Alabama SC justices cave, order Ten Commandments removed

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[rwfromkansas]

MONTGOMERY, Ala.

[HurkinMcGurkin]

9/11 happened becuse we give Constitutional Rights to everyone

The epitome of ridiculous statements.

[MineralMan]

"We do not let every person here in the USA practice there faith that goes agaisnt Judeo Christian Principles"

Huh? Can you provide some examples of religions that are not allowed to practice their faith?

[rwfromkansas]

See the Joseph Story quote on here earlier, which is almost the same as Moore's.

No, Story is not right, but it is interesting.

[HurkinMcGurkin]

It simply means our nation is no longer governed, led, inspired, or led by Chritians, Chrstian ethics, or the Ten Commandments.

Was the nation governed, led or inspired by Christians, Christian ethics or the Ten Commandments before the Emancipation Proclamation?

[Mo1]

You have the freedom to believe what you wish, you have the freedom to go where you wish, and you have the freedom to ignore what you wish, you have the freedom to pray where you wish. You do not have the freedom to take away from others those same rights.

Exactly

[sinkspur]

I know that of the top 5 or 6 antagonists on these threads (of which you are the ringleader) against the Judge that all of you are either Catholic or Orthodox. I do not find that to be a coincidence.

I'm far from the "ringleader" of anything. I happen to agree with lugsoul, who is by far more knowledgeable than me, though this is my first encounter with him. I have no idea what denomination he belongs to, nor any of the other people on here, only one of whom (Chancellor Palpatine) has communicated directly with me.

I never took you for a tin-foiler, wardaddy. But, I guess I'll have to reconsider.

[concerned about politics]

Granted, but it is the principle that I am looking at here.

There is no violation of the Constitituion, though the courts claim there is.

True, but he can shut them up by adding a cheap book case with other religious books to make their complaints null and void. They can't say what religion he's establishing, because according to them, all religions are acknowledged, and he's not "attacking" anyone.
It would be a check mate, wouldn't it? It would be freedom of religion for all faiths, no?

[unixfox]

I think it's time to stop trying the judicial method and start using the mob method of justice.

The bigger the mob the better the justice.

[rwfromkansas]

The Sovereign LORD rules over you, whether you know it or not.

[jethropalerobber]

There are no high profile cases at all.

see #229.

the main street plaza lawsuit was as high profile as you can get. the story has dominated regional news coverage at various times through out the past year.

[missyme]

Don't take this out of context. I am saying the Ten Commandments are based from what Jews and Christians embrace as a moral code to live by.

I am sure there are plenty other off the wall faiths that have very nice people, they just have no right to say the Ten Commandemnts are offensive if they are living in the United States.

[wardaddy]

Would you admit that you are somewhat "uneasy" with evangelical Christendom?

I don't think Moore is a Charasmatic.....I assume he is a Prod...everyone here says he is and it is Alabama.

This particular case is not my precise beef. I fear that there are forces at work that wish to eliminate God from the public arena entirely and I think the history of the past 40 years proves that.

Now, I am as you know not terribly pious and don't want to see strip clubs outlawed everywhere and all sorts of heavy handed morality imposed on everyone any more than you. I see this as an offensive to bring back the original interpretation of the "state religion" aspects rather than the "wall of separation" doctrine.

But that's just me. What are the polls in Alabama? I'm curious?

[Zavien Doombringer]

A monument to the Old Testament 10 Commandments is something quite different. It is a direct symbol of two religions, Judaism and Christianity. I didn't put it there, nor would I. I have nothing to put anywhere.

What relligion was Moses when he recieved the tablets? If I remember correctly, he was brought up Egyptian!

Judaism didn't get quite established until the levitical law...way after the 10 commandments. Just because the Christians and Jews use these commandments, don't think that these are the only ones...besides, Muslims honor them, so do Buddists and other religions because of thier moral attributes.

Name one religion it promotes placing the monument in the Court!

[lugsoul]

Thanks, sink, but I don't think you can really say that. I didn't make wardaddy's top 5 or 6.

[Roughneck]

Sheesh. Go back to your cave, Mr. Rudolph


And you can go back and report to your boss, satan, that you tried to do his job for him by insulting me - and that you failed.

Christians founded this country sir/madame. There would be NO liberty without christians.

[libravoter]

know that of the top 5 or 6 antagonists on these threads (of which you are the ringleader) against the Judge that all of you are either Catholic or Orthodox. I do not find that to be a coincidence.

You're right. It's probably not a coincidence. It probably has something to do with the fact that all of them can identify with having been in the minority religion at some point or another.

[singsong]

Huh? Can you provide some examples of religions that are not allowed to practice their faith?
Well the original poster did not mean totaly disallowed but some practices are kept in line with Judeo-Christian tradition. No more than one wife, for example. Muslims (and Chinese) cannot legaly have that here.

[inquest]

Judge Moore used the platform of the courthouse to promote his own personal beliefs, thus enjoying the liberty to do so, and yet denied an atheist organization the same liberty when they sought to place a display - a sculpture or picture of an atom, according to the trial court record - representing their own beliefs in the same courthouse rotunda. Thus, Judge Moore has promoted his beliefs, yet denied the freedom of others to do the exact same thing.

Now, would you consider it a similar violation if he put up a copy of MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech, while at the same time refusing a request to put up an address by George Washington? Does he have to accept every request for a display that someone wants to put up, no matter how irrelevant it is to the historical foundation of the country's laws?

[missyme]

Any faith that would allow Animal and human Sacrafices.

[candeee]

Well, we had a president that married a cow. I don't think he worships hillary though.