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McClintock now has a clear field - - conservatives have one horse to ride!
churchillbuff ^ | AUG. 23, 03 | churchillbuff

Posted on 08/23/2003 11:35:49 AM PDT by churchillbuff

With Simon out, there's only one conservative in the race -- - McClintock's 1) the most experienced; 2) the most knowledgeable; 3) the one with the most well-articulated vision; 4) the one with Reagan-like CONVICTIONS (not convenient "opinions" adopted yesterday -- and subject to change tomorrow; 5) the one who's from the MIDDLE CLASS so he KNOWS that TAXES HURT -- he feels it in his bones, not through a focus group -- so we can trust him to keep his word.

NOTE: LYN NOFZIGER HAS JUST ENDORSED MCCLINTOCK!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; conservative; endorsement; lynnofziger; mcclintock; recall
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To: Dog Gone
The next governor of California must either raise taxes or cut spending.

And Arnold's spokesman this week hinted that Arnold will raise taxes. (Then he retracted - - but I'm believing what he said the first time)

121 posted on 08/23/2003 1:39:13 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Conservative Iowan
And lose...again.

But it's okay, you voted your "principles".

122 posted on 08/23/2003 1:39:36 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: jpsb
There is a good chance the recall will fail

I don't know where you get that. Davis has 20% support, and he'll be lucky to get all of them to the polls.

123 posted on 08/23/2003 1:40:24 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Whichever choice the new governor makes, he will be incredibly unpopular, and will be lucky to finish the remaining three years without recall. He will not be re-elected.

I agree totally.
I am convinced that McClintock is the "honest politician" who is willing to pay that price.

If he solves the current problem he has succeeded beyond the worst progressive nightmares.
If he also freezes state spending, he's my hero, no matter what else happens.

124 posted on 08/23/2003 1:40:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: sofaman
refuse to vote for him because of our "principles"

No, I refuse to vote for a tax-raising liberal because of my POCKETBOOK. I'm not a head-in-the-sky ideologue who votes on abstract principles. I'm a middle class Joe who CAN'T AFFORD MORE TAXES !!!! I can't afford them EVEN IF THEY'RE PILED ON BY SOMEBODY WHO CALLS HIMSELF A "REPUBLICAN" (as tax-hiker Pete Wilson did). So Arnold's new taxes will hurt me just as much as Cruz's new taxes. I'm voting McClintock not for "principles" but for SELF PROTECTION!!!!

125 posted on 08/23/2003 1:42:23 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Sir Valentino
Dear Sir:

As I am sure you are aware, there are 2 ways to vote.

#1. Vote your conscience. This is the principled way our Founding Fathers intended us to vote. Then, you get office-holders who represent "principled" positions, even if you disagree with them.

#2. Vote the way you expect other people to vote. This is the Hugh Hewitt, "pragmatist" way of thinking. This way you get "pragmatic" office-holders.

Sir: You are, obviously, a "pragmatist". Before you vote, you stick your finger in the wind and calculate your vote in relation as to how you think everybody else will vote. That's your right.

But, it is not a principled position.

And remember the simple slogan:

"Pragmatism Isn't"

126 posted on 08/23/2003 1:43:40 PM PDT by Precisian
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To: af_vet_1981
I refuse to vote for a tax-raising liberal because of my POCKETBOOK. I'm not a head-in-the-sky ideologue who votes on abstract principles. I'm a middle class Joe who CAN'T AFFORD MORE TAXES !!!! I can't afford them EVEN IF THEY'RE PILED ON BY SOMEBODY WHO CALLS HIMSELF A "REPUBLICAN" (as tax-hiker Pete Wilson did). So Arnold's new taxes will hurt me just as much as Cruz's new taxes. I'm voting McClintock not for "principles" but for SELF PROTECTION!!!!

127 posted on 08/23/2003 1:45:35 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Publius6961
And of course, yours is not.

You're right, it isn't. While Arnold may be lean left on social issues he's definitely a fiscal conservative. Alluding to that fact is anything but hypothetical.

Do you know what megalomania is?

Call it what you will. But to label him as such is to label any wealthy and/or well-known individual who exploits their celebrity or income to reach political office as the same.

Would you say that about Ronald Reagan? Sonny Bono? Fred Thompson? Yes, I suppose you would.

So be it.

128 posted on 08/23/2003 1:45:46 PM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: churchillbuff
...but I'm believing what he said the first time

Of course,you are.

The fact that Arnold said exactly the opposite, and that this putz amended his statement, of course, means nothing. You'll believe what you want to believe.

129 posted on 08/23/2003 1:46:47 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"I think Uberroth has to get out and throw his support to McClintock before McClintock has a chance."

Uberroth is a very centrist. He supported Feinstein, in the past. So if he were to drop out, he'd more likely endorse Arnold than McClintock, I suspect.

130 posted on 08/23/2003 1:46:49 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: churchillbuff
I'd be surprised if you, McClintock, or anyone else could put together a budget for California for next year without some increased taxes. The legislature is Rat-controlled, as you know, and getting them to cut off their core supporters will be tough.

My hunch is that there will be some tax increases, hopefully automatically limited in duration, or linked to some other external factor.

Maybe not. Maybe the next governor can balance the budget totally with spending cuts. But I doubt it. The population there has proven that it believes it's entitled to the proverbial free lunch.

131 posted on 08/23/2003 1:47:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: churchillbuff
You could look at it that way or you could look at it as McClintock will be next.
132 posted on 08/23/2003 1:48:19 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Wormwood
What Arnold SHOULD do is step down and name McC as his endorsed candidate.

Uh, it's not very likely that the guy who has 25% is going to step down and endorse the guy who has 5%. Even with Simon out of the race, if everyone who was supporting Simon voted for Tom he'd have only 9%.

133 posted on 08/23/2003 1:48:49 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: All
Ross Perot ...
134 posted on 08/23/2003 1:50:38 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: sofaman
You'll believe what you want to believe.

I believe what politicians and their chief advisors way in unguarded moments -- not what they say as damage control when their candid comments cause s-- to hit the fan.

If you're the type who swallows the scripted comments of politicians more than their candid, unscripted spasms of candor, then you're somebody who'd better stay away from bridge salesmen!

135 posted on 08/23/2003 1:51:45 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Thank you for your rant.

Arnold has said that he will not raise taxes.

uh uh uh! Yes, he did. George Bush 41 got suckered into the no new taxes pledge and he got creamed. Not going there again.

McClintock is nowhere in the polls. He has no shot at being elected. A vote for him is a vote taken from Arnold.

Result? Bustamante wins, and then you for sure WILL get your tax increase, Mr Pocketbook!

136 posted on 08/23/2003 1:51:58 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Publius6961
"Troll"? Very mature. Go ahead, vote for McClintock. Stand on principle. Be the man. But you can rest assured of the following:

1. McC will lose no matter what; and
2. If McC eats into Arnold's margin significantly, Cruz will win, and the Democrats rejoice.

There were a lot of "principled" people that thought voting for Perot wouldn't be a wasted vote. They were right. They weren't wasted. They swung many states to Clinton, and allowed 8 years of Democratic rule.
137 posted on 08/23/2003 1:53:19 PM PDT by Recourse
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To: Let's Roll
Ross Perot ...

No, Ronald Reagan. McClintock's views are most in tune with the Gipper's. It's Arnold who's the liberal spoiler in this race. He should get out and stop splitting the GOP and anti-Bustamante vote.

138 posted on 08/23/2003 1:53:37 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: doug from upland
Sorry Doug but Teddy won't let Arnold drop out.
139 posted on 08/23/2003 1:55:18 PM PDT by LuigiBasco
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To: Recourse
There were a lot of "principled" people that thought voting for Perot wouldn't be a wasted vote

There was nothing Principled about voting for Perot. What did he stand for ? Nothing -- he had no coherent positions or convictions. Gee - doesn't that remind you of Arnold?

McClintock, otoh, is the only bona fide Reaganite running, and he's a star when it comes to experience, articulateness, and knowledge of how to shrink the deficit without shrinking taxpayers' wallets!

140 posted on 08/23/2003 1:56:06 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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