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IBM dismisses OpenOffice as child's play
TheRegister | 8-24-2003 | Ashlee Vance

Posted on 08/24/2003 3:46:46 PM PDT by Coral Snake

IBM dismisses OpenOffice as child's play By Ashlee Vance in Chicago Posted: Ashlee Vance at 02:26 GMT

IBM claims to have put more than $1 billion behind open source software, but the company is failing to pay even a modest amount of lip service to one of free software's most needed products.

Karen Smith, vice president of Linux strategy and market development at IBM, has been telling a number of publications that no open source equivalent of Microsoft Office exists. Lest you think Smith has been living in a cave, rest easy. She does appear to be acquainted with OpenOffice and its StarOffice incarnation from Sun Microsystems. These suites, however, are not good enough for IBM.

"What we haven't seen become available is a full replacement for Microsoft Office," Smith told ComputerWire.

Smith's comment points to an obvious fact - neither OpenOffice nor StarOffice have all the bells and whistles of Microsoft's suite. As caretaker of IBM's market development, however, she should see the need for promoting the open source products as a market creating opportunity for the Linux community as a whole.

The OpenOffice code has been downloaded more than 25 million times, and large OEMs such as Sony and Fujitsu-Siemens are shipping the suite with their PCs. The software's success helps out a valuable part of the Linux developer community and is key to making Linux on the desktop a reality for everyday PC users.

IBM's Linux aspirations sit on the server as opposed to the desktop. The company's PC business is hardly thriving, but what's left of it is centered around Microsoft. In that context, bashing OpenOffice makes some sense.

In a larger context, however, IBM's decision to take a pro-Microsoft stance on the desktop doesn't jibe with its billion dollar actions. Smith has been traveling the world for some time, extolling the virtues of Linux to a wide audience. She is the queen of hippies in the Peace, Love and Linux camp.

Smith tells Computer Business that IBM is taking a portal-based approach to delivering desktop functionality for end users. The kicker here is that Global Services will play a large role in customizing the desktop, messaging and collaboration apps for each customer. Is this IBM creating a fleet of custom desktops when a standard already exists?

IBM's approach is vastly different to that of relative Linux late-comer Sun. Sun is set to release its Mad Hatter desktop and Mad Hatter Management Server next month. With Mad Hatter, Sun has taken the best bits of the open source world, including the StarOffice productivity suite, GAIM messaging client and Evolution for mail and calendaring. Guess what? Mad Hatter desktops will connect into IBM's own Lotus Notes too.

What does Sun think of IBM's dismissal of OpenOffice?

"I think that is pretty funny coming from a company that led the office suite revolution with Lotus 123," said Peder Ulander *, a director of marketing at Sun. "That product basically doesn't exist anymore. They had their shot at the office suite and didn't make it."

Sun is using Mad Hatter to take aggressive pricing shots at Microsoft but is not being over-zealous about the potential markets it hopes to serve. The company is going after customers that employ a large number of workers to do relatively fixed-function tasks. Bells and whistles are not required.

As Ulander points out, these customers will need servers to manage all of their PCs, messaging, etc, which opens a nice non-Microsoft hardware sale for vendors. IBM could easily get behind this approach.

Linux on the mainframe might be interesting to a few customers, but it's not the OS's future. If IBM wants it's Linux investment to keeping paying off, the vendor should push solid open source achievements instead of plugging Microsoft where it's convenient.

OpenOffice helps keep Linux in the public eye and keeps it creeping toward consumers' desktops. This is good for the Linux community and good for IBM. ®

* Ulander arrived at Sun, as part of the company's $2 billion Cobalt acquisition. This gives him a nice track record of working with Linux and making it easy for average folks to use. It's hard to measure exactly what proportion of the massive $2 billion fee Ulander accounts for, but we reckon it's a big chunk. The servers certainly didn't pull their weight.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: hahaha; ibm; linux; linuxonthedesktop; microsoftoffice; msoffice; officesuite; openoffice; sun; sunmicrosystems; wetoldyouso; withoutextracrap
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To: dfrussell
What they could actually use is someone who understands the technology and wasn't promoted because she happened to be a convenient number on a chart somewhere.

Dude, I've met some women that could run circles around you, technology-wise. I'd be careful about making such generalizations.
21 posted on 08/26/2003 5:51:51 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Dude, I've met some women that could run circles around you, technology-wise. I'd be careful about making such generalizations.

:-)

22 posted on 08/27/2003 8:41:16 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: Coral Snake
umm fine so IBM only wanted a fre lunch, with the GPL I dont care why you may contribute because now its open..
23 posted on 08/27/2003 8:48:46 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Bush2000
WOuld you care to mention any of those missing functions? I use both MS office and Open-Office on the same documents between two different computers..
24 posted on 08/27/2003 8:52:10 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
How about grammar and spell-checking, for one?
25 posted on 08/27/2003 6:04:40 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Umm OO has both of those features, want to try again?
26 posted on 08/27/2003 7:14:11 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
Umm OO has both of those features, want to try again?

No, you're talking about the beta -- I'm talking about their released product that people actually buy and deploy. And that version most certainly does not have spell- and grammar-checking.
27 posted on 08/27/2003 7:27:54 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
And even OO 1.1 RC3 doesn't have grammar checking. See for yourself: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/1.1rc3/features.html
28 posted on 08/27/2003 7:32:04 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
1.1 is no longer a Beta (http://www.openoffice.org/product/writer.html)
it is released with many distro's, beside a GPL beta is as goog as a MS release in terms of stability. 1.1 also has native export to PDF something word lacks.. If youre going to speak on something know what you are talking about..
29 posted on 08/27/2003 8:51:25 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Bush2000
Those are New and special features, You're free to add words and phrases to the AutoCorrect dictionary, which can check your spelling as you type.

It does not mention you can chage font size or type so I guess you can do that either...

30 posted on 08/27/2003 8:56:54 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
1.1 is no longer a Beta ... it is released with many distro's...

Now, you're either lying or you don't know what you're talking about. Go to http://www.openoffice.org/. Notice the words: "OpenOffice.org 1.1 RC3 is Free". Do you know what RC stands for? That means "Release Candidate"; in other words, BETA. Sure, a lot of people run BETA software. But BETA software is rarely, if ever, deployed within organizations. My point stands.
31 posted on 08/27/2003 9:38:01 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: N3WBI3
Those are New and special features, You're free to add words and phrases to the AutoCorrect dictionary, which can check your spelling as you type.

Oh, great. So, in other words, it doesn't work -- because no user in his or her right mind is going to do that.
32 posted on 08/27/2003 9:39:00 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Nooo, you can have it do things the MS way (underline), autocorrect, or turn it off. This is what happens when you dont use something and then try to slam it Bush2k, you have no clue about that which you speak..
33 posted on 08/28/2003 5:58:47 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Old Student
Until then, and despite my "C:/Dos C:/Dos/Run Run/Dos/Run" T-shirt

Have you seen the "See Colon Enter" T-shirt? :-)

34 posted on 08/28/2003 6:05:34 AM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: N3WBI3
Nooo, you can have it do things the MS way (underline), autocorrect, or turn it off. ..

Dude, again you're blowing smoke. OO's autocorrect fixes spelling errors -- it doesn't fix grammatical/structural errors like MS Word. Nice try. No cigar.
35 posted on 08/28/2003 1:46:55 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
it doesn't fix grammatical/structural errors like MS Word..

And I hate that, too...;-)

36 posted on 08/28/2003 1:53:47 PM PDT by TomServo ("It says that one time this big lobster came and attacked a lady, but Mr. Ed saved her.")
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To: TomServo
Sheesh. All this complaining about a free product. If it doesn't meet your needs, then either don't use it or pitch in and improve it, for crying out loud! The people working on this are mostly volunteers, and OpenOffice is a relatively new project. Improvements will take time.
37 posted on 08/28/2003 2:02:35 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher
Sheesh. All this complaining about a free product.

I was talking about OO. I was talking about Word.

38 posted on 08/28/2003 2:06:08 PM PDT by TomServo ("It says that one time this big lobster came and attacked a lady, but Mr. Ed saved her.")
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To: TomServo
I wasn't talking about OO...sheesh - fat fingers.
39 posted on 08/28/2003 2:09:05 PM PDT by TomServo ("It says that one time this big lobster came and attacked a lady, but Mr. Ed saved her.")
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To: Bush2000
No OO **CAN** do autocorrect, or underline errors I guess as **YOU DONT USE IT** Ill have to show you

As for the grammar, youre right on that one OO does not have it, I did not notice because I turn it off in word, thats hardly a make or break feature, as even the MS implimentation is not 100% it always pays to proofread..

40 posted on 08/28/2003 2:22:15 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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