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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; floriduh voter
ping
181 posted on 08/29/2003 2:45:39 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: kimmie7
And, for that matter, if all that were needed for the Schindlers to whisk Terri away was time -- I'd be up for it. This simply can't happen.

And yes, I've been talking non-stop all day at work too. I don't know what's gotten into me. Sorry.

182 posted on 08/29/2003 2:47:19 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks. I'll have to check my 118 to see what I said. I decided that I would pour it on today, no holds barred; especially before the long weekend. They can think about Terri until Tuesday. FV
183 posted on 08/29/2003 5:56:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: JulieRNR21
Glenn Beck has been on vacation lately. I hope hope emails are full of Terri for his return. I tried to contact Bill O' Reilly but ended up in a window where I would have to register. I hope somebody who has emailed him before gives O' Reilly an update. I'll email Hannity over the weekend. FV
184 posted on 08/29/2003 6:00:10 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; PhiKapMom; Joe Brower; MeeknMing; windchime; davidosborne; summer
I'm so proud of all the freepers who came out of nowhere to post on the Terri threads. There are names that are new to me. Terri's plight has touched a lot of folks. We don't know how this will turn out, but we sure gave it our all. Thanks, freepers.

If you haven't made any emails or calls yet, our cut off date is September 11, 2003. All the numbers you need are on this thread. If you have a ping list, please ping them.

185 posted on 08/29/2003 6:29:01 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: syriacus
I'd send your information on the ties between Hospice, Judge Lenderman and Judge Greer to Al Reuchel at Bay News 9. Al Reuchel is the only local reporter who has the guts to do an indepth story about Terri. It may just be a coincidence re: the Hospice ties but there is an "appearance" of impropriety in addition to the callous attitude of J. Greer and hubby Schiavo. They want her dead and cremated.
186 posted on 08/29/2003 6:38:17 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: NautiNurse
I too received a letter after getting stonewalled by Bush's office, the Florida Attorney General's office,
etc. (there is a story behind this) and the next day of his official letter to Judge Greer. This is the letter. It seems that Jeb's letter was formulated just to appease people complaining to make it look like he cared because he was receiving angry letters (I can say that I have sent more than one stating that Michael Schiavo is getting away with murder sanctioned by Jeb Bush, and the Florida Supreme Court.) and perhaps was afraid that this would actually get out more in the public awareness. I sent to various lists and forwarded my e-mails to Jeb for him to see. This is plain and simple murder. Read the e-mail and tell me that he gives a damn. They already know what is going to happen.

Here is the letter from Jeb and his cronies:

Dear Citizen:

Below please find a copy of the letter Governor Bush sent to Judge Greer, the Circuit Court Judge in the Terri Schiavo guardianship case. Because the Florida Supreme Court declined to review this case on Friday, it goes back to the Circuit Court. Pursuant to the Second District Court of Appeal opinion, Judge Greer has scheduled a hearing on September 11 to determine the date for withdrawal of hydration and nutrition.

Thank you for your concern for the well being of Mrs. Schiavo.
187 posted on 08/29/2003 6:38:51 PM PDT by pc93 (Muder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: syriacus
Add to my post, "if I were you, I'd send an email to Al Reuchel of Bay News 9." I am spending tomorrow with my mom instead of being on the www.
188 posted on 08/29/2003 6:40:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: floriduh voter; All
Here's an interesting article I found through an Alexa search:

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usschi153221372apr15,0,5890294.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

It seems there was a guardian ad litem appointed at one time. Here is an excerpt:

In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard Pearse as Terri's guardian ad litem. His job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court.

At the 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support.

Pearse said he was troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age. As her husband, Michael would inherit what is left of her malpractice award, originally $700,000, which is held in a trust fund administered by the court. Accounting of the fund is sealed. But Michael's lawyer, George Felos, said most of it has been spent on legal fees associated with the custody dispute.

Here is a link to a pdf file of Pearse's affidavit:

http://host85.ipowerweb.com/~friendso/guardian.pdf

Also, here is some interesting info on what Michael knew about Terri's wishes:

The Schindlers had contacted a woman Michael dated in 1991 who told them Michael had confessed to her he did not know what Terri would want. Although the woman refused to sign an affidavit, it bought the Schindlers some time. And with it, they found Trudy Capone. A former co-worker of Michael's, Capone signed an affidavit on May 9, 2001, stating "Michael confided in me all the time about Terri ... He said to me many times that he had no idea what her wishes were."

And testimony from a close friend of Terri's:

One of Terri's childhood friends, Diane Meyer, testified that Terri once uncharacteristically lost her temper when Meyer told a joke about Karen Quinlan. "What is the state vegetable of New Jersey?" Meyer asked Terri in the summer of 1982. The punch line was "Karen Ann Quinlan." "She said the joke wasn't funny and did not approve of what was going on in the Quinlan case," Meyer testified, referring to the legal battle to remove the woman from life support. "I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this?'"

Actually, I was doing a search on Judge Greer when I found this stuff. Still looking for that smoking gun. WHY IS GREER SO BENT ON KILLING HER??

189 posted on 08/29/2003 6:55:30 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom
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To: pc93
Perhaps if you had started at the beginning of this thread you would have seen Jeb's letter posted there. I don't believe at all that our Governor 'doesn't care' or is doing this to appease critics. He has made many unpopular, ethical decisions that were very difficult and brought him attacks from the WORLD press - on everything from school vouchers which he fought all the way to the higher courts and won - and was attacked and fought and won again - to attempting to appoint a legal guardian for an unborn baby - to bringing private groups - individuals and neighborhoods into "Child Welfare" - threatening the "State's" total control in an attempt to reach troubled children by pairing them with capable and caring adults in the private sector.

This is not a man who does things for political expedience. His letter is no casual last-minute plea. It is a heartfelt - almost begging - plea for Terri's life.

190 posted on 08/29/2003 7:04:54 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: floriduh voter
Michael Schiavo plans on having her body cremated.
191 posted on 08/29/2003 7:06:41 PM PDT by pc93 (Muder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
WHY IS GREER SO BENT ON KILLING HER??

Good question, isn't it?

See what you were able to find in a very short time. It is enough for any JUST person to stop this nonsense and appoint a GUARDIAN. Anyone else doing a cursory search can find the same info, the same reasons to most definitely remove this Judge from the case, and remove Terri from this 'husband's' control.

It makes no sense - unless you consider the $$$ and the big payoff - "State" - not God - as arbiter of life and death - which, of course, leads back to $$$.

192 posted on 08/29/2003 7:10:22 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: kimmie7; floriduh voter
Lol, your tag line, kimmie...not me, nope, not at all!

kimmie, fv, now that info has been gathered, individuals and newspapers contacted, perhaps we can make sure those who can do something about this know all the facts. Of course they should.

I must say that the one I'm most disappointed in is the man you campaigned so hard for, fv, AG Crist. Not even a comment about Terri on his website, though he clearly intervened in other 'unjust' cases. To top it off, his big announcement today is to join the enemy by jumping on the Bush admin. re. gas prices. I asked him whether he knew what the World Bank, the IMF and the Arab League is doing - undermining our efforts in Iraq along with the AMERICAN press, the DNC - and, now, our AG as well. Also asked him when he was going to take the real culprits to task - the anti-American enviral-socialist lobby pushing junk science with the help of the mainstream press and American education establishment...that WE THE PEOPLE have a right to OUR American OIL and GAS resources - much of which is now off-limits under swamp and off-shore, thanks, NOT to the Bush admin., but to those with the power to end a political career (the mainstream press).

193 posted on 08/29/2003 7:18:28 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: 2timothy3.16
Glad I could help! I don't like to register at sites if I can help it, so I was glad to see the option.

There's also a petition that's linked off GlennBeck.com that's set up by Terri's family.
194 posted on 08/29/2003 7:25:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
How telling! So he beat and strangled her to an inch of her life, etc. by strangling her, etc. symptoms, stiff neck, etc. major traumas, now he is doing this just for Terri! It is unbelievable that this guy is getting away with murder with the help of George Felos, Greer, 2nd District Appeals court, Florida Supreme Court, Jeb Bush, etc. And Felos the yoga teacher will be giving a seminar at Unity Church the 7th of Sept. I would like to give him a piece of my mind. Criminal Michael Schiavo should not be Terri Schindlers guardian, he supposedly is by law disqualified considering he has a fiancee and children by the fiancee, etc.
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And testimony from a close friend of Terri's:

One of Terri's childhood friends, Diane Meyer, testified that Terri once uncharacteristically lost her temper when Meyer told a joke about Karen Quinlan. "What is the state vegetable of New Jersey?" Meyer asked Terri in the summer of 1982. The punch line was "Karen Ann Quinlan." "She said the joke wasn't funny and did not approve of what was going on in the Quinlan case," Meyer testified, referring to the legal battle to remove the woman from life support. "I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this?'"

195 posted on 08/29/2003 7:48:59 PM PDT by pc93 (Muder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: pc93
Note to All: A reporter is contacting me to speak to me about Terri's case. I will refer them to Wesley Smith, etc. and to possibly someone from terrisfight.org but would love to receive any good info I can tell the reporter or reasons you believe this is wrong for her feeding tube to be removed. I have good info. but
am accepting contributions, ideas, etc.
196 posted on 08/29/2003 7:52:28 PM PDT by pc93 (Muder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: Tax-chick
Here is the petition to halt the death sentence and for Michael Schiavo to be investigated. He deserves to be put in prison:

We still need your petitions to the Governor. Judge Greer has told the press that he is "not inclined to appoint a Guardian ad Litem". Your voice is still needed!!

http://www.friendsofterri.org/pet.html


197 posted on 08/29/2003 7:59:14 PM PDT by pc93 (Muder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: pc93
Here was my reply to Bush's form letter saying that they are going to be setting
a date to pull the tubes. It says they are going to decide when to pull the
tubes not if.. yet this flies in the face of his letter to Greer. But if you
look closely at the letter to Greer you can basically see he is for her
termination. These are sick people. This is a dog and pony show as one member of
a list I belong to has said. If Bush was for anything good he would put Greer
and Michael Schiavo in their place by getting Attorney General Crist to
investigate and stop this madness:

Well, this is just a bunch of garbage. He just wrote the judge because he knows
he knows that he would look very bad if he didn’t respond. The judge doesn’t
have to listen to him and he isn’t listening to him. I called the office of Jeb
the day before this happened (this letter that he wrote) and was told on the
phone that he can’t do anything. So I asked to be connected to the Attorney
General’s office and they said they can’t do anything and that they can only do
something if Jeb tells them to and that it’s a judicial matter. My point was to
initiate an investigation into this criminal Michael Schiavo and that is what
the petition is about that I sent the link to on the list after Jeb’s letter.
This has been in process for a long time and part of the 27,000 emails. He is
not initiating an investigation into criminal Michael Schiavo because he has no
integrity whatsoever. It’s obvious that Michael Schiavo wants her dead and has
wanted her dead, etc. he has been trying to get this done (the pulling of
feeding tube, etc.) for close to 7 or more years. He obviously thinks he is the
arbiter of her life. In an argument with Terri’s father, he basically said that
he will do whatever he wants. Judge Greer has no integrity either. Apparently
the man is a heartless human being. Felos is a low life scum who is a yoga
teacher and gives seminars at Unity Churches regarding his spiritual battle in
the court room, etc. of people who want to die, etc. yet this woman is a
different story. She didn’t consent to die. She has been held prisoner for over
10 years by heartless human beings only concerned about their self-interest and
not hers. Her parents, brothers and sisters, have her best interest in mind and
should be her guardians. This is clear and has been clear. The legal system has
kept her prisoner at the wishes of criminal Michael Schiavo. The slap in the
face to Jeb by Schiavo is spoken by Michael after Jeb’s letter came to his
attention, etc. he is quoted saying along the lines that he “wishes that Jeb
would kept his thoughts to himself.”, etc. He isn’t above the law (although he
probably believes he is) but is totally in line with the law because the law,
Jeb Bush, and the Florida Supreme Court is sanctioning the murder (by a 15 days
dehydration, starvation death sentence- a torture not even reserved for people
on death row) of an innocent human being who could have regained ability to
function in some form with the right therapy which was never provided by
criminal Michael Schiavo, etc. (even with all the money he has gotten from
this). He obviously has something to hide and again this he will be able to do
very shortly because he is getting away with murder. He is getting away with it
right now by refusing any treatment to her after some recent emergencies as she
is now in critical condition. The ruse is almost over at the expense of a
innocent helpless human. All that I can say is that I find this very
distasteful, disgusting that this is really happening and that these people are
getting away with cold blooded murder. There is a lot to be said for the
subhuman aspects of the whole thing. I have no respect for the people who are
letting this happen. I could have had respect but they didn’t step up to the
plate. I am sorry that I didn’t become aware of this whole issue sooner or else
this issue would not have gone by the wayside. I guarantee you that. The whole
world would know about this. As it now stands they will know about it but after
the fact of the people actions allowing this to happen who could have done
something to stop the madness.


-----Original Message-----
From: LadyThelema grisham [mailto:grisham_thelema@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:07 PM
To: gnosis284
Subject: [gnosis284] Letter from Governor Bush to Judge Greer concerning Terri Schiavo





Dear Citizen:



Below please find a copy of the letter Governor Bush sent to Judge Greer,
the Circuit Court Judge in the Terri Schiavo guardianship case. Because the
Florida Supreme Court declined to review this case on Friday, it goes back
to the Circuit Court. Pursuant to the Second District Court of Appeal
opinion, Judge Greer has scheduled a hearing on September 11 to determine
the date for withdrawal of hydration and nutrition.



Thank you for your concern for the well being of Mrs. Schiavo.
198 posted on 08/29/2003 8:07:33 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: pc93
I have been in touch with Pamela Hennessy from terrisfight.org and I was trying to brainstorm of things that could be done. I had talked to someone on a list I belong to and he gave some suggestsion:

-march on the capital.

also another suggestion of a possibility of what Jeb could do:

As far as the governor goes. I wonder if he could call an emergency session and draft a law that would pass the state house and senate that would transfer legal guardianship of this woman to her parents. I don't know if that is possible but you never know. Although it would take a rather loud voice to get any governors attention.


I actually was trying to brainstorm some more and thought maybe either Schwartzenegger might do something if someone tried to get him to say something about this case but I wrote his campaign office and no one ever called me back like promised, etc. I also thought maybe getting Christopher Reeve involved... heck he was on an episode of Smalleville or whatever... isn't that filmed in Orlando?
199 posted on 08/29/2003 8:19:22 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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To: pc93
I was also thinking that if someone could get George Bush's attention .. after all he's Jeb's brother and if someone could put him on the spot maybe he would actually try to get his brother to get serious about a criminal investigation of Michael Schiavo, Greer, etc.
200 posted on 08/29/2003 8:21:48 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo sanctioned by Jeb Bush and the Florida Supreme Court)
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