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Illegals busting education budget
WND ^ | 8-24-03 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 08/24/2003 3:58:57 AM PDT by JustPiper

COMING TO AMERICA

$7.4 billion expense hurting American kids, group says

An immigration reform group says in a new study it costs states more than $7.4 billion a year to educate illegal aliens, with budget-busted California spending more than any other.

Worse, warns the Federation for American Immigration Reform report, the extra expenditures are taking funds away from American children at a time when "public schools throughout the country are facing some of the most significant decreases in state education funding in decades."

Many Mexican children cross into U.S. from Mexico daily to go to school. (Jon Dougherty/WND photo)

"With state budgets in crisis and children taking the hit, communities' limited tax dollars are being diverted to accommodate mass illegal immigration," said the report. "In some states, the amount of money spent to educate illegal alien children accounts for a substantial portion of the state budget shortfall; in New Jersey, for instance, it accounts for 28 percent of the total state budget deficit."

FAIR says almost two-thirds of states either have cut back or proposed reductions in their child care and early childhood programs.

"In some states, drastic cuts mean lay-offs for teachers, larger class sizes, fewer textbooks, and eliminating sports, language programs and after-school activities," the report noted.

The total cost, FAIR says, is "enough to buy a computer for every junior high student nationwide."

Other immigration reformists have said the cost of providing education and other public services to illegals has steadily been on the rise.

Adding to those costs, says Jim Boulet, Jr., head of English First, a group pushing English as the nation's official language, are translation costs to schools that must hire interpreters for Spanish-only immigrant students.

Plus, Boulet told WorldNetDaily, "Cuban Spanish, Puerto Rican Spanish, Chicano Spanish, and additional forms of Spanish all exist within the borders of the U.S., creating vast potential for cross-cultural confusion" and, of course, extra expense, despite "California being an official English state."

According to the FAIR report, California spends the most – $2.2 billion – to educate illegal immigrant children. Ranking second and third, respectively, are Texas and New York.

FAIR analysts said each state's per-pupil expenditure was reported by the U.S. Department of Education. The group said it based its figures on the Urban Institute's estimate of 1.1 million school-aged illegal immigrant children currently residing in the U.S.

The report also says there are efforts underway in several states and Congress to allow illegal aliens to pay deeply discounted, in-state tuition rates at public colleges and universities – rates not available to American citizens from out of state.

"As states cut school funding left and right, all of our children – native-born and immigrants alike – are receiving a poorer education as a result of the federal government passing its immigration law enforcement failures on to the states," the report concluded. "The implications for the coming generations of workers, our future economy and our long-term competitiveness in the world cannot be ignored."

Supporters of immigration say the cost to educate immigrant children – legal or otherwise – is a non-issue.

"Regardless of what the dollar figure is, these children have a right to an education," Jim Ferg-Cadima, legislative staff lawyer at the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, told The Washington Times. "The issue was litigated all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court decided on the issue."

In the high court's 1982 decision, Plyler v. Doe, justices said in a 5-4 decision the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment forbade public schools from prohibiting any children, regardless of citizenship status, an education.

Other supporters say the cost of educating illegals is minimal compared to the overall $700 billion annual cost of public education. And, they say it is the nation's best interests to educate illegal alien children rather than ignore them.

Still, the costs are continuing to rise and they come at a time when more Americans have become fed up with providing benefits to illegal immigrants.

An Aug. 30, 2001, Harris Interactive poll found 60 percent of Americans opposed a new plan to grant illegals amnesty.

"By decisive margins, the American public believes that illegal immigration is a net drain on public resources and that granting amnesty to illegal immigrants will encourage even more people to migrate illegally," the survey said.

A RoperASW poll in March found three in four Americans would reduce the number of immigrants allowed into the country annually. Fifty-eight percent would limit legal immigration to 300,000 a year, and 85 percent viewed illegal immigration as a "serious" problem.

"Illegal immigration is no free lunch," Dan Stein, executive director of FAIR, told the Times. "It's about shifting burdens – lowering labor costs at a tremendous cost not only to American taxpayers but to American kids."

Mark Krikorian, head of the Center for Immigration Studies, said U.S. and state governments could reduce costs by enforcing laws on the books.

"The solution is to start enforcing the law – not just at the border, which is politically easy, but also inside the country," he told WorldNetDaily.

Added FAIR spokesman David Ray: "If illegal immigration is not stopped at the border, its negative consequences, including bankrupt emergency rooms and overcrowded schools, quickly become everyone's financial burden."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: budget; educate; education; government; illegals; immigration; mexifornia; muchomoney; spending
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To: Porterville
Uh, this thread is about illegals. Does that fit your description? It has nothing to do with the law-abiding Hispanics. Back off, hot head.
201 posted on 08/26/2003 9:02:16 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: CheneyChick
"What amazes me is the cultural erosion. The hypocrisy of the Mexicans. They are supposedly devout Catholics, thus the reproducing like bunnies, but that is where their catholicism begins and ends!"

What part of that post is about illegals??? Sure sounds like a blanket statement to me, regardless about what the stroy-line is about.

202 posted on 08/26/2003 9:09:17 AM PDT by Porterville
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To: All
New Story by another Freeper on Arizona
203 posted on 08/26/2003 9:11:25 AM PDT by JustPiper ( "Free Republic" - The Greatest Information Truth Highway on the Internet!)
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To: Porterville
If you are gonna quote something to argue with me, quote from the article itself or from one of my posts - not from someone else's post.

I can see that logic isn't one of your fortés.....
204 posted on 08/26/2003 9:18:56 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: goldstategop
Hell, if a student from a poorly performing district in my state sneaks into a higher performing district and the school authorities find out about it, that family is taken to court and forced to pay back tuition. Plus, the kid is thrown out of school.

We're talking American citizens here.
205 posted on 08/26/2003 9:20:49 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: CheneyChick
I appologize, I am doing multiple task and I clearly see that you were staying on topic about illegals and not all Hispanics... their is a poster in the room that calls folks like myself bunnies......... I miss read the name of the poster..
206 posted on 08/26/2003 9:23:55 AM PDT by Porterville
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To: Porterville
And I'm spelling stuff wrong today, what can you do??
207 posted on 08/26/2003 9:25:19 AM PDT by Porterville
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To: CheneyChick
Dude. Lay off the crack.

Get a brain.

208 posted on 08/26/2003 9:57:23 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: JustPiper
I'm not sure, I just sa the link on APatrol.com, haven't heard or read much else. I think it may be getting organized by stoptheinvasion.com
209 posted on 08/26/2003 6:03:03 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: JustPiper
BTTT, those links get people angry I'm sure.
210 posted on 08/26/2003 6:12:47 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Porterville
Reproducing like bunnies????

Doesn't Mexico have the highest rate of reproduction in the world? It's still not unusual to find a poverty stricken mother with 15 kids in Mexico, you see families of beggers, 8 little kids and another on the way quite often if you go to Mexican cities. Just today a man from Mexico was boasting about having 8 kids by three different women --- of course the kids are on Medicaid and food stamps.

211 posted on 08/26/2003 6:23:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: The Other Harry
As it was, some money got spread around. Not much, but some. It didn't hurt the ecomony. It didn't hurt anyone. And the juniper got removed.

I bet you aren't paying your illegal servants even minimum wage much less wages they can afford to buy health insurance with. Yes you are hurting the taxpayers to think you are entitled to cheap servants to make your beds and pull your weeds but pay them so little that the taxpayers must provide them food stamps and free health care. Slavery and coolie labor is a terrible economic system.

212 posted on 08/26/2003 6:26:07 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
On any day, literally everywhere, in the Ca's San Fernando valley you will see young pregnant mexican women with 4 or 5 kids in tow, asking for money.

And thousands more come every week.
213 posted on 08/26/2003 6:28:50 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Porterville
But before you make any assumptions about me --- both the doctors I use for my family are SW hispanics and each has 5 kids --- but they pay their way obviously. I think big families are great but only if the parents work to provide for them --- but what you see in Mexico is people having kids starting at 13 or 14 and forcing poverty on those kids --- unless they can make it to the USA and get US taxpayers to bail them out.
214 posted on 08/26/2003 6:29:44 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: The Other Harry
My ancestors fought for this country in the Revolutionary War.

Not all of our ancestors are immigrants.

Also, I would venture that family of immigrants also don't like illegal immigration when their own forefathers came legally.
215 posted on 08/26/2003 6:31:28 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: The Other Harry
Then they should come here legally. I have no sympathy for someone that breaks the law to come here.
216 posted on 08/26/2003 6:33:14 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: moehoward
You find them on many street corners here too --- birth control isn't part of their religion or the machismo culture but obviously abstinence isn't either. 42% of hispanic births now are to unwed mothers ---- that doesn't make the traditional moral hispanics any less moral obviously --- but a whole different type of people is moving in. Mexico has serious problems and they're coming over here.
217 posted on 08/26/2003 6:33:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: The Other Harry
So, I drove down to KMart and hired a couple of the day laborers who hang around out in the front. Two hours and $40 later, the bush was gone. A perfect job. Now, let's say $10 of that $40 went to buy quart bottles of cervaza. Another $5 went to buy gas for their beat up old car. $5 went to pay rent. The remaining $20 got sent back to Mexico.

This does sum it up well --- $0 for income taxes, $0 for school property taxes even with the 8 kids attending the school each year, $0 for health insurance, $0 for car insurance, $0 for the county hospitals and medical clinics, $0 for food.

218 posted on 08/26/2003 6:39:36 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: JustPiper
Well, my husband may be transferred to Colorado. I hope I get to vote for Tancredo.

Sam Johnson was my POW (remember POW bracelets). When I was 11, I met him after he came back from Vietnam. He was my hero. I think he is an upstanding guy, and I'm glad he is helping co-sponsor this legislation.
219 posted on 08/26/2003 6:42:57 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
My brother had Tancredo, this is a wonderful man. And how cool for you about Sam Johnson!
220 posted on 08/27/2003 9:10:29 AM PDT by JustPiper ( "Free Republic" - The Greatest Information Truth Highway on the Internet!)
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