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Free Republic Founder Supports Tom McClintock!
Jim Robinson ^

Posted on 08/26/2003 8:22:02 PM PDT by ambrose

Free Republic Founder Supports McClintock



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 26kdollarwelfaretom; isupportarnold; realconservative; sayno2rinos; vote4mcclintock
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To: ambrose
I was just saying pretty much the same thing.
41 posted on 08/26/2003 9:15:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
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To: william clark
You mean like suggesting that someone give the conservative candidate a chance to run some ads

Ads cost money. McClintock doesn't have any. He doesn't have much time to raise it. And he doesn't have a lot of time left for those ads to be effective. The window is slamming shut on his campaign.

Given this reality, McClintock's run reminds me of the great pastime that has done more to get Democrats elected and conservatives shut out in this state than anything else: the vanity candidacy.

Conservative candidates in California have a penchant for beating each other to pieces in the primary phase, because they're all in love with themselves and refuse to say, "Ah, shucks. I have about as much chance of getting the primary win as I do of getting a date with that babe-a-licious sweet young thang over at the condo swimming pool, I'll bow out and back ol' Joe for the slot, he'll do an OK job until he's termed out."

42 posted on 08/26/2003 9:15:51 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I won't say what my source is to mention this, but I know this subject is on the table in back rooms in California. If McClintock and Schwarzenegger run as a ticket -- McClintock for Lt. Gov. -- with a demand that Bustamante resign if he loses the election, would that satisfy your interests?

(If Bustamante refuses to resign, he could be assigned an office in the executive washroom, and McClintock would take his office as Lt. Gov. ad hoc. Remember, you heard this here, first.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "In the Justices We Trust?" posted on FR, other publication to come.

43 posted on 08/26/2003 9:24:17 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
There's no provision in the state constitution for any such ticket.
44 posted on 08/26/2003 9:26:42 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: South40
"You guys?" You must have me confused with someone else. I think he's unelectable but I hardly descend upon every thread.

My mistake. I guess it's because you're spouting the same cowardly nonsense as a number of others.

And, yes...it does need updating as today's poll has him at...what...11% to Arnold's 40 something?

Actually, I think around 17% is the latest. Not that I'd expect you to be impressed by a 13% jump in less than a week's time. I mean, when has momentum ever been a factor in an election?

Sorry bub...but you're confused again. I've bashed no one.

Well, gee, I seem to recall someone using the derogatory term "McClintites." Pardon my mistake.

I've merely stated my opinion that the likelyhood of a mcclintock win in far-left California is unlikely.

Oh, so the rest of it was a collection of typos? As for his chances, Simon came pretty close to getting elected with no political experience and an inept campaign. But of course, why should we think that a man could be elected who's well-versed in California politics, capable of running a competent campaign, and who not only has articulated a plan to turn things around, but is already working to undo the car tax hike?

The bashing, or what I've seen of it, is all (nothing like a good generalization to add credibility to your argument) being done by mclintites (say, I've heard that term somewhere before) to anyone who dares disagree with them.

He can have all the chances you or he wants. I still think he'd stand little chance in the liberal state of California.

Still, best to be on the safe side and offer dire warnings to everyone who'll listen about the danger of allowing him to continue in the race for awhile, right?

In case you're confused again, that's not bashing, it's just my opinion.

Nope. You're clear as crystal. Downright see-through.

45 posted on 08/26/2003 9:27:37 PM PDT by william clark
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To: ambrose
Using the owner's opinion does nothing to bolster anyone's argument. It's a cheap debating tactic.
46 posted on 08/26/2003 9:28:41 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When does the next Crusade start?)
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To: BunnySlippers
Why are liberals trying to pump up McClintock so much

Most likely said already, but what the hell..
Their doing it for "division of the voting base".
Same thing we try to do to them.

47 posted on 08/26/2003 9:29:16 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (carpe ductum)
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To: nopardons
I'm with you.

McKlintock is a fine fellow but he is dead in every poll...even in this whacky free for all.

If it's between Cruz and Arnold then that is a no brainer.

Nothing against JR, but doesn't he usually lecture us on being pragmatic for the long term goals.

Voting for McKlintock, whom I of course prefer ideologically seems Quixotic at this juncture.

48 posted on 08/26/2003 9:30:58 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: Congressman Billybob
That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks for sharing, Billybob.
49 posted on 08/26/2003 9:31:37 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: per loin
What is Uberoth (sp?) doing in this race?
50 posted on 08/26/2003 9:33:02 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: wardaddy
Has anyone posted the rules on removing oneself from the recall ballot? I wonder how much more time Tom has before he cannot bow out of his doomed campaign?
51 posted on 08/26/2003 9:34:53 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Poohbah
Ads cost money. McClintock doesn't have any.

Right. The TV stations are going to let him run them for free. He may not have as much as other candidates, but just pouring money into ads means nothing if you don't put the content into them. Simon learned that the hard way.

He doesn't have much time to raise it. And he doesn't have a lot of time left for those ads to be effective.

Funny, Arnold doesn't seem bothered by the short amount of time.

The window is slamming shut on his campaign.

And you're happy to help with the slamming, from the sounds of it.

Given this reality, McClintock's run reminds me of the great pastime that has done more to get Democrats elected and conservatives shut out in this state than anything else: the vanity candidacy.

This is the argument that, above all others, makes you anti-McClintock types look completely stupid. You're carrying water for an actor with, at best, some history of involvement in the political process and you have the gall to describe a man who's actually working to stop the Democrat fascism from spreading in California a vanity candidate? Just how much are dues in the Flat Earth Society, anyway?

Conservative candidates in California have a penchant for beating each other to pieces in the primary phase

Did you have to put down your club to type that?

52 posted on 08/26/2003 9:35:46 PM PDT by william clark
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To: Cultural Jihad
Good question.
53 posted on 08/26/2003 9:37:44 PM PDT by wardaddy ("when shrimps learn to whistle")
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To: Poohbah
Don't get your panties in a bunch! If I make a mistake, I'm prepared to live with the consequences. But, if it causes you distress, I'm not goiung to apologize for it! Opinions are like *ssholes. Everybody has one.
54 posted on 08/26/2003 9:38:30 PM PDT by old school
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To: Cultural Jihad
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/Calendar.pdf
55 posted on 08/26/2003 9:39:42 PM PDT by deport
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To: anymouse
It also may run FR and JimRob in violation of Campaign Finance Reform regulations

Is that a threat? Just how low will you Ahnold supporters stoop?

56 posted on 08/26/2003 9:42:09 PM PDT by ambrose (Property Taxes are Too Low, Vote for Ahnold!)
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To: wardaddy
It appears that a vast number of people posting to FR, don't really understand politics at all and yes, sometimes JR falls into that catagory. Yet, he HAS , on many occassions, preached the pragmatic way.So, I have no idea, at all, what's up with his newest statement.

Tom has absolutely NO chance, none whatsoever, of winning this thing. Splintering the GOP vote ensures a Cruz win. This is THE most simple political idea, ever known to mankind. A spoiler is a spoiler is a damned SPOILER and dog in the manger voters, no matter which party they claim to belong to, what political side they're on, are the bane of those who actually understand poltics.

FR is back to having a lot of the very vocal no glass people, as opposed to the 1/2 full/1/2 empty types.And sticking with their so called " principles " is going to get them, as always, exactly what they do NOT want ...Cruz B. as ggovernor.

Someone posted snidely, that Conservatives don't have a " herd mentality ". I beg to differ. Some so called Conservatives here, have exactly that. They'd rather lose, than win with a little and build upon the win.

57 posted on 08/26/2003 9:42:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ambrose

Lose the calumny, unless you purposely strive to be self-marginalized.

58 posted on 08/26/2003 9:44:10 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: nopardons
Blah blah blah. Do you think repeating the same garbage over and over makes it true?
59 posted on 08/26/2003 9:45:12 PM PDT by ambrose (Property Taxes are Too Low, Vote for Ahnold!)
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To: ambrose
Blah blah blah.

Sort of sums up your thread. What did you expect?

60 posted on 08/26/2003 9:46:33 PM PDT by PRND21
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