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'Made in U.S.A.' label harder to find as jobs move overseas
al.com ^ | 8/24/03 | cp124

Posted on 08/24/2003 7:03:07 AM PDT by cp124

Many won't be back; take shopping cart and check out why

07/20/03

By LEE ROOP Times Features Editor lroop@htimes.com

Two people walked into a Huntsville Wal-Mart last week on a challenge: Spend $400 on products made in America.

Two people walked out of Wal-Mart one hour later after randomly checking 40-plus items. Only 10 were made in the USA.

It isn't just Wal-Mart, America's largest retailer. Imported goods line shelves elsewhere, too. But what that means for American workers is the subject of a new economic debate.

"It's a huge issue," Wal-Mart spokesman Bill Wertz agreed Friday, confirming the import trend. "Customers are looking for value ... we try to stock what our customers want to buy."

New Hampshire economist Russ Thibeault threw out the Wal-Mart challenge July 10 on "Marketplace," an award-winning public radio show about the economy.

"Take a trip into your local Wal-Mart and spend your tax refund check on stuff that will generate U.S. jobs," Thibeault said in a commentary. "Chances are your shopping cart will be pretty empty when you get to the checkout counter."

Thibeault was discussing the strange fact that America's economy has been out of recession for well over a year, yet it continues to lose jobs. The National Bureau of Economic Research said Thursday that 1 million jobs have been lost during this recovery.

Many of those jobs aren't coming back, Thibeault thinks, despite tax cuts and strong consumer spending. They aren't coming back because they've moved overseas.

Hence, the Wal-Mart challenge.

Walking into Wal-Mart with a Times reporter was Randall Collier, 37, of Rogersville. Since 1987, Collier's primary business has been buying industrial sewing machines from plants closing here and shipping them to new plants in countries such as Peru.

"For every machine I sell," Collier said Wednesday, "there goes another American job."

Collier is promoting a new venture. He's trying to establish the USASells.com Website to give consumers a place to find American-made products.

"I don't know of one product we don't make," Collier said. "But if people don't start (buying here) now, they won't have a job themselves."

The Wal-Mart challenge was to spend the check coming soon to all American families with children. Congress this year increased the tax credit for raising children by $400 per child, and the money will be "advanced" to taxpayers in the form of checks beginning in a few weeks. The minimum check for a family with one child is $400.

Inside this typical Wal-Mart, clothes greet customers first. Clothes for the new school year would be a logical purchase with any cash windfall.

Virtually every brand is made overseas, including those with strong American images.

Levis jeans: Made in Cambodia.

Faded Glory shirts: Bangladesh.

Hanes underwear: Pakistan. Fruit of the Loom underwear: Honduras and El Salvador.

In the infant section, Cosco infant child seats are made in America, but Cosco playpens are made in China. Many companies seem to have one foot over the border.

A Disney "Winnie the Pooh" bear for baby? Made in China.

Fisher-Price diaper bag? China.

New shoes would be nice for fall.

Dr. Scholls? Made in China. Starter sneakers? China. Faded Glory sandals? China.

Curiously, America still makes the shoe strings and cushion insoles.

"Can we mention these?" Collier says, holding up a Murina brand T-shirt. It's a rare brand made in America.

"See these? These are Tee-Jays," Collier says. "They were in Florence, had 2,000 employees. They sold out. They're made in the Dominican Republic now."

The pattern continues across the store.

Foster Grant reading glasses? China.

Silk flowers? "All China now," Collier says. "They have a major distributing center in Haleyville."

Fabrics? India. China. Some are printed in America on imported fabric.

Rubbermaid and Igloo coolers? Made in the U.S.A.

Zebco fish fryers? El Salvador.

Rawlings baseball gloves? U.S.A.

Wilson, Prince and Head tennis rackets? China.

Black & Decker drills? Assembled in China.

Stanley hammers? Mexico.

Murray lawn tractors? The first in a line outside the Wal-Mart was made in Lawrenceburg, Tenn. The second? "Assembled in Lawrenceburg, Tenn."

Wal-Mart spokesman Wertz said the retailer stocks American items and regional favorites where it can. An Alabama example is Chilton County peaches, he said.

Wal-Mart also helps producers of American products like Denver's Orange Glow cleaner by selling that product in Wal-Mart stores abroad, Wertz said. The company has a special office devoted to that effort.

What economists wonder now is whether an up-and-down cycle of imports and exports has become a steady downward trend.

Collier estimates more than 5,000 textile and manufacturing jobs have left the Shoals area since the economy went global.

"And when (laid-off workers) went on unemployment, they went to the cheapest place they could to shop," he said. "They took their unemployment checks and went to Wal-Mart."


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To: dogbyte12
Agreed.

WalMart has gone downhill a lot since Sam died and most of what they sell is crap.

I have one of those Super K-Marts near me and normally use it now rather than WalMart.

21 posted on 08/24/2003 8:08:18 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: dfrussell
"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains." --Thomas Jefferson
22 posted on 08/24/2003 8:08:44 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: fhayek
Either we believe in free-market capitalism or we don'tShort answer, we don't. We tamed capitalism in the late 1800 earlier 1900 with numberious laws to prevent capitalism from running amock and reduces all be a few to slave status. Looks like we are back in the unrestrained capitalist world of the 1890's. Only this time on a global scale without the ability to control via laws the brutal nature of a real capitalist system.
23 posted on 08/24/2003 8:12:52 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Hacksaw
I was just at a job fair in Pittsburgh, and the US Army had a table set up. They were giving away freebies, so I got a US Army key chain. On the plastic wrapper was a label that said made in China. I pointed it out to the recruiter and he said I wasn't the first one to make a comment.

Remember the Army Black Beret fiasco a few years back?

To add insult to injury, the black berets were also made in places like China etc.

24 posted on 08/24/2003 8:14:27 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: cp124
I am self-employed. My husband & I import the product we sell. It is less expensive to build our product in China and ship it to America (even with duty added) than have it made in America.

We have excellent quality and excellent prices.

We also use Mexican help in our warehouse. We tried using US workers but they bitched and moaned when they actually had to work. Most never showed up a second day. Some stole from us. The US labor we used felt the work was beneath them. We have had the same Mexican workers for over a year now. They are hard workers who at times we need to convince to take a break. They are grateful for the pay and are always willing to do extra.

25 posted on 08/24/2003 8:18:24 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: jpsb
Yeah, government control of the economy has set us all free. /sarcasm. I just don't buy it. I just don't trust politicians to make macro-economic decisions for us. What I buy should be my decision.
26 posted on 08/24/2003 8:21:50 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Republican Red
Did you just admit that you hire illegal aliens?
27 posted on 08/24/2003 8:22:32 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll

China is most definitely not engaging in free trade, they have tariffs and are manipulating the market and devaluing the Yuan 40%. Besides this they use slave labor.

I agree that China's trade practices are unfair, however, the US is regulating itself to death already. Overregulation is the reason why our products are produced outside the US.

28 posted on 08/24/2003 8:23:03 AM PDT by Sparta (Sending the UN back to Iraq is like sending the Taliban back to Afghanistan)
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To: StolarStorm
No. They have papers.
29 posted on 08/24/2003 8:23:23 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: Republican Red
But you don't really believe that the papers are legit do you? I know where I live papers are easy to come by. Every flea market sells them.

There really needs to be a crackdown on illegal documentation.
30 posted on 08/24/2003 8:27:05 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
We know these guys are legit. One actually has a duel citizanship (born in US at age 2). Taxes are paid and everything.
31 posted on 08/24/2003 8:30:48 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: fhayek
. If other countries can make products cheaper than the United States can (because of cheap labor), ...

It's not just the cheap labor. It's the overall cost of doing business. The labor is only one factor and, by itself, is not the cause of the job loss.

The overal economic and regulatory climate in the United States is becoming hostile (anywhere from moderately to vehemently) to productive business in general and manufacturing in specific.

32 posted on 08/24/2003 8:40:38 AM PDT by templar
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To: Republican Red
"We also use Mexican help in our warehouse. We tried using US workers but they bitched"

Well, if they aren't illegal then they ARE US workers. So really, maybe you've discovered that people from certain cultural backgrounds, which lack a work ethic, are the problem. We have so many welfare and entitlement programs here that multi-generational welfare family members don't make good workers. Anything you can pay them for warehouse work can't match what they get from the government. If we ended welfare, you would find that the quality of workers would go up dramatically. So once again, we can claim that government CAUSED the problems that we are all facing.
33 posted on 08/24/2003 8:43:53 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Republican Red
Since you brought it up, what's the average annual wage for your warehouse employees?....and are there any additional tangible benefits?
34 posted on 08/24/2003 8:45:26 AM PDT by cadillac cowboy (lifelong tax slave)
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To: StolarStorm
So really, maybe you've discovered that people from certain cultural backgrounds, which lack a work ethic, are the problem

I would absolutely agree!
35 posted on 08/24/2003 8:47:10 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: templar
I agree. We burden business with taxation, unionism, regulations, employee benefits, etc. And then we blame these sames businesses for seeking ways to compete in the marketplace.
36 posted on 08/24/2003 8:48:09 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: judywillow
...we need to start doing a better job of deciding which industries to keep, and which it would be counterproductive to try to keep.

IMO, we need to keep every industry that is vital to our strategic national interests. Even if we have to subsidize them somehow. Otherwise, our life, our survival, as a nation becomes dependant on the benevolence of our enemies and potential enemies.

37 posted on 08/24/2003 8:55:39 AM PDT by templar
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To: Sparta
Are you aware that your tax money is being used by our government to enable and encourage our corporations to offshore? It is being done under OPIC and the Export-Import Bank. OPIC underwrites the risks associated with doing business in 3rd world countries. Without this insurance these corporations would be forced to find much more expensive backing for their ventures. Instead, we are backing it. And, when something goes wrong, like a little terrorism that burns down the IBM building in Hyderabad, we will pay for it.
Overregulation may cause a business in California to decide to go to Nevada, which is fine, and hopefully will teach California a lesson.
But, it is our Congress failing to "regulate commerce" appropriately, and instead allowing the WTO to dictate America's trade policies that is a larger problem.
The once American corporations that are now multi-national corporations should not benefit from the advantages of an American corporation. American sweat and blood made the safe haven for business to flourish. It is not right for Americans to be swept aside due to the short-sighted greed of a handful of CEOs. It is national suicide.
38 posted on 08/24/2003 8:56:49 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: cp124
'Silk flowers? "All China now," Collier says. "They have a major distributing center in Haleyville."'

All silk flowers are made by Chinese Laogai prisioners in slave concentration camps.
39 posted on 08/24/2003 8:57:54 AM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: fhayek
The USA may have come full circle in terms of free trade vs. tarrifs. Many industries are dead here. With the export of white collar jobs nothing has replaced them. This leaves us with the need to protect infant start up industries. One of the way to do that is through tarrifs.
40 posted on 08/24/2003 9:05:20 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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