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Alan Keyes: On the establishment of religion: What the Constitution really says
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| 08/26/2003
| Alan Keyes
Posted on 08/26/2003 9:26:03 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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Problems like this, left for very long without solution, raise the sombre spectre of national dissolution. This, the Congress has the constitutional means and duty to avoid. They should move to do so without delay. Hope Congress is listening.
To: Keyes2000mt
I'm thinking of getting something
like this to hang by my front door.
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:33:40 AM PDT
by
syriacus
(Schumer's in a MALE-ONLY group. It places Duty to God over ALL other duties.)
To: Keyes2000mt
Keyes bump! Oratory at its finest, whether one agrees with him or not (I do, usually). I have dreams of diagramming his sentences :-).
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:33:59 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
To: Keyes2000mt
"Hope Congress is listening." Oh, they're listening, and watching too. Problem is, they don't have anywhere near the virtue and courage to invoke their legislative powers as described in the U.S. Constitution, specifically Article III, Section 2, which states:
"In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make".
As the Chinese curse goes, "May you live in interesting times". We most certainly do.
Thomas Jefferson saw the voracious tendencies of government when he stated "It is the natural order for government to grow and freedom to wane". In 1821, he also stated "When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated".
We're there, folks.
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:36:28 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
("Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe." - H.G. Wells)
To: Keyes2000mt
The First Amendment to the Constitution plainly states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..." Since there can be no federal law on the subject, there appears to be no lawful basis for any element of the federal government including the courts to act in this area. BUMP!
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:36:45 AM PDT
by
Aquamarine
(When you come close to sellin' out reconsider.)
To: Keyes2000mt
WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:39:12 AM PDT
by
.45MAN
(And now that your here! Look where you are....)
To: dansangel
PING
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:39:40 AM PDT
by
.45MAN
(And now that your here! Look where you are....)
Selective states rights BBT
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:40:16 AM PDT
by
steve50
(You can't put Constitutional protections in a lockbox, repeal the Patriot Act)
To: Keyes2000mt
Thanks for the post - this is a keeper!
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:45:11 AM PDT
by
Nephi
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: Keyes2000mt
It's a shame many freepers don't understand states' rights. This is precisely the reason local control of government causes the least friction. The Founders understood it, and de Tocqueville saw it in action and documented it.
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:50:49 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(When does the next Crusade start?)
To: AAABEST; Abundy; Uncle Bill; billbears; Victoria Delsoul; Fiddlstix; fporretto; Free Vulcan; ...
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:52:20 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(When does the next Crusade start?)
To: Keyes2000mt
It seems to me that the meaning of the Constitution is dependent upon how it's interpreted. Who, then, has the final word in how it is interpreted?
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posted on
08/26/2003 9:57:08 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
To: Keyes2000mt
"We have already seen that the actual language of the Constitution does not forbid an establishment of religion. Rather, it forbids Congress to legislate on the subject at all, reserving it entirely to the states. No language in the 14th Amendment deals with this power of government."
-keyes-
This comment above is an absolute lie and Alan Keyes knows better, bump.
I'll be back.
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:00:07 AM PDT
by
tpaine
( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
To: stuartcr
Thomas Jefferson: "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p 322
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:01:22 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(When does the next Crusade start?)
To: stuartcr
The SCOTUS has the final word on interpretation of the constitution, however, they refused to hear this case.
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:01:51 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: Keyes2000mt
BTTT!
To: Keyes2000mt
bump for later read
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:04:31 AM PDT
by
Badray
(Molon Labe!)
To: Congressman Billybob
It looks like Alan Keyes may have read your article on the "solution".
Either that, or he read the Constitution.
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:04:40 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: stuartcr
The Constitution is a fairly short document, and is not beyond the comprehension of any educated person. The assumption that many make is that it is too complicated for any but legal experts (read lawyers) to interpret. These people are then willing to accept the most ridiculous and improbable pronouncements from supposed experts, known as the members of the Supreme Court.
As we have seen in the past, the Supremes have political agendas and will impose these agendas on the people if they are allowed to get away with it.
The answer to your question is: the final arbiters of the Constitution, as well as every law, are the people. It is the Supreme Court, not just the legislature that reads the election returns.
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:10:07 AM PDT
by
moneyrunner
(I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
To: syriacus
Excellent, AND the Correct wording for VI!
FMCDH
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posted on
08/26/2003 10:12:47 AM PDT
by
nothingnew
(The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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