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Conservatives shouldn't shy away from core values
Fresno Bee ^ | August 26, 2003 | Jim Patterson

Posted on 08/26/2003 10:16:06 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Edited on 04/12/2004 2:10:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

California conservatives are being advised to muzzle our core beliefs in order to elect a Republican to statewide office again. Campaign operatives say our ideas don't sell any more, and we must throw them over in order for a Republican to win again in the Golden State. Pundits say we are in the political wilderness and that the only way out is to compromise our ideals.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; gotom; liberalarnold; noarnold; norino; nosquishes; notrojanhorses
I believe Jim is the former mayor of Fresno. Great words from a great leader.
1 posted on 08/26/2003 10:16:06 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: BlackElk; TheAngryClam; churchillbuff; ElkGroveDan; Gophack; kellynla; PeoplesRep_of_LA; Spiff; ...
PING
2 posted on 08/26/2003 10:16:21 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Why not, Bush has.
3 posted on 08/26/2003 10:17:09 AM PDT by scottlang
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To: ElkGroveDan
Ideas matter. They are the powerful engines of freedom and opportunity. Conservative ideas have stood the test of time and circumstances. They formed the foundation for the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Millions in America and across the globe are now more free and prosperous because leaders who held conservative ideas were not afraid to say so or to use them to govern. Holding office is meaningless if the pathway to that office sheds the very ideas we need to secure the blessings of liberty.

Well said. Is anyone listening or are they trying too fool people into voting 'R'

With a 7% rating from the Demos, and 63% UNfavorable, its now safe to say those fish ain't bitin'

4 posted on 08/26/2003 10:24:25 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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bump!
5 posted on 08/26/2003 10:24:28 AM PDT by heleny
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thanks for posting this article. Excellent writing.

Conservatism is not dead. Conservatism is not unAmerican or anti-American. Conservatism lives in the founding documents of America. Conservatism was at the core of the Founders values and beliefs and they spoke of conservatism at great length, from the signing of the Declaration of Independence to the Constitutional Convention and in the creation and the approval of the US Constitution.

Conservatism is America.

The last line says it all.

California Republicans shouldn't shun our conservative foundations. We should champion those ideals as the solution to California's problems.

6 posted on 08/26/2003 10:27:42 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: ElkGroveDan
PING!

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7 posted on 08/26/2003 10:31:13 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: ElkGroveDan
What's the Party breakdown % in Ca, anyway?
8 posted on 08/26/2003 10:36:33 AM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: theDentist
What's the Party breakdown % in Ca, anyway?

I'll have to look it up somehting like 44-38-11, but the numbers are deceiving. People in CA don't really vote straight party line to the extent they do on the East Coast.

There are a lot of Dems, expecially in the Central Valley that vote pretty conservative. Legislative seats are considered safe when they hit 42% Rep, but Dems need 48% to be considered safe.

Finally, the turnout in this election is going to favor Republicans, skewing those numbers even further.

9 posted on 08/26/2003 10:40:04 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: theDentist
Republicans are at 35.2% and Democrats are at 44.2%

But you CAN NOT judge elections by registration numbers! In 1994--when Republicans in the Assembly won 9 seats, we took over congress (even here in California!)--Democrat registration was 49%. That means that Democrats have LOST 5% of their voters. (Republicans lost 1% since 1994.) Most of these have gone to DTS.

Republicans historically turn out in larger numbers than Democrats, except recently when Republicans have been disinclined to go to the polls because of un-inspiring candidates. Many of my conservative friends skipped the presidential ballot in 2000 (and I, for one, THANK GOD we had George Bush on 9/11 and not Al Gore.)

In this recall, who is motivated to vote? CONSERVATIVES. Will all these people jumping up and down with stars in the eyes actually make it to the polls on election day? I doubt it. Will people who vote against the recall vote for Cruz Bustamante? History says 30% will not vote at all on the second question.

The question is not what are the registration numbers and can Republicans win. The question is, will conservatives vote? If that answer is YES, we can not only dump Davis, but we can elect a conservative to replace him -- and he is Tom McClintock.
11 posted on 08/26/2003 11:19:33 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: ElkGroveDan
Great article, Dan. Thanks for the post & the ping.
12 posted on 08/26/2003 11:24:53 AM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thanks for the ping. Jim was a good mayor (I lived there during that time). I've met his wife and she is a very nice person.
13 posted on 08/26/2003 11:44:49 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Proud card carrying member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1984)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Bump!

The perky, obscure little document called the Declaration of Independence, especially the phrase about Americans being endowed by their Creator with rights that government could not take away - rights like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

14 posted on 08/26/2003 12:42:24 PM PDT by JustPiper ( "Free Republic" - The Greatest Information Truth Highway on the Internet!)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Gophack
Thanks Freeps! I was just curious.

I was in Mass. until last winter, and one thing I remember from there is that even though the GOP has held the Governorship since Pee Wee Dukakis' failed run, is that each Republican candidate must be a left-leaning RINO to get the office. Straight conservative values in such a state won't fly. The majority is just too liberal, and even the grass roots GOP is a bit left.

BTW: Last week I began re-reading "AT ANY COST" and "The Plot to Steal the Presidency", both books about the 2000 election and the Florida mess. I recommend reading them both (again if you already have). There were just so many tricks, twists, and turns that even years later I nearly perforated an ulcer from anger.

15 posted on 08/26/2003 12:48:32 PM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Good read BUMP!

If only Illinoians and New Yorkers would catch on!

16 posted on 08/26/2003 12:59:14 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: theDentist
each Republican candidate must be a left-leaning RINO to get the office. Straight conservative values in such a state won't fly

That's not true here. The moderates lose really badly in statewide elections, far worse than conservatives do.

17 posted on 08/26/2003 1:45:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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18 posted on 08/26/2003 7:24:06 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM (D) WHERE clue > 0 ................................................. 0 rows returned)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Bump for genuine conservatism.
19 posted on 08/26/2003 8:05:49 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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