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Schwarzenegger Presents Vision for California
FoxNews ^ | Aug. 20, 2003 | FoxNews & AP

Posted on 08/20/2003 5:17:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SACRAMENTO, Calif.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: buffett; bustamante; california; davis; economy; mcclintock; plan; prop54; recall; schwarzenegger; simon
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To: TheAngryClam
He ended up OWNING Riordan.

Because Gray Davis campaigned for Simon. The attack ads by Davis on Riordan had more effect than anything Simon did, imo.

81 posted on 08/21/2003 6:36:41 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Yeah, you know, implying that the supposedly pro-choice Riordan was actually pro-life really, really hurts candidates in a conservative GOP primary.
82 posted on 08/21/2003 6:55:36 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: FairOpinion
But, Schwarzenegger, who is seeking to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis (search) in an Oct. 7 recall election, said that he would not raise taxes or cut spending to do it.

Gee, then how are you going to fix the California economy Arnie??? Magic???

83 posted on 08/21/2003 7:01:32 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: FairOpinion
The _only_ way California will _ever_ get state spending "under control" will be to reduce educational spending to realistic levels. This will mean repeal of the ridiculous proposition that mandates that a certain percentage of state revenues (was it around 50%?) be earmarked for education.

If they're unwilling to do this, the deficits will only grow higher, and higher, and higher, with no end in sight.

Two other "must-do" actions to reign in public spending:

1. Swarzennegger (sp?) must revive efforts to overturn the [local] federal judge's suspension of Proposition 187 (correct number?), the state ballot initiative that was supposed to cut off state spending to illegals.

Remember the old line from the "Field of Dreams" movie? "If you build it, he will come."

My transposition re the illegal problem: "If you provide them, they will come". Provide _what_? Why, BENEFITS, of course. The more benefits you provide for free, the _more_ they will come, and come and come, and come, and come, like a swarm of ants to the sugar bowl. STOP providing these benefits, and that army of marching ants will whither away.

2. I'm not sure how (or if) my next idea could be accomplished, but it there were some way to prevent the mailing of money to OUTside the United States, I think this would go a long way towards forcing illegals out. How many of these people (gosh, didn't Ross Perot get in trouble for using that term before the wrong audience?) send a large part of their earnings south of the border? Make it impossible (or at least difficult) for them to do that, and a significant part of their reason for being here evaporates. At the very least, we should consider imposing some kind of "export tax" on ALL dollars sent abroad. Since many (most?) of the illegals are paid "under the table", the state (and feds) collect not a dime of their earnings (all the same time paying out for the cornucopia of benefits that the illegals consume). Let's "recover" some of it at the source. If we can't stop them from sending the cash back home, let's make them "taxpayers" right up front. Personally, and on the corporate level, as well (but that's an argument for another thread).

Some closing thoughts (speaking the unspeakable?):
• California's troubles are directly linked to its innundation by illegals from south of the border.
• California (and the U.S. government) _must_ take the necessary steps to stop this influx.
• California (and the U.S. government) _must_ take the necessary steps to cut off aid to illegals _already in_ California (and the United States). California and the U.S. must become a very INhosipitable place to be an illegal alien.
• If California _does not_ take the necessary action to stop illegals from coming in, and to cut off their ever-increasing welfare benefits, and take the necessary action to _encourage_ and force the out-migration of illegals already here, then the ONLY possible result will be MORE illegals flooding in.
• If the flood of illegals cannot be stopped, and their consumption of public revenues cannot be reversed, there is no hope for California.

Seems pretty obvious to me ('way back east). How about you?

Cheers!
- John

84 posted on 08/21/2003 7:05:23 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Walkin Man
Magic???

Keep reading. You've fallen prey to bad reporting.

85 posted on 08/21/2003 7:14:51 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Reagan Man
<< ... Schwarzenegger, who is seeking to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis in an Oct. 7 recall election, said that he would not raise taxes or cut spending to do it.

The twin pillars of fiscal conservatism, is cutting taxes and reducing government spending. This is not the rhetoric of a candidate whose a fiscal conservative. Arnold continues showing his true colors. Arnold's a liberal RINO. >>

Uh...did you read the whole article? This summary statement written by the reporter does NOT match the Schwarzenegger quotes in the article itself!
86 posted on 08/21/2003 10:56:38 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
<< I just saw my first Arnold TV add. Not bad, except that he was wearing a jacket and an open-collared shirt. No tie? Come on. >>

Given the fact that Schwarzenegger is reaching out to new, younger voters, this was actually a good move.

What's the big deal with ties anyway? I mean, I can understand the impulse to having politicians wear nooses at all time, but still...
87 posted on 08/21/2003 11:13:26 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: FITZ
<< Anyone who doesn't want to cut spending isn't serious about solving the fiscal crisis. That has to be number one ---- it's spending or else get more money (taxes)----what other possible way does he think that budget can be fixed? >>

Having read the whole article, I think the reporter was wrong in their assessment. I read about cutting spending in there...granted, it was in political code-speak, but it was there...
88 posted on 08/21/2003 11:16:58 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: lilylangtree
<< Heard the last 15 minutes of Termite. Wasn't impressed. He's still what he is--RAT calling himself a PUB without the ideals or spirit of PUBs. Kept thinking not raise taxes nor cut spending, he doesn't have a plan. >>

He said it would require cuts in spending! Did you read the article and/or the text of his speech, or do you just take the part for the whole?
89 posted on 08/21/2003 11:21:46 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: kellynla
<< Read the article. That's what the article says! >>

The reporter said it in the article. But the actual quotes from the speech say otherwise.

Read the whole article, not just the beginning.
90 posted on 08/21/2003 11:23:05 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: DiamondDon1
<< I think Arnold is going in the right direction...

Note to the rest of my brethren, I have not abandoned McClintock and have not switched based on one speech, but Arnold looks like a good second choice >>

That's exactly my position, Don.
91 posted on 08/21/2003 11:27:52 AM PDT by Maccabee-AJB
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To: Reagan Man
... Schwarzenegger, who is seeking to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis in an Oct. 7 recall election, said that he would not raise taxes or cut spending to do it.

The twin pillars of fiscal conservatism, is cutting taxes and reducing government spending. This is not the rhetoric of a candidate whose a fiscal conservative. Arnold continues showing his true colors. Arnold's a liberal RINO.

WRONG

Schwarzenegger did say cuts would be made.

My, how hasty some are to leap to erroneous conclusions in their zeal to bash those they don't like (for irrational and baseless reasons).

92 posted on 08/21/2003 12:02:07 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Ronin
See corrections: The reporter got it wrong. A.S. said cuts would be made.

Might I add that Fox News has been a bitter disappointment in the last several weeks. I've noticed several errors in their reporting, including California election coverage. I am still reeling from that Adam Housley labeling Arianna H. as a conservative pundit recently. I wanted to smack him, he had this weird expression when he said this. I am not a fan of his.

93 posted on 08/21/2003 12:05:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: lilylangtree
Heard the last 15 minutes of Termite. Wasn't impressed. He's still what he is--RAT calling himself a PUB without the ideals or spirit of PUBs. Kept thinking not raise taxes nor cut spending, he doesn't have a plan.

What's your theory as to why he has been a registered Republican all of these years?

94 posted on 08/21/2003 12:09:48 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: BradyLS
But his won't cut spending nor raise taxes stand sounds like he plans to host a big Hollywood telethon to bail out the state.

Sigh

Hope you got around to seeing he did not say he won't cut spending. He said cuts would be necessary.

95 posted on 08/21/2003 12:16:15 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Fledermaus
ACK

He did not say no spending cuts.

Sheesh

96 posted on 08/21/2003 12:20:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Fledermaus
Of course, if he was really smart he'd point out the fact of ever increasing budgets without justification for the increases.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you did not watch or read about the press conference prior to this article that contained erroneous information.

True?

I advise you read more about it before launching your offensive.

97 posted on 08/21/2003 12:24:54 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Common Tator
He said he will not raise taxes and he won't cut spending.

He said he would cut spending, Tator.

98 posted on 08/21/2003 12:28:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Reagan Man
Arnold's hardcore social liberalism doesn't appeal to conservatives.

He's more of a social libertarian than a social liberal. Big, big difference.

The GOP has always stood for tax cuts, reductions in governemnt spending and deregulation.

Other than the reporter's incorrect claim that Arnold said he wouldn't cut spending, that's exactly what Arnold said he'd do. Read his quotes, not the summary of a journalist who is trying to discredit him. Honestly, it was very refreshing to hear such an overtly pro-business line coming from a candidate. I mean, he actually emphasized cutting government mandates on businesses. When was the last time you heard someone make that strong a pitch in the current anti-corporate environment?

99 posted on 08/21/2003 12:34:35 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: Maccabee-AJB
I must admit, I am glad that we have a good fall-back position...but we have not yet given any ground, why start now (DAY 11)???

Nice chatting...

DD
100 posted on 08/21/2003 12:40:02 PM PDT by DiamondDon1
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