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California Needs Conservatism (by Rush Limbaugh)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 20, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/19/2003 8:57:06 PM PDT by Timesink

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Listening to some Republicans and conservatives on the possibility of winning the California governorship lately has been dismaying. "We don't really want to win this race. California is in such a mess it can't be fixed and we will be tagged as failures if we try. Let the Democrats continue to stew in their mess." Or a variation on this theme: "Whoever wins will not have a mandate so he/she will not be able to govern, especially with the huge Democrat majorities in the California legislature."


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; calgov2002; california; conservatism; garycoleman; mcclintock; recall; recall2003; rushlimbaugh; schwartzenegger
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To: quidnunc
I like cops as a rule. Two of my uncles were cops. But I bet you were assigned mostly to the Dunkin Donuts beat.
181 posted on 08/19/2003 11:27:45 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: KantianBurke
Amen.
182 posted on 08/19/2003 11:28:20 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: quidnunc
Ah, give me Neal Boortz any day, informative, funny and not a big radio self-ego strokeathon.

good night...
183 posted on 08/19/2003 11:28:23 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (My only desire is to pester and mislead Mojo and Nick. (its so easy))
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To: holdonnow
Maybe you should change your name to, say, Mr. Attention Deficit Disorder.

He could probably say the same. He just told you he is a retired police officer. You may have to look up the word "jackanape" in the dictionary.

184 posted on 08/19/2003 11:30:02 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: jjbrouwer
Wow ... jjbrouwer to the rescue ... covering his friend's rear. Ugly.
185 posted on 08/19/2003 11:31:30 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: quidnunc
Speaking as an outsider maybe the best thing for all of us outsiders to do is to give those that are from California the benefit of the doubt as to whether a "real conservative" can win. They may know something we don't. Since even Texas has a problem electing a doctrinaire conservative I have my doubts but, what the hell, maybe the Simon fiasco was just an aberration and California is now ready to bite the bullet. The upside is huge and the downside is just the status quo. Good luck.
186 posted on 08/19/2003 11:32:14 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: jjbrouwer
By the way, JJ, I told you Arnold's announcing today that he supports cutting taxes (car taxes). That seemed to disappoint you. You're really a lib, right?
187 posted on 08/19/2003 11:33:23 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: holdonnow
holdonnow wrote: Read my post above. I had nothing to do with this op-ed, or any other. Now, answer my question. What do you do for a living?

Well if you didn't write it for him, who did?

188 posted on 08/19/2003 11:34:16 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: holdonnow
Strangely, you couldn't be more wrong. Quid and I have been an online Punch and Judy act for years. I first came across him on Lucianne Goldberg's old forum.

Disturbingly, I find myself agreeing with him more and more often.

189 posted on 08/19/2003 11:36:04 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: quidnunc
More cheap shots against Rush. Is that what you were known for on the force -- cheap shots? Or was it the way you gulped down two donuts and a tall coffee?
190 posted on 08/19/2003 11:36:20 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: jjbrouwer
I take it that you played Judy?
191 posted on 08/19/2003 11:37:07 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: holdonnow
Ah, the old "Liberal" insult. Last resort of the Rushlimboid.

No, I'm not a Liberal. I don't have a vote in America though I'm fairly impartial. Like the Queen, I stand aside from the political battle. (heh heh - cue cr*p joke.)

192 posted on 08/19/2003 11:38:24 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: holdonnow
No, I was Punch. Quid was Judy but he was also the policeman who breaks things up at the end - so he had an unfair advantage.
193 posted on 08/19/2003 11:39:34 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: quidnunc
Enough fun for one night, boys. Just remember, practice safe sex. Thank me.
194 posted on 08/19/2003 11:39:51 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: holdonnow
Just remember, practice safe sex.

Good advice. If only your... no - don't go there.

It's been a blast. Later.

195 posted on 08/19/2003 11:42:06 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: holdonnow
holdonnow wrote: More cheap shots against Rush. Is that what you were known for on the force -- cheap shots? Or was it the way you gulped down two donuts and a tall coffee?

Mark, you really ought to get to bed because you lost your edge about an hour ago.

Heed the old adage "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

I'm only trying to help you here because this thread isn't doing your image any good.

196 posted on 08/19/2003 11:42:33 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Timesink
None of this decay is surprising. The left's promises of Nirvana never measure up. But what does surprise me are the reactions of some conservatives who see California's problems as so severe that they can't be solved by the application of conservative principles. Their thinking has led them to support Arnold Schwarzenegger, who, to my knowledge, has yet to embrace any conservative positions, though he has embraced Warren Buffett. Hasta la vista, whatever,

I don't think there is a question as to whether a "true" conservative could fix the problems in CA .. they could and they would do a good job.

I think the question is whether a "true" conservative could get elected at this time with the political climate that CA is in now.

But only the voters in CA can answer that question

197 posted on 08/19/2003 11:44:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: quidnunc
Mark, you really ought to get to bed because you lost your edge about an hour ago.

He had an edge???

Good to know that PUI is not restricted to British posters.

198 posted on 08/19/2003 11:47:41 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Whaddyou talkin' about, Terminator?)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Central Scrutiniser: "Rush is this guy that used to be fairly interesting and entertaining back before he became ultra rich and got a trophy wife."

"Nowadays, his biggest concern is not having to wait too long on the tarmac when his private jet takes him to a golf tournament. He is a classic "Limousine Conservative."

M-PI: "Your class-envy, victim-mentality is showing. This emotional weakness makes you a sitting duck for Marxist DemocRAT propaganda, by the way."

Central Scrutiniser:"Do you buy your hyperbole wholesale?"

It's no exaggeration to say that cynical opportunists can easily spot a victim-mentality evidencing emotional weaknesses like class-envy. Karl Marx wrote the play book that DemocRATS use on how to push the buttons of the ones he called, "useful idiots".

199 posted on 08/19/2003 11:48:01 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Mo1
But only the voters in CA can answer that question

That is the the real issue. I hope the conservatves in California do as good a job defeating the democrat as they do at defeating "rinos" this time.

200 posted on 08/19/2003 11:49:09 PM PDT by Texasforever
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