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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: trustandobey
"Mrs. Browning, do you want to die ... do you want to die?" I nearly shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue."

I've read that before somewhere. Disgusting isn't it?
4,561 posted on 09/17/2003 8:21:22 PM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
Thank you for the multiple pics of heaven, MarMema.

I saw the FoxNew report and this is what I saw: a woman lying in bed with eyes wide open and looking up at a mylar balloon, following the balloon clearly with her eyes as someone moved it. The news announcer said that Terri's feeding tube would be removed on Oct. 15th, and that the Judge refused her parents' wishes to see if Terri could learn to eat on her own.

Terri's room was well lit, and she was not in a vegetative state. The report would be horrifying to anyone with eyes to see. FoxNews has a large international audience. They did good tonight, imho.

We have one month.

4,562 posted on 09/17/2003 8:23:44 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I'm wondering how many chances he ought to get. I really am." ~ Rummy re. press, 9/16)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank you, Fox. We can perhaps, email them thank you's for their unbiased reporting..
4,563 posted on 09/17/2003 8:30:07 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: dixiegrrl
There's got to be a connection that has been missed. Mulling it over.......
4,564 posted on 09/17/2003 8:39:08 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: maxwellp
FOX NEWS...Well, it's about dad-gum time!!!!!!!!! E-mailing them tomorrow if it is nothing more than a blurb.
4,565 posted on 09/17/2003 8:41:33 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: trustandobey
IIRC, Felos has now been paid over $400,000.
4,566 posted on 09/17/2003 8:43:52 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: trustandobey
I have a few .pdf files of pages from that book provided by a "friend" -- will gladly e-mail them to anyone! I also put several excerpts here about 1,000 posts ago. If anyone wants them....this guy is spooky.
4,567 posted on 09/17/2003 8:45:29 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: windchime
My thinking is planned.
4,568 posted on 09/17/2003 8:46:32 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Saddlin' up there with ya, Cowgirl! As an American hero said, "Let's Roll."
4,569 posted on 09/17/2003 8:48:21 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
'I think it's useful to simply call Carassas' office to say that "you agree with Governor Bush that Terri Schiavo should be assigned a Guardian Ad Litem."'


I do agree and will call. My concern was that, when someone here stated he WANTED people to call his office, he was wanting factual information regarding Terri's case.

When there's this much controversy regarding Terri's 'treatment', an objective guardian who has nothing to gain is the first step in seeing that her rights are protected. Judge Greer has publicly refused to appoint such a person. Who would/could do it?
4,570 posted on 09/17/2003 8:55:05 PM PDT by windchime
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To: kimmie7
"My thinking is planned."

Mine, too. Still on the same track. :)
4,571 posted on 09/17/2003 9:11:31 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime; trustandobey
$9.4M was technically awarded by the jury, but they reduced the amount to $1.2M "to reflect Terri’s attributable negligence". I believe they felt she was partially responsible due to her eating disorder.
4,572 posted on 09/17/2003 9:16:25 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: iowamomforfreedom; trustandobey; kimmie7; MarMema; syriacus; Ragtime Cowgirl; All
WorldNetDaily report:

Order signed for starvation of disabled woman

4,573 posted on 09/17/2003 9:25:46 PM PDT by windchime
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Thanks for clarification!
4,574 posted on 09/17/2003 9:26:47 PM PDT by windchime
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To: floriduh voter; windchime
Here is a good place to look up campaign contributions:

http://www.opensecrets.org/

I looked up Greer's from Florida and found 2, but neither was George.
4,575 posted on 09/17/2003 9:31:05 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Thank you!
4,576 posted on 09/17/2003 9:35:22 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime; All
Just a little f.y.i. Someone mentioned on this thread or another...the ACLU and that they would probably come in on the wrong side of this. They already have. This from http://www.internationaltaskforce.org/fctfla.htm

FLORIDA SUPREME COURT REJECTS ASSISTED SUICIDE
On July 17, 1997, the Florida Supreme Court, by a vote of 5-1, decided the case of Krischer v. McIver (1) which involved a challenge to the state's one hundred twenty-nine year-old law against assisted suicide. (2) The challenge was based on the Florida constitution's Privacy Amendment (3)
The case was an appeal of the January 31, l997 decision by Florida Circuit Judge S. Joseph Davis which gave specific approval for a physician, Dr. Cecil McIver, to intentionally provide a lethal dose of drugs to Charles Hall, an AIDS patient. In his decision Judge Davis ruled that an individual has the "right to determine his or her course of medical treatment, including the option to hasten his or her death." (4)

Davis' decision and its wording posed a serious threat to all Florida residents.

This fact sheet described what was at issue in the case.

....

The case is a joint effort of Florida's Hemlock Society and the Florida ACLU. It was in the strategic planning for several years.

4,577 posted on 09/17/2003 9:38:25 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: kimmie7
same source:

Hemlock actively recruited patients and doctors for the case.
In the summer of l994, Hemlock of Florida ran a front-page article in its newsletter recruiting terminally ill patients and cooperative doctors to serve as plaintiffs in a lawsuit challenging the state's assisted suicide law. (12) The search continued with additional emphasis being placed on the need for a terminally ill patient "who anticipates that he/she will live for 12 months or so." (13)

By the end of l995, Hemlock reported that Attorney Robert Rivas of the American Civil Liberties Union had agreed to work pro bono on the case and that "[a]s soon as we find the right patient, we will be able to go to court." (14) The ACLU would share costs of the case with Hemlock. (15)

Florida Hemlock president Mary Bennett Hudson said lawsuit organizers traveled statewide, interviewing almost 50 patients and more than 12 physicians to find the ideal plaintiffs for the case. According to Hudson, "We knew we needed people who were articulate, who would make good witnesses." (16)

Finally, semi-retired physician Cecil McIver, 74, and Charles Hall, a 35-year-old restaurant manager who contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion, became the plaintiffs in the case which has reached the Florida Supreme Court.


Doctor and patient had never met before the case began.
In his opinion, declaring the right for McIver to prescribe lethal medication to Hall, Judge Davis implied a Marcus Welby & patient type of relationship between the two plaintiffs: ":[T]he Court must leave the final determination of when to die to the privacy of the physician patient relationship where it belongs." (17) However, McIver and Hall had never met before the lawsuit. (18)

After meeting, McIver's contact with Hall was limited to a "review of Mr. Hall's medical and hospital records" and to observing Hall "on several occasions." (19)
4,578 posted on 09/17/2003 9:39:45 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: kimmie7
Come to think of it...I'm becoming more and more convinced Greer is affiliated with Hemlock, et al. His decisions sound much like this:

It was during the Hemlock conference’s first session that Merrill, Raben, and others presented those research findings to conference attendees. The message was simple: People don’t like the word "suicide," and Hemlock had to take on a kinder, gentler image. "People want to talk about this concept as ‘lessening suffering’ rather than ‘assistance in dying,’" Merrill explained.

Even more significant, he said, was that support for Hemlock’s agenda jumped 13 percentage points when the idea of patients’ being in control of their care and pain treatment at the end of life was presented to the focus groups.

A handout distributed to the conference audience spelled out Hemlock’s new direction. Deceptively titled "Empowering People to Preserve the Dignity of Life: A New Roadmap," [hereafter cited as "Roadmap"] the sheet stated that the newly "reshaped and expanded" advocacy program will be carried out, not by Hemlock, but by its political arm, the Patients Rights Organization of the United States of America (PRO-USA). The new program consists of three key components: (1) promotion of a new advance directive, (2) consensus building endorsements of Hemlock’s new "Statement of Principles," and (3) the advancement of state laws to expand patients’ rights.

4,579 posted on 09/17/2003 9:43:32 PM PDT by kimmie7 (May God richly bless Terri Schiavo and her family. Pray for His intercession as we saw last week!)
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To: kimmie7
I want them Kimmie, thank you very much.
When I go speak at Greek churches I want to share what he has written (felos).
My regular email addy is
LMHOltz@pacaccess.com

Capitals not needed but people tend to see the small case L and use an I instead so always cap the first few letters...

Laurie
4,580 posted on 09/17/2003 9:55:43 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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