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BILL SIMON DROPS OUT OF CAL. RACE (Fox News)
Fox News | August 23, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 08/23/2003 9:02:36 AM PDT by nwrep

Per FOX NEWS


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: astadidyoumeanhasta; astalavista; billsimon; bitesthedust; calgov2002; clearingthefield; firstofmany; hewontbeback; leavetomleave; misternopercent; recall; schwarzenrino; terminated; tomnexttogo; writewhenyoufindwork
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To: nwrep
I am surprised..... the Repubs want to win this
21 posted on 08/23/2003 9:10:25 AM PDT by rface (Ashland, Missouri - Freeping polls since 1998)
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To: prarie earth
Latest poll: Recall effort loses steam


CONTRA COSTA TIMES

Gov. Gray Davis received a surprising boost Friday when a new statewide poll showed California voters nearly evenly divided on whether to remove him from office.

The results suggest the governor might have benefited from his Tuesday night speech acknowledging his failings, defending his record and portraying the recall as "right-wing power grab."

His stepped-up public campaigning also might be swinging voter opinion toward him for the first time in the recall campaign.

Moreover, the survey results suggest the luster might have quickly come off the highly publicized candidacy of actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, the leading Republican seeking to replace Davis if he is unseated.

The numbers were released as Republicans tried to encourage some of their candidates to drop out and unify behind Schwarzenegger.

In sharp contrast to two prior surveys, the new Los Angeles Times poll shows that 50 percent of likely voters support the recall, while 45 percent oppose it.

The 5-point margin is much better news for Davis than the earlier Field Poll and the Public Policy Institute of California survey, which showed the recall ahead by more than 20 points.

"This is intriguing," said Henry Brady, director of UC Berkeley's Survey Research Center. "I think it's telling us that it's not over yet."

The Los Angeles Times survey of 801 likely voters was taken from Aug. 16 though Thursday. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Unlike the previous two polls, it covers the time period of Davis' speech. In contrast, Brady noted, the prior two polls "were taken when the feeding frenzy regarding Arnold Schwarzenegger was greatest."

Davis backers were pleased by the results, while the actor's campaign tried to downplay the poll.

"It puts the election in a whole different light," said Davis pollster and adviser Paul Maslin. "It's only a first step but we're starting to turn the momentum. Once that happens, we have a tremendous chance to beat this thing."

Schwarzenegger spokesman Sean Walsh noted that Davis' fellow party members have continued to signal they have strong reservations that the governor can beat the recall.

"I'm taking my cues from what the Democrats are doing," Walsh said. "Just look at all of the people jumping Gray Davis' sinking ship."

To be sure, comparison of polls from different survey organizations can produce skewed conclusions. Pollsters often use different assumptions about which voters are likely to turn out on Election Day.

In this unprecedented recall election, pollsters, like candidates, are struggling to figure out who will actually cast a ballot.

"If I were Gray Davis, I wouldn't be celebrating," Brady said. "But at least it looks like it might be a horse race."

At the same time, Republican nervousness about splitting the party vote prompted more pressure to narrow the field.

State Senate Minority Leader Jim Brulte, R-Rancho Cucamonga, said he might ask one of the four top GOP candidates to drop out. In addition to Schwarzenegger, the others are former baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth, businessman Bill Simon and state Sen. Tom McClintock of Thousand Oaks.

Simon said he felt no pressure to drop out, but acknowledged that the field could narrow. "I'm always open to talking to people. I do think the field will winnow down as time goes on," Simon told CNN.

Meanwhile, his supporters accused the state Republican Party of jettisoning a joint appearance of all the major candidates at next month's party convention in Los Angeles in order to showcase Schwarzenegger.

Republican Chairman Duf Sundheim acknowledged that organizers were inclined to offer each of the major Republican candidates a solo appearance at the convention, rather than a joint forum.

"We want to focus on issues that unite us -- and we thought that their appearing together would highlight the differences," Sundheim said. "We want to do what's in the best interest of the party."

The Lincoln Club of Orange County, which includes some of the state's most prolific Republican donors, endorsed Schwarzenegger on Friday and called on the other Republican candidates to abandon the race.

Any of the candidates who drop out of the race will remain listed on the two-part ballot.

Source

22 posted on 08/23/2003 9:10:38 AM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: prarie earth
now support for Recall has slipped to 50%-45% according to LA times poll this morning. But they acknowledge that pro-Recall voters are more energized.

Simon getting out is a good thing. It focuses the matchup between Arnold and McClintock. If Arnold keeps talking fiscal conservative he'll likely get McClintock to back out as well in a few more weeks.
23 posted on 08/23/2003 9:10:44 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Sen. Joe McCarthy helped win our death-match against the USSR- Pass it on!)
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To: nwrep
OK, McClintock, take the cue........

And Arnold will be in!
24 posted on 08/23/2003 9:11:06 AM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: prarie earth
Isn't the ballot non-partisian, i.e. not catagorized by party? Some California freeper must have the details.
25 posted on 08/23/2003 9:11:27 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Dog
Im not sure how accurate that new LA Times poll is, any number between 50 and 58 on recall 'yes' could be good right now.
26 posted on 08/23/2003 9:11:27 AM PDT by prarie earth
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To: prarie earth; Dog; Howlin
The LA Times Poll is the latest with the recall at a crap shoot.... But we need to see other polls such as follow ups on the Field Poll and PPIC poll to see if they are showing the same trend. The Times poll could be nothing more than a push poll.... we'll see....

44 DAYS..... not long for the lower tier to get their percentages up.
27 posted on 08/23/2003 9:11:39 AM PDT by deport (OCT 7, it cometh too soon for some... 44 Days)
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To: prarie earth
The pro recall voters will be more likely to make it to the polls. They are more energized, even if there are fewer of them.
28 posted on 08/23/2003 9:12:53 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Voltage
Isn't the ballot non-partisian, i.e. not catagorized by party? Some California freeper must have the details.

Yup, it is winner takes all. You could theoretically win wit 1% +1 vote, if nobody else is higher than 1%

29 posted on 08/23/2003 9:13:01 AM PDT by dogbyte12 (Let's Outsource CEO's to the Third World)
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To: RobFromGa
This announcement probably means that Mclintock is going to the end now..
30 posted on 08/23/2003 9:13:37 AM PDT by prarie earth
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To: Dog
That is an L.A. Times poll, done just before the weekend like the Field Poll last week. Probably a push-poll. Just a couple of days ago they were still saying the latest numbers remained around 60%.
31 posted on 08/23/2003 9:13:56 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: deport
The odds in Vegas are that Davis is history

Also is the LA poll likely voters? probably not
32 posted on 08/23/2003 9:14:22 AM PDT by woofie
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To: RobFromGa
The extreme left leanings of the LA Clymes are well documented. If the best lie they can come up with is this poll, then in reality, the number is more like 70% for / 30% against.

Davis is toast.
33 posted on 08/23/2003 9:14:38 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (Thunder makes all the noise; lightning gets the job done)
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To: nwrep
While I think Simon's act was definately the right thing to do, I like the guy and am sorry it had to come to this. And yes, it had to come to this.

Bill, thank you. I think you did the right thing. All the best to you and your lovely family.
34 posted on 08/23/2003 9:14:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: woofie
Latest Polls

Poll
Recall Davis - YES
Recall Davis - NO
RCP Average
55.3%
39.3%
50%
45%
58%
36%
58%
37%
69%
26%
54%
35%

35 posted on 08/23/2003 9:14:56 AM PDT by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: nwrep
As I predicted yesterday, both Simon and McClintock will be out of the race by Labor Day. One down, one to go. As for the LA Times poll, it's about as believable as any coming from a liberal rag.
36 posted on 08/23/2003 9:15:02 AM PDT by medscribe
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To: Voltage
Didnt Diane Feinstein say she wasnt going to vote on the recall?
37 posted on 08/23/2003 9:15:02 AM PDT by prarie earth
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To: kellynla
Right, now there is a clear choice.

What do the Republicans want?

A far-left lib RINO like Arnold or a REAL conservative??

Time will tell...

38 posted on 08/23/2003 9:15:03 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: dogbyte12
My prediction in the Cal governor's race -

Republican vote will be split, oddball candidates will take a few votes, and Buttmunchamonte will be elected.

Is this what I want - of course not. McClintock would probably be the best medicine for California - unfortunately, he's too conservative to get elected (my humble opinion). Terminator represents the GOP's best odds for winning the election, but he's really a liberal with a more moderate fiscal viewpoint.
39 posted on 08/23/2003 9:15:12 AM PDT by TheBattman
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To: prarie earth
"Huffington is running as an Independent, right?" correctomundo... she traded her SUV in for a riding in a private jet(when it's going my way...yea right!)
40 posted on 08/23/2003 9:15:13 AM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. An Hoa, Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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