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An Alternate Road Map
The Conning Tower ^ | Aug. 25, 2003 | Trentino

Posted on 08/26/2003 3:08:27 PM PDT by Davis

There's no point in grieving about the demise of the "road map" the State Department concocted and Condi Rice announced fourteen months ago. It's clear, isn't it, that the Arabs resident in Palestine and elsewhere had and have no desire for an Arab state living in peace with Israel. Their desire is the extinction of Israel and the death of Jews. They say this all the time, they teach it in school, they preach it in their mosques. There's no reason to disbelieve them since they've suited their actions to their words with perfect consistency. Why else would they dance for joy at blowing up Jews on a bus in Jerusalem?

Based as it is on a faulty premise, the road map is caput. Whatever the intentions of its patrons, it has no chance for success. It should be stacked in a corner of some storage facility along with the Kellogg-Briand peace pact, the League and United Nations charters, and other miscellaneous flummery.

The Rice road map, like the Oslo accords, was a delusion. Israel faces the same choices it has always faced. It can acquiesce in its own destruction or it can fight.

It can fight as it has been doing, selecting its targets, seeking to kill the chiefs of those who under Allah's battle banner wrap the faithful in Semtex and send them off to martyrdom aboard buses, in grocery stores and restaurants. But Israel's selective and restrained response is not likely to suffice for long. The sheiks, imams, mullahs, and ayatollahs are not likely to be discouraged. They must be persuaded by force of arms.

Israel must change the way she fights. I surely hope she does. Try this alternate road map on for size. See if it fits.

It's no secret that Israel has nuclear weapons, has had them for about forty years. It is my guess that Israel has already stashed a few of them in a number of European capitals, for safety's sake. (Putteth not all thine eggs in the one basket.) There are surely a few in Israel itself that can be made operational in say, forty-five minutes.

Of course, these are purely defensive nuclear weapons. So are the aircraft Israel will use to deliver them to their targets: Riyadh, Damascus, and Teheran. Yes, that's where their defensive capacity will have the greatest impact.

No doubt there will be an outcry. Nuking Riyadh, Damascus, and Teheran on a single day, reducing them to cinders, some will call disproportionate, excessive, maybe even uncivilized–-all that destruction merely to save "that shitty little country" as the French ambassador famously called it. So? There was a great outcry when in 1980 Israel demolished Iraq's Osirik nuclear facility. But the benefits were soon acknowledged. Outcries tend to die down pretty swiftly, and after a while, people will realize what a favor the Jews of Israel have done for the civilized world.

It is likely, too, that Israelis and other Jews will be condemned for killing the moderates of Islam along with their true enemies, militant Islam, the civilians along with the military. But you know, it can't be helped. It may be true, as Daniel Pipes says, that militant Islam is the problem and moderate Islam is the answer. He's a fine scholar and he may be right when he estimates militant Islam at between 10% and 15% of Muslim. That's a large number anyway, about 150,000,000, or thereabouts, and they're very dangerous. Why, can you imagine some of them had the chutzpah to load a truck with explosives in Syria, drive it to Baghdad, park next to UN headquarters and detonate those explosives?

It's impossible, as you know, for an embattled tiny nation fighting for its life to ascertain the status of each of its enemies. Just too hard to sort out the moderates from militants and immoderates, the innocent from the guilty. Let Allah sort them out.


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KEYWORDS: condoleezzarice; islam; israel; roadmaptopeace
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To: tictoc
Israel has offensive capabilities that haven't been seen in decades ... and new tactics and equipment to be utilized way before the threat, let alone use, of nuclear weapons. Short of the Samson Option, I don't expect Israel to be nuking any time soon.
21 posted on 08/26/2003 8:14:45 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Davis
A. Trentino
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

22 posted on 08/26/2003 9:32:58 PM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Davis
What a complete idiot. Period.
24 posted on 08/27/2003 3:52:05 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Davis

This is bilge.

It is appropriate to point out the weaknesses of the Road Map to hell.

It is beyond foolishness to propose that Israel use nuclear weapons against Arab cities without cause.

And please don't pretend to tell us that Palestinian terrorism is due cause to use nuclear weapons.

Trentino wins three Batboys for the sheer, unadulterated idiocy of this article:

Be Seeing You,

Chris

25 posted on 08/27/2003 4:06:30 AM PDT by section9 (To read my blog, click on the Major!)
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To: SJackson
The third most important historical site, this place? It's importance is a recent phenom.

The third most important holy site, made so by anti-Israeli arabs building up the importance of the so-called "Furthest Mosque" referred to in Mohammed's Night Journey fantasy (which did not actually exist at the time of the imagined journey).

26 posted on 08/27/2003 6:10:16 AM PDT by Mackey
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To: section9; Valin; Paul_B
You guys think name-calling is a substitute for argument" You think posting ghoulish picture is the equivalent of rational conversation?

Even since its founding in the seventh century, Islam has been at war with the West, with Christianity. You can look it up, you know. The history books will tell you why Bosnia is Muslim and that the Ottoman Turks were stopped from enslaving Europe--forcibly converting Christians to Islam at the gates of Vienna in 1653. Islam is on the warpath again.

The blasts of explosives in Bali, Africa, at the Marine Barracks in Beirut, at the WTC in New York and the Pentagon, and the USS Cole aren't mythical. We are at war with Islam, and we better win.

There's nothing flaky about Trentino's scenario--which is probably why you people resort to name-calling. It's time to be serious.
27 posted on 08/27/2003 7:08:10 AM PDT by hrhdave
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To: hrhdave
I can't speak for the oyhers but when I see something as world-class stupid as this piece of rambleing tripe I am forced to fall back on name calling.
28 posted on 08/27/2003 7:51:02 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: hrhdave
His prescription is completely flakey because there are lower-level solutions he skips over - namely, dealing more definitively with the Pals themselves. It's irresponsible and immoral to drag in other nations unless necessary. By doing so, Israel would lose the moral high ground, and world opinion with it. Even her friends, few as they are, would be hard-pressed to defend her actions. Much ground would be lost.
29 posted on 08/27/2003 8:07:39 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Paul_B; PhilDragoo
>>It's irresponsible and immoral to drag in other nations unless necessary. <<

Those other nationas are the suppliers, moneybags, aiders and abettors of the bus-bombers. Time to strike them--hard.

It's imperative that Israel not let the "moral high ground" you speak seve as a graveyard. You don't lose your moral high ground by killing your mortal enemies. You affirm it.

30 posted on 08/27/2003 8:53:47 AM PDT by hrhdave
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To: Paul_B
Here's are some of many Arab-Muslim declarations of the War of Extermination.

Earlier this summer, Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi declared, "By G-d, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine (meaning Israel as well as the territories)," justifying his pledge by claiming, "This is our land, not the Jews'." Last year, the leader of Hizbollah, Hassan Nassrallah, mused, "If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." And Hizbollah's protector, the Syrian government, is no less open about its desire to kill all Jews. Syria's Minister of Defense, Mustapha Tlass, opined in a television interview two years ago that if "every Arab killed a Jew, no Jews would remain," and added that he personally wanted "to kill any Jew he faced."

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0803/mowbray_2003_08_28.php3

The appropriate response of Israel is to kill their enemy before the enemy gathers the strength to match his murderous intentions. It's called "self-defence."

31 posted on 08/28/2003 7:57:18 AM PDT by hrhdave
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To: Paul_B
If the situation was reversed and the Arab countries had the nukes, do you think they would be bound by the moral "high ground?" Since they flat out say NO, the answer is clear.
32 posted on 09/25/2003 11:28:00 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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