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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: MarMema
I'd like to see them.
2,041 posted on 09/07/2003 10:38:23 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: phenn
How about "Willful derelection of duty" in re the management of her guardianship and "Abuse (by derelection of duty) of an Elderly or Disabled Person?" - by not enforcing the already funded and court mandated rehabilitation? Is that doable?
2,042 posted on 09/07/2003 10:42:16 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: phenn
Conspiracy to commit fraud? Again, the guardianship/rehab money. As I understand it, he has blatantly allowed Michael Schiavo to discard the court's orders for rehabilitation as well as allowing over $400,000 to be spent on something other than what another court earmarked it for. Surely there's got to be something there. If only getting one judge ticked at another...lol
2,043 posted on 09/07/2003 10:45:24 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: Don Joe
Well, that just stinks. Anyone have some webspace I can use? If not, I will just subscribe to one tonight.
2,044 posted on 09/07/2003 10:47:14 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: kimmie7
I think this federal suit represents Terri's best hope.

Let's hope they can come back with a re-write on it that the judge likes.

2,045 posted on 09/07/2003 10:49:39 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: kimmie7
My husband just told me that Greer can no longer rule on the removal of the tube on the 11th, he has to wait until the federal court issue is completed ( and it seems like they would be wanting to come back on the federal filing right at the end of it to give themselves the most time).

So that means the 11th is no longer a date to be concerned about, correct?

2,046 posted on 09/07/2003 10:53:16 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Most people seem to think (and I believe the Judge has stated) that he will just set the date further in the future to allow time for the Federal case to be followed to its conclusion. Isn't that just dandy...a little cocky, no?
2,047 posted on 09/07/2003 10:58:48 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: kimmie7
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining.

Well at least they are on the right track now, and working under a different judge. It was about the rights of the disabled all along, imo.

2,048 posted on 09/07/2003 11:09:32 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: kimmie7
My next question is when and how do they balance the issues of health care surrogate against family rights/legal guardianship?

Has Terri had a health care surrogate assigned to her?

2,049 posted on 09/07/2003 11:14:15 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Don Joe
"But what bothered me more than that, was the fact that he didn't have anyone on from Terri's side, to counter Felos."

I agree with your statement regarding the Gibson report. I pointed it out to illustrate the difference between his and Hannity's report. Gibson DID report the story, but put the wrong 'face' on it without ample facts.

Felos should not be the 'face' of this case. Hannity helped put Terri's face on the story by inviting her family for the interview. It's not about Felos....it's about Terri.

Did you see this thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977544/posts

2,050 posted on 09/07/2003 11:15:01 AM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
Terri hasn't even had her teeth brushed in years. Nor a pap smear, never had a mammogram.

Could you explain more about a 'health care surrogate'.

2,051 posted on 09/07/2003 11:24:56 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: kimmie7
Kimmie, it seems to me like Governor Bush wishes all this "Terri stuff" would just go away, and it will by Sept. 21 or so. He has written the letter, and I bet that's all he intends to do, knowing full well that George Greer would not even read the letter. I have no hope at all that Bush will try to suspend Greer and create another judicial firestorm. The Bushes do not like controversies to emerge on their watches. Were Bush to suspend Greer, it is possible that the hospice will not legally recognize Greer's "suspension" and proceed full speed with the starvation.
2,052 posted on 09/07/2003 11:28:37 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: kimmie7
From my post 1983.

"Although the Cruzan decision limits rights of families in Missouri to make end-of-life decisions for incompetent patients, Dr. Smith does not back a health-care-surrogate law, like those in other states. On the contrary, he worries that legislative involvement might open the door to further restricting patient and family rights.

"All we need is for the Supreme Court in this state to rule that surrogates can remove artificial feedings from terminally ill patients and patients in a persistent vegetative state."

Rather than lobbying for laws, Dr. Smith said, he would like to see Missourians march on the state capital to protest "the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to care for patients in persistent vegetative states and the money spent to hire private lawyers to block families from doing the right thing." He shared his experiences as a doctor who has helped patients and families who wanted to withdraw respirators, tube feeding and other life-sustaining treatments in Missouri, one of the states with the most restrictions on when such care can be withdrawn...."

I followed the link you posted for Florida law and there was a section on health care surrogates.

2,053 posted on 09/07/2003 11:32:35 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Theodore R.
I agree with you on Greer. It seems to me like the federal judge was the one who is open to listening and thinking about this, having given the Schindlers time to come back with an apparent "fixed mistake" in their first filing.
That judge might be sympathetic....to nice letters to him.
2,054 posted on 09/07/2003 11:48:49 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
"All we need is for the Supreme Court in this state to rule that surrogates can remove artificial feedings from terminally ill patients and patients in a persistent vegetative state."

Funny how this neuro said it this way,when what I think he really worries about is if the health care surrogates stop the removal of tube feedings, not bring them on.

2,055 posted on 09/07/2003 11:51:10 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Don Joe
I think kimmie7 has the image, I just have to check out a different thread. It's pretty quiet on Free Republic today but that's typical for a Sunday. It will pick up after Dubya speaks and the Dems do their rebuttal.
2,056 posted on 09/07/2003 11:56:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
The hearing is for 10 a.m. Thursday. It is possible that the Thursday A.M. feeding will be Terri's last, or perhaps the Thursday evening feeding. There is nothing we can do, as all appeals have been exhausted. No one will take the initiative to save this poor soul. They do not consider her "quality of life" worth saving. We are reaching the point where miracles can no longer happen in this case.
2,057 posted on 09/07/2003 12:27:14 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: fieldmarshaldj
DJ, have you been keeping up with the Schindler starvation case in FL?

*ping*
2,058 posted on 09/07/2003 12:28:09 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
They have to wait until the federal case is resolved.
There is still that one chance, I think, that civil rights and the ADA will come through. Keep the faith.
2,059 posted on 09/07/2003 12:29:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: phenn
"I think the forces trying to off this young, innocent woman are a lot larger than any of us will ever understand. And I think there is a very systematic protocol or reasoning in place as well. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help it if it crosses my mind."


Bump!
2,060 posted on 09/07/2003 12:32:16 PM PDT by windchime
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