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Family of 20 determined to keep condemned home
Scranton Times-Tribune ^ | 8/15/03 | Andrew Scott

Posted on 08/15/2003 5:03:16 PM PDT by Born Conservative

A North Scranton family with 18 children is determined to keep their Habitat for Humanity home, which was declared unfit for human habitation last month.

The city condemned the 2517 N. Main Ave. home of Charles and Barbara Smith on July 29 for debris outside and inside the house, and because the Scranton Sewer Authority shut off the water on July 24, said Bill Fiorini, director of permits, inspections and licensing.

Mr. Smith, who said the city should have let his family stay in the house while they correct the violations, said they have until October to fix the problems or else they will lose the house.

The Smiths and 14 of their children, ages 3 to 21, are staying several blocks away at the home of one of their older sons, Mr. Smith said.

Habitat for Humanity, which renovates abandoned houses into affordable homes for first-time, low-income owners, bought and fixed up the North Main Avenue duplex for the Smiths, converting it into a single-family home with 10 bedrooms and three bathrooms. In March 2000, the family moved in.

As the largest biological family ever to obtain a house through Habitat for Humanity, the Smiths were featured in the Sunday New York Times as well as on the ABC-TV newsmagazine "20/20."

But the family, relying solely on Mrs. Smith's income as a housekeeper, fell behind on their sewer payments by 13 months, owing $1,600 to the Scranton Sewer Authority, Mr. Smith said Thursday afternoon. As a result, their water was shut off.

A former auto mechanic, Mr. Smith said he is no longer able to work because of heart problems. The family kept up on their $115-a-month mortgage payments and other utility bills, but those and other expenses left no money for sewer payments, which were $123 a month, he said.

"We busted our humps to get that house through Habitat," Mr. Smith said. "Whatever it takes, we're getting back into that house. We don't want people making us out to be a bad family just because we're having a hard time maintaining our house. We're decent people. We're just having a tough time because we're low income."

Mr. Smith said the violations include some damaged light bulb fixtures, which he said he tried to repair, and a missing electrical junction box lid in the laundry room, which he said he replaced. He said other violations included missing ceiling tiles in the pool table room, which he said he took down after his children damaged them with pool sticks.

Habitat director Ozzie Quinn said his agency and Lackawanna County Children and Youth Services support keeping the family in their home.

Children and Youth caseworker Kerry Kimmick said her agency deemed the home habitable for children during its last visit there, but said she couldn't recall when the last visit took place. Ms. Kimmick said the agency has not visited the home since it was condemned. And without a copy of the list of code violations, Children and Youth cannot determine if the house is still fit for children, she said.

"The city should have notified us before condemning the house," Mr. Quinn said. "Had we known ahead of time, we could have tried to prevent this."

Mr. Fiorini said the city did not notify Habitat because the Smiths own the home, even though the Smiths make mortgage payments to Habitat.

"The family didn't let us know they were having problems keeping up on the utility payments. Otherwise, we would have tried to help," Mr. Quinn said.

"We didn't let anyone know because we don't like going to others for help unless it's absolutely necessary," Mr. Smith said. "We don't like being thought of as one of those families who take assistance they don't really need."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
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To: SandyEgo; humblegunner
aaaah - it's a girl...but thanks anyway. Sometimes a girl to have that resourcefulness that you spoke of, is more important than a boy... it's more difficult for us. ha

It is not like that. He is just particularly proud of his son's understanding of the capitalist system which must be allowed to flourish. I was not trying to steal your thunder or pride in your granddaughter. Just giving a friend an appropriate forum on which to pontificate on his pride.

41 posted on 08/15/2003 7:46:03 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Oystir
Chad, Brian (Bri), twins Ashley (Betsy) and Eric (Feedhead), Danielle (Megan), Dustin (Bundy), Charles (Chewy), Kricket, Casey (Pie), Bristy (Starla), twins Trysta (Gaga) and Kysta (Kooter), Kaylee, Skyler (Howie), Shawn (Mikey or Bighead), Corry and Steven (Puggy).

Why do all the children have 2 names, and what the heck is a Feedhead, Pie, Gaga, Kooter, Bighead, and Puggy?

Looks like papa blew all his money on tattoos.

42 posted on 08/15/2003 8:20:58 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (a 'true conservative' would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say 'I told you so')
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To: TexasCowboy
If it costs very little, it has very little value.


That applies to people who have no concept of worth. Which is more likely to occur when you are given things rather than earning them. I'm thinking what you meant was if it came easy, it isn't valued.
43 posted on 08/15/2003 8:27:31 PM PDT by visualops
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To: Eaker
Why aren't these older children... heck the oldest ones aren't children anymore, they're adults.. Why aren't these people working?

Have they no honor, no self-respect?

44 posted on 08/15/2003 8:31:40 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: visualops
I'm thinking what you meant was if it came easy, it isn't valued."

Yes, I meant that if it costs very little in effort to obtain, then the value is very little.

45 posted on 08/15/2003 8:33:20 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Eaker
"18 year old Chad" could have been working for the last few years, plus some of the other kids.

How those people could squander such a gift and then go on about God and 'making it through' is beyond me.
46 posted on 08/15/2003 8:35:51 PM PDT by visualops
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
"Looks like papa blew all his money on tattoos."

Good point, C.
Tattoos are expensive!

47 posted on 08/15/2003 8:36:01 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: RikaStrom
Have they no honor, no self-respect?

You answered your own question.

I live in a modist 4 bedroom home. There is no way that I could afford a 10 bedroom house. Especially one with a "pool room". I know you don't have a 10 bedroom pad either. A beautiful home, but not 10 bedrooms.

Guess that makes us trash.

;<)

Keep the Erica Storm away from Houson, okay!!!!

48 posted on 08/15/2003 8:37:38 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
And judging by the gut, a few drinks as well.
He's got 'slept it off on the couch' written all over him.
49 posted on 08/15/2003 8:38:52 PM PDT by visualops
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To: RikaStrom
"Have they no honor, no self-respect?"

Ya know, it's funny about people who live on the dole.
They can completely smother those feelings so that their actions are justified.
"You've got it........I want it.....therefore, it should belong to me."

50 posted on 08/15/2003 8:39:15 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Eaker
Guess that makes us trash.

We're in good company then! :-)

My monthly payments are considerably more than $115.00 and I would never dream of knocking holes in the wall, or spraying graffitti. Sheesh

Keep the Erica Storm away from Houson, okay!!!!

I'm trying Eaker, I'm trying. You would not believe the razzing I've been getting today. LOL. I wonder if I can complain to our Representative from Mars and get the name changed? ;-)

51 posted on 08/15/2003 8:42:18 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: TexasCowboy
Hi COB, Sweetie.

"You've got it........I want it.....therefore, it should belong to me."

And that comment there is the reason that so much has slid into the sesspool...including that house.

52 posted on 08/15/2003 8:44:30 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: mhking
"Just damn."


Audio

53 posted on 08/15/2003 8:44:43 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: RikaStrom
Rika, hon, I want you to know that I voted to call that storm, "Tom".
54 posted on 08/15/2003 8:50:25 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Eaker
Hell, I am a regular psycho

Mom and I agree....Hell....I'm even proposing a toast to US Psychos!

Stay tuned for the Honda 1100 to soon be in my garage!


55 posted on 08/15/2003 8:53:25 PM PDT by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged!)
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To: willieroe
Mr. Smith, who has made his living by helping children get on and off school buses said he was eager to take on the $150 monthly carrying charge for the home. The fright of seeing his family homeless and fractured had made him desperate, he said.

I thought he was a former auto mechanic??

56 posted on 08/15/2003 9:04:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: SandyEgo
At eight years old, she knows the thrill/and pride of earning her own money.

I think that's an important lesson to teach a young child. She's probably going to be ok for the rest of her life.

57 posted on 08/15/2003 9:04:06 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Mo1
I thought he was a former auto mechanic??

Who knows. This family's story changes so fast that I get dizzy.

And I really have my doubts about a auto mechanic being out of a job. Even if he is sick, (and I have my doubts) he can work a 4 hour day to generate some income.

58 posted on 08/16/2003 4:52:02 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Under advice from my lawyer I will now be known as Mostly Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: netmilsmom; BlindedByTruth
Ping
59 posted on 08/16/2003 5:57:51 AM PDT by JonathansMommie (How are inlaws different from out laws? Out laws Are wanted!!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
-- I thought he was a former auto mechanic??

Who knows. This family's story changes so fast that I get dizzy.

You're not kidding. In another local article about the family, the dad admits to owing $4,000 in light bills in addition to the $1,600 in sewer bills.

60 posted on 08/16/2003 9:33:03 AM PDT by willieroe
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