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Dean has 21-point lead over Kerry in N.H.
Newsday.com | 8/27 | Will Lester

Posted on 08/27/2003 2:44:57 PM PDT by alwaysconservative

Dean Has 21-Point Lead Over Kerry in N.H.

By WILL LESTER Associated Press Writer

August 27, 2003, 3:28 PM EDT

WASHINGTON -- Howard Dean has grabbed a commanding 21-point lead over rival John Kerry in the latest New Hampshire poll in which voters said they prefer a take-no-prisoners Democrat to one who could oust President Bush.

The likely Democratic primary voters are realists who acknowledge that Bush is a formidable foe: Almost two-thirds -- 64 percent -- said they think the president likely will win re-election in 2004.

Dean, who trailed Kerry in polls earlier this year, led the Massachusetts senator 38 percent to 17 percent in the Zogby International poll conducted Aug. 23-26 and released Wednesday.

When asked whether it was more important to have a candidate willing to stand up for what they believe or a candidate who can win in November 2004, voters said they preferred the former by a 2-to-1 margin.

In his campaign against his top Democratic rivals, Dean has argued that they represent "Bush-lite," and he has assailed those lawmakers who have compromised with the president, particularly those who backed the congressional resolution authorizing the use of military force in Iraq.

The August survey comes as Dean has shown political strength in his fund raising, drawn large crowds for his "Sleepless Summer" tour and appeared in ads on New Hampshire television. The state is slated to hold its primary Jan. 27.

"Dean has spent considerable resources on TV so it's not surprising he's increased his numbers in a very fluid electorate," said Kerry spokesman Robert Gibbs. "Kerry has long-term strengths that will stay with him throughout the winter when more voters are paying attention and making their final decisions."

Dean and Kerry were essentially tied in a Zogby poll in June, and the former Vermont governor held a single-digit lead in a recent survey. Still, the latest numbers were somewhat unexpected, even in the Dean campaign.

"We've noticed a definite increase in interest in Governor Dean and his message, but the new poll numbers were certainly a surprise," said Dorie Clark, a spokeswoman for Dean.

Pollster John Zogby said Dean's support was in all regions of the state, among men and women, Democrats and independents, liberals and moderates. Dean took support from another rival, Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri, and from undecided voters.

Gephardt, who was at 11 percent in February, dropped to 6 percent. Undecided voters fell from 29 percent to 23 percent.

Dean's ability to tap into Gephardt's support was evident in a separate New Hampshire poll. Gephardt has made health care coverage the centerpiece of his campaign, yet the survey found that almost three times as many likely primary voters -- 54 percent -- associate Dean, an internist, with a health care plan than Gephardt, 18 percent.

The bipartisan poll, sponsored by the Service Employees International Union and conducted by Republican Ed Goeas and Democrat Celinda Lake, found rising health care costs was the top campaign issue.

The rest of the Democratic field was in single digits in the Zogby poll. Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut was at 6 percent, and Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who also is running ads in New Hampshire, was at 4 percent.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who is considering a presidential bid, was at 2 percent, while Sen. Bob Graham of Florida and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio were at 1 percent. Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton were at 0 percent.

The Zogby poll of 501 likely primary voters has an error margin of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; democratmeltdown; electionpresident; elections; howarddean; johnkerry; kerry; nh; polls
Let the games begin!
1 posted on 08/27/2003 2:44:57 PM PDT by alwaysconservative
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To: alwaysconservative
Take note of this part:

in the latest New Hampshire poll in which voters said they prefer a take-no-prisoners Democrat to one who could oust President Bush.

The likely Democratic primary voters are realists who acknowledge that Bush is a formidable foe: Almost two-thirds -- 64 percent -- said they think the president likely will win re-election in 2004.

2 posted on 08/27/2003 2:47:00 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Which party represents the working people?)
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To: alwaysconservative
When asked whether it was more important to have a candidate willing to stand up for what they believe or a candidate who can win in November 2004, voters said they preferred the former by a 2-to-1 margin

Sounds like McClintock voters.
3 posted on 08/27/2003 2:54:37 PM PDT by tkathy
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To: alwaysconservative
The other eight dwarves are probably having a very bad day today. With every new poll it seems more and more like the smart thing would be for them to just give up and give Dean the nomination. Right now, it looks like he's running away with it.
4 posted on 08/27/2003 2:55:15 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: alwaysconservative
I have thought, for a long time, that Dean was the one most likely to capture the imagination of the Dems. There is a certain clarity and freshness in his message that a Washington politician with a long voting record just can't match. But I am still shocked to see this kind of lead.
5 posted on 08/27/2003 2:57:54 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy
Freshness? The fellow is a cipher when it comes to any hard factual questions. Russert took his pants down and the only reason the media didn't make anything of it is that Russert would dissect the entire democratic field if they let him interview them all.
6 posted on 08/27/2003 3:10:55 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Fetch this!)
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To: Thebaddog
Yes, freshness, as in freshness of view and voice. He doesn't have to explain a Washington voting record. To the faithful his views comes across with a crisp clarity. Don't confuse "freshness" with veracity, depth, knowledge, etc. If he had these things he might be a very formidable challenger.
7 posted on 08/27/2003 3:19:55 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: alwaysconservative
Dean can have the fringe left wing Democrats. Bush will never win them anyhow. The moderate democrats are the real prize here. Dean will never get them, and it is becoming obvious that Kerry has no chance either. The so-called moderate democrats have already come over to Bush.

The media will never acknowledge that. There is too much money at stake for them. They simply have to go through the charade of a convention next year in Boston. I am loving this!

Barring any major change or circumstances, Bush wins it all next year. I mean 50 states. Call me an optimist!
8 posted on 08/27/2003 3:25:38 PM PDT by Radix
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To: alwaysconservative
Time to bring out the BIG GUNS!


9 posted on 08/27/2003 3:29:46 PM PDT by Pokey78 ("I'm not going to start the Third World War for you"- Gen. Sir Michael Jackson to Gen. Wesley Clark)
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To: alwaysconservative
The addition of maple syrup in their martinis is beginning to have an effect. This looks more like a rendez-vous with idiocy than thoughtful polling.
10 posted on 08/27/2003 3:30:01 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Radix
Barring any major change or circumstances, Bush wins it all next year. I mean 50 states. Call me an optimist!

Quick, annex Cuba and some of Canada's western provinces. A 50 state landslide isn't enough. I want at least a 55 state win.

11 posted on 08/27/2003 3:37:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Master of the single entendre)
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To: Radix
I'm an unabashed optimist. But I don't see any way Bush (as of right now) wins CA, and likely won't carry places like MA and NY. I think NY is his best shot at a breakthrough.

That said, Dean is the love child of the looney left, and at some point, Hillary and Bill may step in to either a) throw him out or b) allow him to win the nomination and then ensure that he loses big.

12 posted on 08/27/2003 4:07:02 PM PDT by LS
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To: Radix; Pokey78; All
Does anybody know what kind of progress is being made to make sure the President is even on the ballot in all the states, since the convention is being held so late? This worries me, since it is such an elementary thing, and the rabid Dems, in their hatred, will do ANYTHING to keep him from being reelected.
13 posted on 08/27/2003 4:31:40 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Which party represents the working people?)
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To: LS
I'm an unabashed optimist. But I don't see any way Bush (as of right now) wins CA, and likely won't carry places like MA and NY. I think NY is his best shot at a breakthrough.

Don't be so negative in your optimism. The governor's office has not been won by a democrat here in Massachusetts in more than twenty years. The wheels turn slow, but they do turn. The Dems are in big trouble and they know it.

14 posted on 08/27/2003 4:46:52 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Dolphy
He's hoping he's Forrest Gump, Only with a civil union bride from the Peoples Republic of Vermont.
15 posted on 08/28/2003 4:30:52 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Fetch this!)
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