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The Truth About What's Happening In Iraq
boblonsberry.com ^ | 8/28/03 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/28/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by shortstop

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To: kjfine
ping
41 posted on 08/28/2003 7:47:13 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Are you sure it's the strategy?

Ok... Wow! What an incredibly lucky happenstance that couldn't possibly have been foreseen with even a cursory glance at Arab history or a basic understanding of their culture. Lucky us!

The administration talked about this as part of the overall benefit of the operation. They were more generalized in their predictions... presence in the middle east to keep order... staging ground for future necessary operations... but it was understood. If I understood it would be part of the strategy, I'm sure they understood it would be part of the benefit.

42 posted on 08/28/2003 7:50:52 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christianity, if false, is unimportant and, if true, of infinite importance. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: shortstop
outstanding!!! article.

many tx
43 posted on 08/28/2003 7:51:56 AM PDT by CGVet58 (Evil flourishes when good men stand by and do nothing)
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To: BillClintscum
Did you forget to take your Valium and Lithium today??

Take a chill pill man ... your screed is so absurd. 95% plus of the Iraqi people THANK US and THANK President George Bush for liberating Iraq.. Our "invasion" cost some lives of innocent Iraqi people ... total deaths is probably equal to what Saddam and his sons killed each week. Except now Saddam and his sons are gone ... and the Iraqi people don't have the same fear. Most Iraqi people are actually forgiving of the accidental deaths. They have a more realistic understanding of the situation than you demonstrate.

(Actually, their fear is that the U.S. people might cut and run if Howard Dean is elected and cowards and communist sympathizers become in charge of U.S. policy. But hopefully the American people are smart enough to recognize that we can't trust te Democrats with our national security.)

Mike

44 posted on 08/28/2003 7:53:31 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: Steve_Seattle
The state has warped your ability to believe in freedom.

They have effectively crushed your faith and your birthright.

Allow the marketplace to determine who can bring what on to each aircraft. Would you choose to purchase a ticket from an airline that let terrorists carry guns onto airplanes?

Of course not, and yet you tolerate a government that allows terrorists into the country and access to disarmed killing zones.

Allow consumers to pay a premium to fly on a plane with an armed marshall. Or at least go back to the 70s when people carried what they want onto airplanes.

Clearly, disarming airline passengers (and schools for that matter) has been a disaster.
45 posted on 08/28/2003 7:57:33 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: pgyanke
President Bush has planted a terrorist lightning rod (or bug lamp, if you like) in Iraq and it's attracting terrorists from across the globe. While the left continues to say that the war in Iraq is distracting from our efforts in the war on terror, the reality is the war in Iraq has completely distracted the terrorists from their war on us.

You got it right, pgy! What a great analogy. My little bro is in Iraq trying to secure Iraqis the freedom to disagree with their government. The terrorists are flocking to Iraq to prevent it because they know that once freedom is gained, the Iraqis won't want to give it up to another despot. Our VERY BRAVE soldiers do not need to have their efforts denegrated by those unable -- or unwilling -- to see that truth. They are in Iraq for the fight, and thank God Pres. Bush didn't tie one hand behind their backs while commanding them to win as previous war administrations have done.

46 posted on 08/28/2003 7:59:19 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: pgyanke
That is why I call you a Vichycon.

Always surrendering and rationalizing away a completely failed and discredited state that cannot protect you.

So while Iraq was not a terrorist haven before the war, it is now, and that's a good thing?

Sheep indeed.
47 posted on 08/28/2003 7:59:40 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: Jim Noble
Who do you think can provide the vision, and leadership-in your opinion?
49 posted on 08/28/2003 8:00:42 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: BigWaveBetty
You are the one who believes in the absurd, that terrorists attack US solidiers in Iraq protects you, and then discounting traditional theories on defense.


Shouldn't you be at DU or something?
50 posted on 08/28/2003 8:01:34 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: BlueLancer
Cripes, what an infestation!
51 posted on 08/28/2003 8:02:08 AM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: dighton
Criminy! I just saw that too.
52 posted on 08/28/2003 8:03:21 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jim_censored_Me
You behaved as a charlatan and there is no reason to think your goal was to add to debate, but you knew that when you posted a completely random thought on this thread.
53 posted on 08/28/2003 8:03:22 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: Jim_censored_Me
Here we go. I believe people have said this before on many threads here, but why not one more time........maybe one BILLION and ONE times will be enough.........

This isn't a streetcorner. This isn't your living room. This isn't a town hall meeting. This is a privately run website, and, just like any other privately owned "thing", the owner has the right to restrict speech in HIS establishment.

Get it now?

My guess: Probably not.
54 posted on 08/28/2003 8:03:26 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: shortstop
Bump,Bump,Bump,
55 posted on 08/28/2003 8:04:46 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Jim_censored_Me; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; 4mycountry
Jim, can't handle a little honest debate? Why the censorship? Stop acting like a Nazi and let the people speak. Most of us are adults and can handle the debate. You evidently are not.

Ahem!

56 posted on 08/28/2003 8:05:54 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Too late! He's ouuutttta heah!
57 posted on 08/28/2003 8:06:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: JohnGalt
A well armed citizenry and a decentralized government, you know traditional conservativism.

How would a handgun protect the targets in the WTC? COnservatism espouses limited government. One priority of this government is to protect citizens when they are simply unable to protect themselves, as in the WTC attacks and other terrorist attacks.

It is better to have an army trained to do this than unsuspecting citizens doing this.

59 posted on 08/28/2003 8:08:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Jim_censored_Me
That has nothing to do with this thread. Your goal was to be shocking, and my guess is you knew what would happen. If your point had value and you wish to contribute to debate appeal to the people in terms that they understand, or simply don't bother move on, go somewhere else.

In turn, you discredit the point of view by uttering a meaningless stream of thought. For all I know right now, you posted to make my point of view look ridiculous.
60 posted on 08/28/2003 8:09:38 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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