France: No proof Hamas and Islamic Jihad are terror groups

Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/25/03 | Jerusalem Post

[Elkiejg]

France voices objections to placing Hamas and Islamic Jihad on the European Union's list of terror organizations, ynet reported Monday.

Diplomatic advisor to President Chirac, Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, is quoted to have said to the Israeli ambassador in France, Nissim Zvilli, that there is no proof that these two organizations are terror groups. "If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand," said Gordo. "However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

Over the weekend, Zvilli met with Gordo, said to be Chirac's right-hand man, as part of Israeli lobbying efforts to include the two Palestinian organizations on the EU terror list. Two months ago, the EU added the Al Aksa Martyrs' Brigades and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestinian to its list, enabling European countries to freeze these groups' assets, and impose other sanctions upon them.

France, according to Gordo, is opposed to placing both Hamas and Islamic Jihad on the EU terror list, and believes Israel ought to deal with its terror threats through political, rather than military, channels.

Israeli Foreign Ministry officials expressed outrage at the French position. "Such an attitude is one of criminal negligence. It refuses to assume responsibility over the war against terror, and thus legitimizes terrorism."

[Alter Kaker]

I am afraid that the Yerushalam Post, a newspaper for which I hold the utmost esteem, is wrong.

The Union European have declared the Arab Terrorists to be outlaws years ago. Even France has been of help to us in obtaining several of the Arabs.

The following organizations have been outlawed, according to official Union European documents on EURLEX:

*- Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
*- Euskadi Ta Askatasuna/Tierra Vasca y Libertad/Basque Fatherland and Liberty (E.T.A.)
(The following organisations are part of the terrorist group E.T.A.: K.a.s., Xaki; Ekin, Jarrai-Haika-Segi, Gestoras pro-amnistía.)
*- Grupos de Resistencia Antifascista Primero de Octubre/Antifascist Resistance Groups First of October (G.R.A.P.O.)
- Hamas-Izz al-Din al-Qassem (terrorist wing of Hamas)
*- Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)
*- Orange Volunteers (OV)
- Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
*- Real IRA
*- Red Hand Defenders (RHD)
*- Revolutionary Nuclei/Epanastatiki Pirines
*- Revolutionary Organisation 17 November/Dekati Evdomi Noemvri
*- Revolutionary Popular Struggle/Epanastatikos Laikos Agonas (ELA)
*- Ulster Defence Association/Ulster Freedom Fighters (UDA/UFF)

[SJackson]

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[bitcon]

They wouldn't need a guerilla war. At some point in time they could win a election and then these fundamentalists would have acces to nuclear weapons. They would be allowed to possess these as the non-proliferation treaty only allows countries that had nuclear weapons before a certain date (I can't remeber the date or year) to have them. And the Dems say we dont need missile defence.

[Alter Kaker]

If you read official Union European documents of 27 Dec 2001, etc. you find that Islamic Jihad is described as terrorist.

[Alouette]

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Do these Frogs understand exactly what the word 'jihad' means?!

Hey Pierre! Gimme a Freepin' break, please.

[Alter Kaker]

A finstere cholem auf dein kopf und auf dein hent und fiss.

[The Other Harry]

Somehow I don't think I will be vacationing in France anytime soon.

[PatrioticAmerican]

They must have got a threatening letter and have now surrendered without a shot fired.

[Alouette]

A finstere cholem auf dein kopf und auf dein hent und fiss.

"A dark dream on your head and on your hands and feet."

WTF is THAT supposed to mean, "Old S##T?" Or don't you understand Yiddish?

[Real Cynic No More]

Any chance Rummy can spare a division to get the job done??

Why waste a Division? Isn't a platoon ample?

[Alter Kaker]

This article conforms with American distrust of the French, a sentiment we share, but does not echo reality. Europe needs to outlaw all Hamas and also Fatah/Al-Aksa and further to close extreme religious schools/mosques in France Germany UK Netherlands Sweden and Italy, but in theory militant wing of Hamas and Islamic Jihad are forbidden. In a number of instances, France and Germany have proven very cooperative in addressing terrorists.

[Publius6961]

BUMP

[Alter Kaker]

I made a joke with common expression. My humble apologies. I can read and understand Yiddish, but I have problems speaking it. I should concentrate on English first, I think. No?

[OldFriend]

LOL..Baghdad Bob lives.....in France.

[PhilipFreneau]

France: No proof Hamas and Islamic Jihad are terror groups

United States: No proof France is sane

[Blood of Tyrants]

Only the Frogs.

[dennisw]

Froggy scum. Whata country!

[ClancyJ]

Who would have thought it? Wonder how they justify a bombing of a bus with men, women, children burned and torn apart because some Jew hater decided to show them?

Wonder if that is how they would handle the slaughter of their women and children by a suicide bomber?

Guess we can assume that France is backing the Hamas efforts, supplying bomb materials. Guess we now add France to the list.

[Alter Kaker]

Guess we can assume that France is backing the Hamas efforts, supplying bomb materials

France looks other way but does not support Hamas. They even move away from backing Arafat and PLO terrorists if we can further help Mazen survive. But Mazen may be already failure.