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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: iowamomforfreedom

Dear Governor Bush:                    October 08, 2003

Thank you for your timely reply by/through/from Lauren O'Connor, who represents her/himself as "Aide to Governor Bush".

I must point out the serious fact that The Governor does not attack the alleged oral will/advance/HEARSAY/directives that the found to be Clear and Convincing Evidence of her *wishes*  as he (or whomever wrote the filing) does not get the  precedent [merchants agenda item] to make oral [lies] about life or death the deciding bar over a persons fate.  It removes all bars to effecting another's death by "Legal Civil Murder".

These FS876.22 --.31 "subversive" Merchants of Death: (sic) Right To Die Movement and accomplices have been using Florida to create a climate of indiscriminate discriminate fleecing and TAKING of human lives at least since Attorney Felos and company's attack on our constitution with the 1989 Estelle Browning case here.

Then they managed to make/influence significant changes to legislation in 1991 and again in 1998 and 1999 to sneak into law their agenda of constitutionally protected Right to Die.

There is no room for both Right To Life  and a so called right to die.  These merchants idea of a right to die is one that includes the right of others to "Legally Civilly Murder"  YOU or anyone else that comes up on their radar to be given death.  LIFE is inalienable, and cannot be given or taken away.

Felos and company have been having difficulty with the Clear and Convincing aspect of the Will and Advance Directives arguments in courts when they try to effect death of people, take all their assets, all under the banner of it was their wishes.  Death advocate and hired expert Dr. Ronald Cranford testified to these annoyances and the published changes in tactics to *allow* more deaths by effecting the non-persons *wishes* (death contracts) to be dead than alive.

A persons *wish to die* is the same as a suicide note if it is in writing.  But that has not been challenged and argued yet either.  And if this AD/Will/DPOA suicide note has directions that will CAUSE the persons death and require some kind of assistance to effect, then that is Assisted Suicide.

So, in order to grease the skids to EZ making other people dead, the Subversive merchants of death have in their cross-hairs the loophole of oral advance directives.   If they can set the precedent which lowers the bar from written *suicide* advance directive --> to the *hearsay* "they said they did not want to live like THAT and I will *assist* them", whatever THAT may happen to be at the time.

It's simple Mr. Governor.

There is no such thing as Clear and Convincing HEARSAY oral statements of one person, orally represented by another, ESPECIALLY, when the principal is unable to speak or communicate effectively (without rehab) at the time these alleged oral LIES are brought forward.  How convenient!

What WE THE PEOPLE have here, is not clear and convincing evidence that these oral (lies) took place such as to kill that person by them, but exhibits REASONABLE DOUBT that these after-the-fact HEARSAY alleged oral statements of a young woman who WAS 23 year old at the time she is purported to have made them.

I point out as well that the ONLY people who say Terri Schiavo allegedly made these now death hinging statements are:
     Michael Schiavo -- husband
     Joan Schiavo       -- sister-in-law
     Scott Schiavo      -- brother
It should be noted that Michael's own mother disagreed with his alleges, and was troubled by his actions.  Her death was never investigated.  

A Bucks County, Pennsylvania newspaper on July 2, 1997, reported Michael's mother's death, "survived by Michael and fiancee' Jodi" Centonze.   There's no mention of his WIFE Terri.  Was his mother's death hastened too?  Did Michael do the same in Pennsylvania as he is doing here?  Was civil murder committed their as well?

FACTS:
1   Marriage rocky, divorce being considered by Terri per her girlfriend, colleagues and brother.
2   Still uninvestigated cause of Terri's injury of 1990.  What happened?
3   Made a research project out of her in 1991 with experimental electrodes (still in head and possibly injuring her now) without obtaining extraordinary authority as require by FS744.3725 to effect Fs744.3215(4).
4   Stopped rehab in July 1991 at Mediplex Bradenton when Terri started speaking more and clearer words opting for long term palliative care, against the diagnosis and suggested treatment of her doctors.
5   Filed $20M malpractice suit in late 1991
6   Ended Terri's major medical insurance by making agreement for approx. 15cent on the dollar lump sum payout of the policy without prior permission or review of the court.
7   Made video of how much he cared, loved and valued his marriage vows, and all that he did for Terri and how much money it would take to care and rehab his wife, to win over the JURY.
8   Received JURY award Jan 1993 that resulted in a net guardianship fund balance of approx. $775K which remained until Nov 1998 when attorney Felos and others started hitting it hard.
9   About 3 months later in 1993 Michael refused to treat a life threatening infection; the facility treated.
He tried again several months later as was taken to court in which he testified he knew that she would die if not treated and said that he guessed because of some law he would be able to "do it" that way.

This is PERJURY .   This is INSURANCE FRAUD.   This admitted under oath and by deposition ATTEMPTED MURDER, even then as is still now.

10  Advance directives and orders from Michael in the direction of death to his wife started appearing in medical charts and verbally to facility staff.  [FS765.1115(2) False Advance Directives 2nd Degree Felony]
11  03-05-97 -- alleged attorney Felos "initial conference with client" (who) as itemized in 4/3/00 fee petition.
12  04-14-97 -- Petition to hire attorney Felos
13  05-14-97 -- Felos officially hired by Order.
14  07-02-97 -- Pennsylvania Obituary lists survivors as Michael and fiancee Jodi.  No mention of Terri, his wife.
15  05-11-98 -- Petition to Discontinue Artificial Life Support.
16  same date nor after -- Curiously no Petition to Establish the alleged "Oral Advance Directives"
17  05-11-98 to present -- lots of evidenced situations of exerting or claiming of existence of advance directives now that feels power behind his filing of petition to obtain "state-assisted CIVIL death contract".
18  From July 1991, Terri Schiavo has not received any organized and continuous rehabilitation program as evidenced in the Guardian Plans filed in Probate.
19  Question 4D of the Guardian Plan which asks, paraphrased,  'what will be done to INCREASE the capacity of the ward in the next 12 months' -- Michael hand writes "my wife is in a PVS".
20  The question in the Guardian Plan, 'what has been done in the last 12 months to increase the capacity of the ward' -- Michael writes 'my wife is PVS'.

FS744.3215(1)(c.) says the ward has the retained right "to be restored to capacity at the earliest possible time."

Even though he really or fraudulently represents this PVS state (must be unconscious by law definition) in the guardian plan, the guardian (Michael) MUST make plans that work to increase capacity and has to give an account of what of the plan was actual performed and give report of successes/failures to then modify the plan for next 12 months to net some INCREASES in Terri's capacity.

ALL of the above I have written is an obvious and telling picture of a PREMEDITATED  "Guardian's Plan" to deny the ward (period) and effect his plan to keep Terri from ever telling who was in the apartment and what happened to her and "to move on with MY life" with my now revealed ex-girlfriend (when) and fiancee-with-my-two-kids Jodi Centonze of at least 9 years while screaming into the TV cameras when asked about his FS798 Open Adultery -- Michael leans forward, face directly in the camera and says "IT's my baby, and I'm proud of IT".  This was during the October 2002 "Evidentiary" trial.  Baby Olivia was born September 2002.

Michael appears to have been on, and is still on,  a campaign to END his *wife's* life ever since that suspiciously circumstanced early morning in their apartment in January of 1990.

Conspiracy to commit murder has been in play since at least 3 months after to malpractice jury award in January 1993.  The pattern that stands out when a thorough chronology is developed from the facts over the entire 13.7 years bears this out.

Executive Order.  Grand Jury.  Terri's State-Assisted "Legal Civil Murder".   What is it going to take to STOP the heinous CRIMES against Terri, her parents, the people of Florida and now the nation, being perpetrated by Michael, his cult of attorneys, health "care" professionals and facilities, with the help of this FS876.22 -- .31 Subversive merchants of death movement (organization) and members (merchants)?

I surely hope you all up there in the capitol are getting this -- because the PUBLIC sure is!

Jeb, we are getting hundreds of thousands more emails than you are, from all over this state, the nation AND the world.  If ever their was a perilous but propitious time in OUR  lives to make good for all of humanity -- THAT TIME IS NOW.

GOD and Thomas Jefferson are watching!

Sincerely;  legally, morally and righteously I remain,

David Kirkland
St. Petersburg, FL
(in the book)

Jeb. Can we meet, as was suggested by your office in the past?  Even privately, with the Schindler's, siblings, and core Terri supporter group?  We know the gears and gates that must be overcome.  While we all work to fix the damage caused to our constitution and laws, YOU MUST afford Terri and all others in the same boat in this state at present with full protection and exercise of their civil and retained rights and liberties, together with their constitutional rights and freedoms, as vulnerable(FS415), disabled (ADAetc), victimized (FS825,775,798,400) and elderly persons.

Remember these are persons with personhood and not "house plants" who must meet some litmus test as to "whether or not they can bring a spoon to their own mouths" as was argued Attorney Felos in the August 2001 2nd DCA hearing.  He was arguing not for Terri Schiavo but for his Merchants of Death Movement.

Felos has audio tapes and books published and for sale that profess and promote "Abundant Prosperity".    Yeah,   HIS of YOURS!
Felos by filed and verified spreadsheet has received now over $500,000 of Terri's "medical malpractice rehabilitation funds" in direct CONFLICT with FS744.446(4) which intends that funds dedicated be used just for the original purpose. 

THIS IS FS825 Exploitation of Terri's money!  And her.

Due to the obvious conflict of interest between Michael the husband and Michael the guardian, as Guardianship Law dictates but is being ignored by Judge Greer, who never took the oath and does not have to support the constitutional law, only HIS law of the case:
The petition to discontinue should have never been accepted, and/or a permanent Guardian Ad Litem or successor guardian should have been appointed on June 18, 1998, due to conflict and no will or advance directives.  Non on record.  They had to create them.  So, that's what Judge Greer did, all in the same NON JURY trial.  Created "reasonable doubt" advance directives to pave the way for creation of the FINAL right to die constitutional legislation.

In any case of a life OR death decision being made for and about another person to be made by court order, playing God, if not God's decision, no reason for it not to be, then at the very least, the decision should be made by the people, as in plural -- A JURY of TERRI's peers in open court.   This must be a law that is created or one now that needs changed immediately.

The precedent is:  Anyone will be able to make an oral statement that CAUSES the death of another person, with what will become by this case, the EZ application and approval stamping by the Probate Court or maybe just Clerk's to effect and cause someone "Legal Civil Murder".   Since all actions remain in the "Civil" courts their will be no "Criminal" court actions necessary.

This could also result in more "criminal" murders being pleaded by the defendant as "my victim is not a victim because they had a Death Wish and were a burden and hindrance to MY best wishes of getting them out of the way so that I could enhance MY Abundant Prosperity.

What a sic path to self destruction and extinction we are headed if as you stated in your Amicus as reason to take the torch, the failure of the judiciary branch to effect a proper outcome for firstly Terri Schiavo and secondly for SOCIETY.  Please do not break your first campaign promise to be THE "Champion of the Disabled".
 

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:53 PM
To: peterk@highway2health.net
Subject: State Ordered or Public Assisted Dehydration/Starvation intentional death.
 

Dear Governor Bush:                                                 October 07, 2003

Thank you for reassuring the public, whom you hold in your hands, that you are on the job protecting every citizens constitutional and statutory rights regarding hastened and CAUSED deaths of our citizens who have come to find themselves vulnerable to these merchants of death, who wear many faces, hats and clothes.

Although you did not attack the LACK of clear and convincing evidence of Terri's "wishes" you have taken step 1 to reversing the damage already done to our constitution by these seekers of death for others, but NOT themselves. Hmmm.

Step two is to take an even wider angled view of the evil subversives' strategy and in play plan, as we have, now that you have shown your desire to wield the armor for which you took oath to wear.   You're sworn to protect People, your masses, have been waiting for you to take the point of the spear as we have become well informed you are to take. 

We are being informed and becoming informed of the overwhelming number of laws, freedoms, civil rights, civil liberties and constitutional rights that have been and are now being violated, as in major and multiple count crimes for each and every merchant of death and coconspirator.

Michael Schiavo and conspirators use of documented false advance directives to further this obviously intended and premeditated taking of a persons life IS a 2nd Degree Felony Crime pursuant to FS765.1115 and punishable by 15 years in PRISON and double pecuniary recovery to Terri Schiavo, the VICTIM -- at the very least!

Every person who has knowingly NOT REPORTED according to FS415.1034 and can be linked as a coconspirator in facilitating this intentional death attempt should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

The DCF should be brought to bear for the decision of Regional Attorney Frank Nagatani's statement that DCF would not get involved as long as the case is in court.   Why was MY 3 hour phone complaint to DCF hotline in November 2001 for abuses, neglect and criminal exploitation of Terri Schiavo, followed by a 60 day interactive APS investigation with investigator Mitch Turner, including my supplying of a 5 inch ring binder crammed with 100s of pages of supportive public documents and several supplementals at request of investigator, that resulted in a report being filed and been recognized in open court by Judge Greer to exist, stamped UNFOUNDED with RECOMMENDATIONS.   In a phone conversation with me, two days after the investigation report was filed with his superiors, Mitch Turner said to me in response to my disbelief, "I know David.  I have said too much now.  Keep up the fight, David."

DCF filed a Motion to Quash any testimony by subpoenaed investigator Mitch Turner.  In a guardianship hearing, in which testimony was sought of the investigator regarding proceedings questioning the guardians "plan of care" to restore Terri's capacity per statute FS744.3215(c.), always known to be death, based on investigator Turner's findings, a tactical manuever by Guardianship Attorney Deborah Bushnell dodged all by pulling the late and disapproved guardian plan, thus putting guardian in contempt but never charged, and resulted in no ruling on the still outstanding Motion to Quash.  To this day there have been 7 extensions for filing of the 2001 guardian plan [no plan] approved by Judge Greer.

After an audience with then Chairwoman of the DCF Oversight Commission, Legislator Sandra Murman, in which she immediately saw the crimes and expressed that she would look deep into why my massively supported complaint was marked "unfounded" BUT was also marked 'with recommendations'.   How can there be nothing here and at the same time BE acknowledge by IT's needing attention in the form of a list of ACTION items?  Cover up!

I was told 2 weeks after that meeting that Murman and staff would not be able to talk about anything with me, or to give progress reports, if such a thing even existed, due to a confidentiality agreement that Legislator Murman was asked to sign related to my inquiry.  More cover-up.

Please bring full pressure on the DCF to "do their jobs and constitutionally sworn duties" to insure that EVERY aspect of the Legislatures intention as in Florida Statute Title XXX Social Welfare, Chapter 415 Adult Protective Services, s.415.101 paragraphs (1) and (2) which make by CLEAR and CONVINCING language the intent and mission by all means of the Adult Protective Services Act.

Incidentally, Frank Nagatani, DCF Regional Attorney is listed in Judge Greer's 1998 campaign expenditures as a recipient of a campaign contribution partial refund but is not listed anywhere in the counties and states election records or reports by his campaign as being a contributor.

Also, Judge Greer did not qualify to be on the 1998 ballot because he did not "qualify" in the statutorily prescribed 5 day period.  Nor did he file his FS876.05 Oath to the laws and constitution according to it's nonexistence according to the records of where it should have been filed.  Pursuant to FS876.05 (2) he has never qualified to receive compensation by his employer.  Further, the county is required on behalf of the People to judicially seek the recovery of all the statutorially prohibited compensation he has already mistakenly, even criminally, received.

The county will be PUBLICLY encouraged to seek recovery of unauthorized wages that this unauthorized, unqualified, and tresspassing Judge has been receiving and actions to facilitate his immediate resignation and delisting him from the payroll records and his disqualification from and prohibition from non-entitled employment related benefits resulting from his unauthorized employment.  This would figure to be upwards of $600,000 based on reverse calculation of the 4 percent campaign fee he paid of the expected wages of the elected positon sought.  

It's obvious that Judge Greer is but one of the many players in a game that has jeopardized and harmed the life of one of this state's citizens and should be stripped of ever being a Judge, Attorney or any other position of Public Trust -- as the law provides the Governor the authority to do.  Not just a level 4 verbal and public reprimanded.

As stated earlier, Step two is to take an even wider angled view of the evil subversives' strategy and in play plan, as we have, now that you have shown your desire to wield the armor for which you took oath to wear.   You're sworn to protect People, your masses, have been waiting for you to take the point of the spear as we have become well informed you are to take.

You can do this by:
1) Taking judicial action,

as is your sworn duty in Article IV Executive, Section 1. Governor,
"(b) The
governor may initiate judicial proceedings in the name of the state
against any executive or administrative state, county or municipal officer
to enforce compliance with any duty or restrain any unauthorized act."


by:
A)  Filing with the Supreme Court and or the Legislature a Motion for a STAY on all currently in play judicial proceedings having anything to do with the discontinuance of Life or having a resulting expectation of death.    The people involved should by executive order maybe, be ordered to deliver and insure ALL rights and retained rights of those involved are afforded.

B)  Filing a Motion in the appropriate venue to effect a Moratorium on the  entire judicial branches ability to receive and open a case in which the petitioning of the discontinuance of life support or facilitation of intentional dehydration/starvation is desired by anyone.

C)  Establish a commission that is at least 2/3 comprised of the public and includes members of the Terri Schiavo supporters main group to have fact finding powers and give a report to the Governor and Legislature on  the extent of the merchants of death's subversive methods as is unlawful pursuant to FS 876.22 through FS 876.31.   To give recommendation of the legislation needed to repair, fix and provide future constitutional protection of every citizens Right To Life.   The President and the Popes  Culture of Life Initiative in essence.

D)  Initiate a criminal investigation into what happened to Terri Schiavo and bring charges and full prosecution of all the principal perpetrators and accomplices as a societal message to all those who are approached or succumb to the unlawful merchants of death.  Any investigation should encompass the entire history of events from before her injury incident in 1990 through the present which continues daily as THE atrocity of humanity.  Many involved in the fight to do what the state is required to do, protect its people from abuse, neglect and exploitation -- the "legal civil murder" as will become the precedent -- have uncovered 1000s of evidentiary details that will be of great assistance to fixing the damage and repairing with greater shielding, the Right To Life, by writing out the methods that have become the Death Merchants tools and pathways to TAKING the Lives and Assets of this State's vulnerable.

2)  Taking Legislative initiative,
based on your own knowledge, findings and the recommendations of the
Terri Act Commission to walk from first reading to enactment into law by
your signing, all changes to law, practice and procedure, administrative
code, regulations, et al, that become necessary to save our state from
self extinction. 

It takes 9 months and 1 day to effect life.  It takes but one second to
end or take life.  At this rate of CAUSED death, we will be extinct in
fewer than more years.

3)  Rally behind and take the lead on the Terri Supporters
amendment initiative for "The Inalienable Rights Act"
amendment on the next presidential and state elections ballot.
  

This amendment is the backbone that the current constitution needs to prohibit as
criminal activity all efforts to CAUSE death in the CIVIL arena.


Contact me directly or through arranged audience via Robert Schindler, Terri's father.

Sincerely and with duty,

David Kirkland
St. Petersburg, Florida
(in the book)
 


PROPOSED FLORIDA and U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL  AMENDMENT   No. _____
"The Inalienable Rights Act"
 


Section One -- "An  Inalienable Right  is particularly described as "that  which  cannot  be   given  or   taken  away."

Section Two -- "Sustenance is particularly defined as food or nutrition and received within a person by any means of delivery.  Hydration is particularly defined as water and or life permitting fluids received within a person by any means of delivery.  Life Permitting Breathable Air is particularly defined as Air that permits life and does not harm it and received by way of the persons own breathing and can only be augmented by external augmentation such that this augmentation does not cause certain death."

Section Three -- "Whereas the founders of this country in creating the United States Constitution, possessed the foresight to see that in order for there to be any other rights for its people, for there to be the right to self determination, that they should declare in perpetuity, for all time, that there are three basic rights to which all of this country's citizens shall possess and for which this country shall always protect, those being the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.   The founding fathers, having the forethought to know that there would always be forces that will try to abridge, give or take away any one or all of these rights, further declared that these three rights, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are Inalienable Rights."

Section Four --  "In order to protect that which is the most important of the three inalienable rights, LIFE, for which without Life there can be no Liberty and earthly Happiness, We The People,  in order for LIFE to be more fully protected, herein declare that Sustenance (food, nutrition) , Hydration (water, fluids) and Life Permitting Breathable Air shall forever and always be part in part to LIFE and considered to be an inalienable part to all of our peoples RIGHT TO LIFE."

Section Five -- "The executive, judicial and legislative branches of these United States shall ensure the protection of these inalienable rights of its citizens by all means such that no executive orders, judicial orders, or congressional legislation shall be created to allow the certain death of any person by dehydration, starvation, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing through the denial, withdrawal, withholding, or over-providing of sustenance, hydration and life permitting breathable air."

Section Six -- "The executive, judicial, and legislative branches of every state shall ensure the protection of these inalienable rights of its citizens by all means such that no State shall have the right to create executive orders, judicial orders, or legislation to allow the certain death of any person by dehydration, starvation, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing through the denial, withdrawal, withholding, or over-providing of sustenance, hydration and life permitting breathable air."

Section Seven -- "The judicial branch of every state shall provide through its criminal and civil courts the means to prosecute any person, persons or entity by fines and imprisonment of not less than 30 years imprisonment and pecuniary recovery of the loss to the victims in cases of the attempted death of any person by dehydration, starvation, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing through the denial, withdrawal, withholding, or over-providing of sustenance, hydration and life permitting breathable air."

Section Eight -- "At the time of enactment of this Amendment, all governmental entities within these United States having legislation that permits the attempted death or death of any person by dehydration, starvation, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing through the denial, withdrawal, withholding, or over-providing of sustenance, hydration and life permitting breathable air shall be required to remove any and all such laws from there statutes and state constitutions.  They shall further be required to remove all policies, procedures, rules and regulations that are rendered illegal and unconstitutional by the enactment of this Amendment."

Section Nine -- "The death of any person by dehydration, starvation, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing through the denial, withdrawal, withholding, or over-providing of sustenance, hydration and life permitting breathable air at the hands of another person, persons or entity is considered a capital crime and punishable by no less than life imprisonment, a fine and pecuniary recovery." 

Section Ten -- "The enactment of this Amendment hereby constitutes its incorporation into the entire Constitution of these United States of America.


Presented by:  Mail your comments, address, e-mail address to the following for information on how you can make a difference, or to further this amendment initiative, to:

 

FOTABA-2002(c) "Friends of Terri For A Better America"
P.O. Box 1788
Pinellas Park, Florida 33780-1788

5,381 posted on 10/09/2003 6:25:00 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: pc93
WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A KILLER?

Governor of Florida Jeb Bush's Amicus Curiae (Friend of the Court) wasn't convincing enough to stop the Death Order of Terri Schindler Schiavo at the hands of Judge Greer who represents(?) the State of Florida. Husband Michael Schiavo will most likely spend the time, while Terri is facing death, with pregnant girlfriend of 7 years Jodi Centonzi and their child. Perhaps they both will be thinking of how much money might still be left in Terri's rehabilitation fund of $750,000 (which wasn't spent on Terri's rehabilitation which was promised) and most of which was spent by the husband (Michael Schiavo) to pay Attorney George Felos ($550,000 according to the court records) to help expedite Terri's state sanctioned murder (based on on highly questionable hearsay evidence).

If you are concerned, there is not much more time (Oct. 15th at 2PM) to help Terri Schindler Schiavo get the actual
rehabilitation stipulated to the jury in the Nov. 1992 medical malpractice lawsuit.

Governor of Florida Jeb Bush (Executive Office of Governor Fax: 850-488-9810, jeb@myflorida.com) acted as Amicus of the court in this case. Unfortunately, what Terri Schindler Schiavo immediately needs is an honest Amicus to act on her behalf to halt the execution!!!

WOULD YOU VOTE TO KILL HER?

Governor Jeb Bush (Executive Office of Governor Fax: 850-488-9810, jeb@myflorida.com) would like to get your vote.

Please fax, phone, e-mail, and write Florida Governor Jeb Bush, your representatives, the media, your friends and neighbors to help get this message out as often as you can!!!
5,382 posted on 10/10/2003 6:30:28 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: pc93
http://www.tomeaker.com/ts/terri-cable.mov

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download
5,383 posted on 10/14/2003 6:15:35 PM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93
TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

Posted by pc93 to pc93
On News/Activism 10/15/2003 9:19 AM PDT #2,431 of 2,431

Lauren doesn't call me back even though she says in her Audix that she will. This is the integrity of Jeb's office.



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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

Posted by pc93 to Velveeta
On News/Activism 10/15/2003 9:13 AM PDT #2,430 of 2,431

Also if you get through the Lauren O'Conner or Christa Calamas or ask for anyone on Jeb's legal team then ask them why in the world they would want to be complicit in murder considering the documented improprities in the case-- because that is what they are going to be if they do not bring a halt to Terri's tube removal and subsequent forced dehydration and starvation (this is a State action not a judicial action). Jeb represents the State of Florida and he better the hell know that he has the right and power to stop this.



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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

Posted by Velveeta to pc93
On News/Activism 10/15/2003 9:09 AM PDT #2,429 of 2,431

I did fax and have tried calling but the phone signals busy. I just tried calling again a few minutes ago and will continue to keep trying!



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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

Posted by pc93 to JulieRNR21
On News/Activism 10/15/2003 9:04 AM PDT #2,427 of 2,431

If you can fax the petition to Jeb as well that would be good.



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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

Posted by pc93 to Velveeta
On News/Activism 10/15/2003 8:43 AM PDT #2,423 of 2,431

You can do that but why not also call and fax them:

All,

Please call Jeb's Office at 850-488-4441 and ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner (Aide to Governor Bush).
Let her know that by Jeb's own admission in his Amicus Memorandum that Terri is being denied due process.
Let her know that Jeb as Governor has an obligation to step in and bring a halt to Terri's execution.
Among other things ask that Terri be:

given "Foster Care" custody status based on reports of abuse and
neglect filed on Terri's behalf" in adult protective services.

that Terri be made a Ward of the State.

that Jeb should step in where there is obvious blatant criminality in this case.. criminal negligence in his
own words by the courts, etc.

Do not stop calling.

Please spread the message!

P.S. Please do the same asking to speak to Christa Calamas to relate the same. Ask her why if their are so many criminal improprieties in the case that Jeb refuses to suspend Judge Greer or call a halt to this and that a criminal investigation begun, etc. ask them why her and her legal team are not for true justice in this case and why they are not enforcing the laws against criminal behaviour.

---

WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A KILLER?

Governor of Florida Jeb Bush's Amicus Curiae (Friend of the Court)
wasn't convincing enough to stop the Death Order of Terri Schindler
Schiavo at the hands of Judge Greer who represents the State of
Florida. Husband Michael Schiavo will most likely spend the time,
while Terri is facing death, with pregnant girlfriend of 7 years
Jodi Centonzi and their child. Perhaps they both will be thinking of
how much money might still be left in Terri's rehabilitation fund of
$750,000 (which wasn't spent on Terri's rehabilitation which was
promised) and most of which was spent by the husband (Michael
Schiavo) to pay Attorney George Felos ($550,000 according to the
court records) to help expedite Terri's state sanctioned murder
(based on on highly questionable hearsay evidence).

If you are concerned, there is not much more time (Oct. 15th at 2PM)
to help Terri Schindler Schiavo get the actual
rehabilitation stipulated to the jury in the Nov. 1992 medical
malpractice lawsuit.

Governor of Florida Jeb Bush (Executive Office of Governor Fax: 850-
488-9810, jeb@myflorida.com) acted as Amicus of the court in this
case. Unfortunately, what Terri Schindler Schiavo immediately needs
is an honest Amicus to act on her behalf to halt the execution!!!

WOULD YOU VOTE TO KILL HER?

Governor Jeb Bush -> Executive Office of Governor Fax: 850-488-9810
<- jeb@myflorida.com would like to get your vote.
Voice: 1-850-488-7146
Fax: 1-850-487-0801

Please fax, phone, e-mail, and write Florida Governor Jeb Bush, your
representatives, the media, your friends and neighbors to help get
this message out as often as you can!!!

Ask him why he never answered e-mail, voice and faxed letters anent
him convening a special session in the legislature to stop Terri's
execution by revising the laws to protect against this madness. IT'S
UP TO GOVERNOR BUSH TO CALL AN EMERGENCY SESSION TO GET TERRI AN
INDEPENDENT GUARDIAN AD LITEM.

Ask Jeb why he hasn't suspended Greer for his improprieties.

Ask Jeb how is it that while he knows the actions he can take he
isn't taking them!

1) Taking judicial action,

Jeb's sworn duty in Article IV Executive, Section 1. Governor, "(b)
The governor may initiate judicial proceedings in the name of the
state against any executive or administrative state, county or
municipal officer to enforce compliance with any duty or restrain
any unauthorized act."

by:
A) Filing with the Supreme Court and or the Legislature a Motion for
a STAY on all currently in play judicial proceedings having anything
to do with the discontinuance of Life or having a resulting
expectation of death. The people involved should by executive order,
etc. be ordered to deliver and insure that ALL rights (including
right to food and water, etc.) and retained rights of those involved
are afforded.

B) Filing a Motion in the appropriate venue to effect a Moratorium
on the entire judicial branches ability to receive, open, or proceed
with a case in which the petitioning of the discontinuance of life
support or facilitation of intentional dehydration/starvation is
desired by anyone.

C) Establish a commission that is at least 2/3 comprised of the
public and includes members of the Terri Schiavo supporters main
group to have fact finding powers and give a report to the Governor
and Legislature on the extent of the merchants of death's subversive
methods as is unlawful pursuant to FS 876.22 through FS 876.31. To
give recommendation of the legislation needed to repair, fix and
provide future constitutional protection of every citizens Right To
Life. The President and the Popes "Culture of Life Initiative" in
essence.

D) Initiate a criminal investigation into what happened to Terri
Schiavo and bring charges and full prosecution of all the principal
perpetrators and accomplices as a societal message to all those who
are approached or succumb to the unlawful merchants of death. Any
investigation should encompass the entire history of events from
before her injury incident in 1990 through the present which
continues daily as THE atrocity of humanity. Many involved in the
fight to do what the state is required to do, protect its people
from abuse, neglect and exploitation - the "legal civil murder" as
will become the precedent (if something isn't done to save Terri) -
have uncovered 1000s of evidentiary details that will be of great
assistance to fixing the damage and repairing with greater
shielding, the Right To Life, by writing out the methods that have
become the Death Merchants tools and pathways to TAKING the Lives
and Assets of this State's vulnerable.
5,384 posted on 10/15/2003 9:30:15 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1001842/posts?page=1
5,385 posted on 10/15/2003 4:21:13 PM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93
BREAKING NEWS!!!

Please see terrisfight.org immediately for the documents which prove that Jeb has the right, power, and obligation to stop what is happening to Terri Schindler Schiavo right now. This information cannot be ignored. This is breaking news! Please spread the word as far and wide as possible!
5,386 posted on 10/16/2003 9:10:56 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93
#1-850-488-1581

Call and LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will get a machine. JUST leave a message anyway. FILL THE ANSWERING MACHINE UP. It will only take a few cents to do it and it sure feels good to do what you know is right. EVERY FREEPER PHONE....in fact PHONE two or three times!!!!!!
5,387 posted on 10/19/2003 4:45:18 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: pc93
#1-850-488-1581

Call and LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will get a machine. JUST leave a message anyway. FILL THE ANSWERING MACHINE UP. It will only take a few cents to do it and it sure feels good to do what you know is right. EVERY FREEPER PHONE....in fact PHONE two or three times!!!!!!
5,388 posted on 10/19/2003 4:45:49 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: pc93
#1-850-488-1581

Call and LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will get a machine. JUST leave a message anyway. FILL THE ANSWERING MACHINE UP. It will only take a few cents to do it and it sure feels good to do what you know is right. EVERY FREEPER PHONE....in fact PHONE two or three times!!!!!!
5,389 posted on 10/19/2003 4:46:04 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: pc93
#1-850-488-1581

Call and LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will get a machine. JUST leave a message anyway. FILL THE ANSWERING MACHINE UP. It will only take a few cents to do it and it sure feels good to do what you know is right. EVERY FREEPER PHONE....in fact PHONE two or three times!!!!!!
5,390 posted on 10/19/2003 4:46:13 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: pollywog
They have replaced Terri's feed tube due to a Florida executive order passed by their legislature and signed by J. Bush!

(Along with the ban on partial birth abortions passed today under scrutiny of his bro. the Pres, this has been a good day, newswise)

The FL decision will no doubt be challenged, so continue to pray for Terri!!!


Oh Mary, conceived with out sin, pray for us that have recourse unto thee.



(before you jump on me for that,remember that Terri is Catholic, and her "husband" has denied her the sacraments of her/our religion)
5,391 posted on 10/22/2003 3:36:07 AM PDT by okcvck
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To: pollywog
They have replaced Terri's feed tube due to a Florida executive order passed by their legislature and signed by J. Bush!

(Along with the ban on partial birth abortions passed today under scrutiny of his bro. the Pres, this has been a good day, newswise)

The FL decision will no doubt be challenged, so continue to pray for Terri!!!


Oh Mary, conceived with out sin, pray for us that have recourse unto thee.



(before you jump on me for that,remember that Terri is Catholic, and her "husband" has denied her the sacraments of her/our religion)
5,392 posted on 10/22/2003 3:36:29 AM PDT by okcvck
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To: pollywog
They have replaced Terri's feed tube due to a Florida executive order passed by their legislature and signed by J. Bush!

(Along with the ban on partial birth abortions passed today under scrutiny of his bro. the Pres, this has been a good day, newswise)

The FL decision will no doubt be challenged, so continue to pray for Terri!!!


Oh Mary, conceived with out sin, pray for us that have recourse unto thee.



(before you jump on me for that,remember that Terri is Catholic, and her "husband" has denied her the sacraments of her/our religion)
5,393 posted on 10/22/2003 3:37:14 AM PDT by okcvck
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To: pollywog
They have replaced Terri's feed tube due to a Florida executive order passed by their legislature and signed by J. Bush!

(Along with the ban on partial birth abortions passed today under scrutiny of his bro. the Pres, this has been a good day, newswise)

The FL decision will no doubt be challenged, so continue to pray for Terri!!!


Oh Mary, conceived with out sin, pray for us that have recourse unto thee.



(before you jump on me for that,remember that Terri is Catholic, and her "husband" has denied her the sacraments of her/our religion)
5,394 posted on 10/22/2003 3:37:14 AM PDT by okcvck
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To: pollywog
They have replaced Terri's feed tube due to a Florida executive order passed by their legislature and signed by J. Bush!

(Along with the ban on partial birth abortions passed today under scrutiny of his bro. the Pres, this has been a good day, newswise)

The FL decision will no doubt be challenged, so continue to pray for Terri!!!


Oh Mary, conceived with out sin, pray for us that have recourse unto thee.



(before you jump on me for that,remember that Terri is Catholic, and her "husband" has denied her the sacraments of her/our religion)
5,395 posted on 10/22/2003 3:38:37 AM PDT by okcvck
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To: okcvck
Boycott anything having to do with Florida (orange juice, travel, retirement and any business transactions) and let the Chambers of Commerce know. Hit 'em in the pocket book where it really will change things.
5,396 posted on 11/01/2003 4:37:39 PM PST by rneilwhitt
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To: windchime; William Terrell; russesjunjee; GWB and GOP Man; FL_engineer; pc93; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...
Bumping to pour through this monster thread again.

Just pinging you to say "hi".

5,397 posted on 05/10/2004 9:21:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: iowamomforfreedom; pc93; MonteMar

I'm researching this big old thread and bumping it to the top so I can find it later. It's amazing all the stuff that Greer has gotten away with.


5,398 posted on 05/19/2004 4:54:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: syriacus
Forensic pathology, 2nd ed., Vincent J. DiMaio and Dominick Di Maio. Chapter 22...Sudden Death During or Immediately after a Violent Struggle. (p 500-501)

Hi!! I've been going back over some stuff from last year and found I had made a note of your post 5214 on the monster Terri thread. I'm still looking for this resource you have given at the end of your post. Could you help me locate it? I can't find it in my local library. How did you come across it? Would love to read this info for myself. Thanks for any help you can provide.

5,399 posted on 07/18/2004 8:41:24 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Was this the biggest Terri thread or what?!! I couldn't find the one I got on first after I joined 8-29-03. Perhaps I'm missing something.


5,400 posted on 10/05/2004 12:02:12 PM PDT by pc93
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