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The Truth About What's Happening In Iraq
boblonsberry.com ^ | 8/28/03 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/28/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by shortstop

The war in Iraq isn’t being lost in Baghdad. It’s being lost in America.

In Iraq, it’s going quite well. In America, we’re too stupid to realize that.

So let me explain.

These idiots on the news who count each fatality from the announced end of major fighting are doing more to hurt the cause than all the suicide bombers in Baghdad. One uses explosives and the other uses lies.

The kind of lies that are told by diversion and distortion.

The simple fact is that of course we have sustained more casualties since the actual battle stopped. On the battlefield, they were on our turf. In Baghdad, we are on their turf.

We are a conventional military. Lots of tanks and troops and nobody can stand up to us. Rolling over the Iraqi military, we were in our element.

But in the chicken-crap terrorist world of shoot and run, the jihad boys are in their element.

When we were in a position of advantage our casualties were lower than they are when we are in a position of disadvantage.

So, naturally, we continue to take casualties.

Does that mean we’re losing?

Only if you need a blow dryer and a TelePrompTer to do your job.

I would point out that during the conquest of Iraq, we took over a nation, advanced hundreds of miles into enemy territory, toppled a military numbering in the hundreds of thousands, overthrew a government, took control of a good chunk of the world’s oil supply and put vast amounts of our power on the ground in somebody else’s country.

On the other hand, in their guerilla war, the jihad boys have accomplished not a freaking thing.

We still own the nation, we still own the oil, we’re still in charge, they’re still out of power, we still operate freely a long way from home.

They’re like a dog chasing a car. Lots of noise, plenty of bravado, not a damn bit of difference.

So the daily television score of who died when means nothing, except as a needless insult to the families of brave Americans 100 times more noble than the pretty boys on TV.

Here’s another lie: There is no link between Iraq and terrorism.

In fact, the war with Iraq is one of our most important tools in protecting America from terrorists.

Here’s how: Before we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism was American civilians in the United States. Since we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism has been American servicemen in Iraq.

Good.

More than good. Wonderful.

Thousands of these jihad boys, all coked up on their gutter religion, have streamed into Iraq to be martyrs against the infidels.

Good. The more the merrier.

On September 11 they attacked us where we were weak. Now we’ve tricked them into attacking us where we are strong.

The idiots.

Think about it. Their objective was to attack women and children, businesspeople and flight attendants, in our homeland.

So we changed the venue.

We started breaking the furniture in their neighborhood.

Now all the little Osamas are sneaking into Iraq to take on G.I. Joe.

You pick: Do you want them attacking unarmed citizens in America, or trained and equipped soldiers in Iraq?

Personally, I like our odds now a lot better.

Personally, I think it’s worthwhile and successful. In every battle there are casualties, even in a battle like this. That is to be accepted and understood.

Two facts that escape the self-appointed gods of the media.

Many have died and more will do the same. But each will have sacrificed to directly protect the United States of America and its people. There is a direct link between Iraq and terrorism against America.

The link: As long as we tie the savages up in Iraq, they won’t be coming after our families back home.

Score that a win.

And anybody who says different doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground.


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To: BigWaveBetty
A well armed citizenry and a decentralized government, you know traditional conservativism.

More Todd Beamers
Fewer Ivy Leaguers
21 posted on 08/28/2003 7:10:25 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: netmilsmom
You seem awfully willing to put someone else's kid in harms way in an effort to abdicate your responsibility to protect your liberties and the liberties of your child.

I think none other than General MacArthur would tell you not to worry:

The powers in charge keep us in a perpetual state of fear keep us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.
- General Douglas MacArthur
"A Soldier Speaks: Public Papers and Speeches of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur," (1965); Nation, August 17, 1957
22 posted on 08/28/2003 7:11:50 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: JohnGalt
Uh yeah, all those folks in the WTC would have been able to thwart those bastards had they had guns.

John you are a maroon.

23 posted on 08/28/2003 7:12:32 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (It was only George Bush who liberated us, without him it wouldn't have happened. ~Nadia Mohammed)
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To: BillClintscum
That, quite frankly, is one of the more idiotic posts I have seen for some time on FR. Bush went after Saddam not because of bin Laden, but because of Saddam's 12-year noncompliance with cease-fire agreements, his support of terrorism and the destabilization his regime represented in the Middle East.
24 posted on 08/28/2003 7:14:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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To: BillClintscum; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; Chancellor Palpatine; ...

VARMINT CONG ALERT!!!
Ragheadicus Apologetica Hibernatia Trollium subspecies
25 posted on 08/28/2003 7:14:40 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: BillClintscum
Give us the proof that Bush Is a murderer plain and simple (your tagline) by our troops where tens of thousands of innocents are killed. Baghdad Bob, is that you?
27 posted on 08/28/2003 7:19:47 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: BigWaveBetty
I didn't take you for a conservative anyway so your comments merely strength my resolve.

Hint: its the owners of the WTC who were prevented by the federalis from having proper defense tools, be it anti-aircraft missiles or guns.

It was the state that convinced its people to give up a personal responsibility, protection of the self, that infected the culture which caused good Americans to hope it 'was just a hijacking' as they were led like sheeps to the slaughter.

Go on apologizing for the state and believing its a good thing its someone else's kid taking a bullet in Iraq.

Sheep.
28 posted on 08/28/2003 7:20:21 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: BillClintscum
You know, I started to correct your analogy to reflect reality. I think I have a bit of a reputation for speaking my mind and not letting an erroneous point go unchallenged. I can be quite tenacious and verbose in making my case.

In the case of your post above, I found it to be such an ignorant rant that it wasn't deserving of the effort. Instead, I'll let you do the legwork. Do a search for the word "Iraq" on FR and read some articles. You are intellectually blind to the facts.
29 posted on 08/28/2003 7:23:24 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christianity, if false, is unimportant and, if true, of infinite importance. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: BillClintscum
Oh puleese! Bush made the case that Iraq and Bin laden had a connection and if we didnt invade, Iraq might do something really bad to us.

The two were not connected by Bush. Bush's case for taking out Saddam was based on what I have stated, along with Saddam's long history of both using and manufacturing WMDs.

But, since you're so certain that Bush connected Saddam to bin Laden and that alone justified the war, please provide documentation for that viewpoint.

31 posted on 08/28/2003 7:29:48 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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To: BillClintscum
I do believe the lobotomy was a sucess, but do you still mess your pants?
32 posted on 08/28/2003 7:30:15 AM PDT by TexasTransplant
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To: JohnGalt
If the WTC had anti-aircraft missiles or guns and had been able to actually shoot those two planes down, what would have happened? Hint: People still would have died. Our economy still would have been hurt.

Too bad you weren't on one of the two WTC missiles so you could have convinced all your fellow passengers that what was happening was actually a terrorist attack.

Sheep dip.

33 posted on 08/28/2003 7:33:40 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (It was only George Bush who liberated us, without him it wouldn't have happened. ~Nadia Mohammed)
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To: shortstop
The truth about what's happening in Iraq is:

American soldiers are getting killed

In a good cause

That is well worth the price

EXCEPT

The American people are not prepared to pay the price

BECAUSE

The people need to be led in war to accept its sacrifices

And war leadership has been in short supply

BECAUSE

Not all politicians-in fact almost none-are gifted war leaders.

Our current deficiency in war leadership has been, up to now, non-critical

BUT

Given the execrable lack of virtue or even common morality among the RATs

The need for exemplary war leadership is about to skyrocket

AND

If President Bush cannot deliver, he is history.

34 posted on 08/28/2003 7:37:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: JohnGalt
Give it up, John. We have a right to be secure in our own homes and to defend them ourselves, yes. However, when it comes to the defense of the nation, that is one of the limited, legitimate roles for our national government.

President Bush has planted a terrorist lightning rod (or bug lamp, if you like) in Iraq and it's attracting terrorists from across the globe. While the left continues to say that the war in Iraq is distracting from our efforts in the war on terror, the reality is the war in Iraq has completely distracted the terrorists from their war on us.

As the author stated above, it's the role of the military to protect us as a nation. They don't do that in garrison, they do that in combat. Rather than waiting for the terrorists to strike here where we have a free society with a soft underbelly, we've forced them to focus their efforts on the tip of the spear.

It is a strategically brilliant strategy.
35 posted on 08/28/2003 7:37:52 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christianity, if false, is unimportant and, if true, of infinite importance. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: shortstop
Lonsberry bump for truth!
36 posted on 08/28/2003 7:39:13 AM PDT by paws_and_whiskers
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To: pgyanke
You drove that nail with one incredibly accurate swing of the hammer. (Bugzapper, I love it)
37 posted on 08/28/2003 7:41:20 AM PDT by TexasTransplant
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To: JohnGalt
A well-armed citizenry and decentralized government would have stopped 9/11? So we allow people - including terrorists - to bring guns into planes, that's the solution?
38 posted on 08/28/2003 7:42:03 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: BlueLancer; general_re; Poohbah; L,TOWM
Cucaracha rockwelli-raimondi.

More than one, as a matter of fact.

39 posted on 08/28/2003 7:42:58 AM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: pgyanke
"It's a strategically brilliant strategy."

Are you sure it's the strategy? I'm not at all convinced that our military - or Bush - is glad that those terrorists are infiltrating Iraq - it is slowing down the recovery and giving fuel to the naysayers.
40 posted on 08/28/2003 7:44:36 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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