked to infinity to fulfill the demands of a false duty and compassion to raise the boats of the third world while sinking ours, all the while we watch the unending invasion of illegals over running our schools, welfare, infrastructure, services and resources.

And you say we must accept it? Shame on ya.

127 posted on 08/28/2003 3:09:02 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: habs4ever
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128 posted on 08/28/2003 3:55:42 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("What if the Hokey Pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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To: jimt
The problem is his using his government position and facilities to make religious statements;

So? Are you saying his speech should be limited by its content.

no other religious statements may be made there, only his.

Nice try but you made that one up. I imagine people made them all the time. Just because you can put the Constitution in a courtoom doesn't mean the Communist Manifesto has to be there.

129 posted on 08/28/2003 5:00:47 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: WackyKat
It is obvious from everything Moore has said that he placed the monument for the explicit purpose of promoting (his version of) Christianity.

Impossible. The Ten also belong to the Jews and Muslims. It's not a Christian belief.

If Moore became a Hare Krishna, and put statues of Hindu gods in the courthouse, would that be okay with you?

Irrelevant. The question is: Should the State use force to remove it? The answer is No.

Moore/Falwell/Dobson/Robertson crowd all along, hasn't it?

Ahhh....a conspiracy. Let me get my tin foil hat.

130 posted on 08/28/2003 5:03:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MEGoody
And while we are about moving offensive things,I think we ought to float the Statue of Liberty right back to France.
131 posted on 08/28/2003 10:47:34 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Non-Sequitur
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132 posted on 08/29/2003 4:10:38 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (and yes, all that sobbing and prostration over Roy's Rock was pharisaic, as well as idolatrous)
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To: AppyPappy
Nice try but you made that one up.

Gee, could it possibly be you haven't read the same articles I have?

As you have just called me a liar, we'll end it right here.

133 posted on 08/29/2003 6:18:15 AM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt
Gee, could it possibly be you haven't read the same articles I have?

If it were true, you would have sourced it when I called you on it.

134 posted on 08/29/2003 6:20:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Thane_Banquo; foghornleghorn
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135 posted on 08/29/2003 6:43:52 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (and yes, all that sobbing and prostration over Roy's Rock was pharisaic as well as idolatrous)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Your government officials cannot use their official facilities to promote and advance their faith. Period.

What should we do with/to all these folks then?


Statement by the Deputy Press Secretary
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, the President signed into law: S. 2690, reaffirmation of "one Nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, and "In God we trust" as the National Motto.


To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of Allegiance. (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)

--S.2690--

S.2690

One Hundred Seventh Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE SECOND SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,

the twenty-third day of January, two thousand and two

An Act

To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of Allegiance.

SECTION 1. FINDINGS.

SEC. 2. ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

`Sec. 4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery

SEC. 3. REAFFIRMING THAT GOD REMAINS IN OUR MOTTO.

`Sec. 302. National motto

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.


House roll call vote
Senate roll call vote

136 posted on 08/29/2003 7:16:29 AM PDT by michigander
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To: tdadams; Protagoras
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137 posted on 08/29/2003 7:28:41 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (show me how many of the pompous pundits of the Evangelical world are willing to)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
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138 posted on 08/29/2003 7:35:10 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
Much of the material fits what you've been saying.
139 posted on 08/29/2003 7:37:47 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("decades of proudly voting RINO in order to crush the dreams of the little man")
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To: opus86
The Ten Commandments represent basic truths upon which our society was founded.

Huh?

140 posted on 08/29/2003 7:40:09 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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