Posted on 08/28/2003 9:43:12 AM PDT by bedolido
What makes a Super Bowl winner?
The cliche answer is great defenses, and the last three Super Bowl winners -- Tampa, New England and Baltimore -- support that logic. But before the 2000 season, the argument can be made that 12 of the previous 13 Super Bowl winners (the lone exception being the 1990 Giants) were offense-dominated teams.
So great offenses also can win. In fact, it says here great offenses will win this season when the Rams beat the Raiders in the Arena, er, Super Bowl.
What wins Super Bowls are transcendent players who redefine their careers at the ultimate moments. Think John Elway helicoptering to a first down in 1998. Think Joe Montana dissecting the Bengals on the game-winning drive in 1989.
What wins Super Bowls are coaches who give transcendent players advantages by putting them in positions to succeed. Think Jon Gruden and Bill Belichick the last two seasons or, if you prefer, Joe Gibbs in 1988.
Assuming Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk are healthy and can play as they did two seasons ago, no team has more game changers than the Rams. Some would say it is a big assumption that they will be healthy, but it may be a bigger assumption that two of the most gifted players in the game can lose their gifts so quickly.
This team also has the premier offensive mind in the game. Mike Martz is the coach whom offensive coaches at every level of football study in order to better prepare their teams.
Think Warner throwing beautiful spiral after beautiful spiral on February 1 in Houston, just as he did when he was the NFL's Most Valuable Player in 1999 and 2001. Think Faulk dancing through gaps, around linebackers and by defensive backs. Think Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt bursting out of their breaks, making effortless catches and then running away from everyone.
Think Martz making 11 offensive players look like 18, temporarily paralyzing a defense that can't possibly keep up with so many shifts, motions and personnel changes.
Think Rich Gannon throwing short, precise strikes, each one a dagger, to Jerry Rice, Jerry Porter, Tim Brown, Charlie Garner, Doug Jolley, Teyo Johnson and Tyrone Wheatley. But those short strikes don't hurt as much as Warner's long ones.
Think Rams 34, Raiders 28.
AFC picks
Division winners: Dolphins, Steelers, Titans and Raiders Wild-card teams: Colts and Bills AFC championship: Raiders over Dolphins
NFC picks
Division winners: Eagles, Packers, Bucs, Rams Wild-card teams: 49ers and Giants NFC championship: Rams over Packers
Super Bowl winner: Rams
Award picks Defensive player of the year: DE Jason Taylor, Dolphins Offensive rookie of the year: TE Dallas Clark, Colts Defensive rookie of the year: CB Terence Newman, Cowboys Comeback player of the year: QB Kurt Warner, Rams Coach of the year: Gregg Williams, Bills
Senior writer Dan Pompei covers the NFL for Sporting News. Email him at pompei@sportingnews.com.
Good point... instead of predicting the winners right away, let's start with the sure losers:
Everyone else, I think is in the hunt. I'll say the playoff teams are:
AFC: New England, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Tennessee (wild cards Miami and Indianapolis [sorry Cleveland])
NFC: Philadelphia, Green Bay, St. Louis, Tampa Bay (wild cards San Francisco and Chicago)
I'll take Pittsburgh over Philly for the Super Bowl.
After Haynes left, the Giants won the Super Bowl in 1986 with Elvis Patterson at left cornerback. He left a couple of years later, and was replaced by Mark Collins, who was almost identical to Haynes. He was a solid, athletic cornerback who could cut down a run to the outside as well as he could cover a wide receiver. Again, he didn't intercept many passes because teams didn't throw at him. If you look at the game-by-game stats of all the top NFC receivers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, you'll find that most of them had their worst games against the Giants. I remember a Giants-49ers game at that time in which Jerry Rice had two catches for something like 17 total yards.
Of who I've watched....Rod Woodson probably is the best overall defensive back . . .
Woodson was definitely a great one. He was a punt and kick returner for a while, too, wasn't he? My all-time favorite was Albert Lewis of the Chiefs. He was the first "big" Pro Bowl-caliber cornerback (6'2" and 210 pounds), and he quietly put together what should have been recognized as a first-ballot Hall of Fame career. He was also a phenomenal special teams player -- he blocked something like 8 or 9 punts during his career.
The Bears were a strong defensive team in 1984 and 1986, too. What made the 1985 different was that their veterans played one last great season before their age started to catch up to them. They also lost Buddy Ryan as their defensive coordinator after 1986, which was why they abandoned their famed "46 Defense" in favor of a standard 4-3.
Either San Diego or Miami would've beaten that great Bear team 7 out of ten times IMO...both were capable of holding the Bears O to 10 points while scoring two big play TDs themselves.
The Dolphins actually beat the Bears in the 1985 season (it was Chicago's only loss in a 15-1 season). The final score was something like 38-35, if I remember. The Bears weren't playing for much by that point, and their pass rush was ineffective against Marino's short drop and quick release.
The G--men were putting some serious Ds on the field during those years and their battles with the 9ers all time classics.
Ironically, back in the 80s the Giants' secondary was always their weakest area -- typically, they would have one Pro Bowl level player (Haynes, then Collins) and one other solid player (Terry Kinard, for example) at the same time. The other two (Perry Williams and Kenny Hill, for the most part) were solid tacklers who fit into their system well, but were marginal by themselves.
For a solid defensive backfield from that era, look no further than the Kansas City Chiefs. The late-80s backfield of cornerbacks Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross, strong safety Lloyd Burruss, and free safety Deron Cherry, was undoubtedly one of the best of all time. The Cleveland Browns of that era also had a great backfield -- Hanford Dixon and Frank Minnifield at the corners, and Felix Wright and Al Gross at safety.
Beats me. ...But the guy sure is a nut, ain't he? His actions, as usual, were way over the line.
East-
Miami with the Pats and Bills battling for second.
North-
Pittsburgh with the Browns a close second.
South-
Titans with the Colts in Second.
West-
Chiefs with Oakland and the Chargers battling for second. I know I'll hear it for this pick, but this is Vermiels third year there, and they improved their defense to go along with a very potent offense.
NFC East-
I think the Giants will edge the Eagles for the division this year. The Giants improved on defense while the Eagles lost Hugh Douglas. It will be close either way
North-
The Vikings are going to give the Packers all they can handle, but I still think the Packers win the division.
South-
The Bucs with the Falcons and Saints having another close battle for second.
West-
Seattle, which is good on both sides of the ball, will take the division over the Niners and Rams. The Niners are going through a coaching change, and the Rams defense isn't the best.
Playoffs.
AFC- Miami,Steelers, Titans, Chiefs with the Chargers and Pats in the two wild card slots.
The Steelers travel to Miami for the title game, with Miami winning. Disclaimer: I normally don't pick the usually late season fading Dolphins, but adding Junior Seau to an already good defensive unit that has been playing together for a while(ala Tampa Bay)puts them over the top IMO.
NFC- Giants, Packers, Bucs, Seahawks with the Falcons and Eagles as the two wild cards.
The Giants travel to Tampa for the title game, with Tampa winning.
Superbowl- Tampa beats Miami for back to back bowl wins.
And for all those who believe that my team, the Falcons, are doomed due to Vicks injury, think again.
First, the back up, Doug Johnson, who has been with the team 4 years and beat the Giants in the Meadowlands last year when Vick was hurt, is IMHO a better passing quaterback than Vick. He played college ball at Florida under Spurrier.
Second, other than the front lines on both sides of the ball, we're pretty stacked. On offense, we have a good running game with Dunn and 248 pound TJ Duckett. We added Peerless Price to go along with 6'7" Brian Finneran and speedster Martay Jenkins at receiver, along with rookies Terrance Edwards and Latarence Dunbar . Alge Crumpler and Brian Kowslowski are both good tight ends.
On defense, we added Corey Hall and Tyrone Williams to an already good secondary. Our linebacker core is solid with Keith Brooking at the top. Our only weakness is depth along the front line, which isn't as much a concern running the 3-4 and having a lot of depth at linebacker.
Stewart was a victim of terrible play-calling in Pittsburgh. See http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/20030806snoter0806p7.asp for an example.
At the beginning of the season, Mularkey was more interested in "spreading the ball around" than he was in trying to win. Than, Kordell went out and Maddox went in. At the same time, Mularkey opened-up his play-calling and forget about that spreading-the-ball-around nonsense.
Besides, Stewart is a huge improvement over Miller, who not only couldn't scramble, but got injured every other play and rarely threw the ball further than 4 yards.
That was last year. They will go no where as long as Moss is on their team. He doesn't care about winning, as referenced by his comment about playing when he wants to. Moreover, he is an ego-maniac to whom the word teamwork has no meaning.
If the defense clicks by the end of October, the Giants will roll in mid-January.
I'm happy to see his agent making such statements even if it turns out that they are not true. When all the civil suits are settled against the team and Romanowski, Williams will probably end up getting paid more for this than he ever would have earned as an NFL player.
Oh, and you haven't even seen me on a hockey thread, either. LOL.
If the defense clicks by the end of October, the Giants will roll in mid-January.
I agree, to a certain extent. The real concern with this team on defense is age and lack of depth at some positions. As long as they stay healthy, they should be OK. Their linebackers concern me, though. It's not that they are mediocre players, but since Jesse Armstead left, this team hasn't really had a dominant game-breaker at the linebacker position. All those years of L.T. and Armstead really spoiled Giants fans, I guess!
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