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1 posted on 08/15/2003 7:38:41 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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Ping for Cathryn Crawford's latest column. ;-)
2 posted on 08/15/2003 7:42:09 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (All roads lead to reality. That's why I smile.)
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since their boyfriend whined until they finally had sex with them, they’ve been raped.

They do that? Men actually whine until they get sex? What an odd thing...

3 posted on 08/15/2003 7:49:26 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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Uriah will be happy to know he's a rapist.
4 posted on 08/15/2003 7:49:34 AM PDT by Agnes Heep
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It's time to put the Liberal Clitorati down and out.
5 posted on 08/15/2003 7:50:57 AM PDT by Consort
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It has become an expectation, and when true sexual trauma occurs, it gets swept away in the tide of indifference that this attitude has fostered.

BUMP

FMCDH

11 posted on 08/15/2003 8:02:26 AM PDT by nothingnew (I've changed my tagline and will tell no one what it is until I'm on the Jay Leno show!)
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There has to be a clear boundary between what is and isn’t rape.

This is a statement of your desire rather than an imperative that you've demonstrated by evidence.

You would think there is a clear boundary between what is and isn't murder, but then you get into all sorts of accidental death / reckless endangerment scenarios and suddenly it isn't so clear after all.

Similarly it would be nice if there was always a clear boundary between what is and isn't theft/fraud. But then you get into financial dealings with different expectations and different levels of information, and the lines become blurry.

Rape is a question of consent. It'll always have a subjective component. You may hope and wish that you could always draw clear lines, but lacking a demonstration of certainty in all cases, your statement is just a wish and nothing more.

12 posted on 08/15/2003 8:07:59 AM PDT by jlogajan
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Amen, Cathryn. Ya done good! This is just more of the "I'm a victim and therefore don't have to take any responsibility" crap.
13 posted on 08/15/2003 8:08:33 AM PDT by upchuck (Tommy Dasshole isn't "saddened." He's just... sad... and small.)
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Seems to me giving alcohol or drugs for sex is a form of payment, therefore, prostitution.
17 posted on 08/15/2003 8:09:53 AM PDT by ampat
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bump
24 posted on 08/15/2003 8:16:32 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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It never really was about sex, it was about power. What the more radical sisters are after is simply a state-mandated and -protected right to jail any man, at any time, and not necessarily for anything he personally has done, but because he is a member of the oppressing class and they consider themselves members of the oppressed class.

For evidence I offer two demonstrable tendencies in the women insisting on this power - first, the element of simple envy that some women are enjoying a perfectly congenial relationship with men and that they are not; and second, the resolute insistence that the lack of a satisfactory relationship in their own lives is due to their own higher standards and not to their higher disagreeability. These are not happy people, and they like it that way, and they don't really think anyone else has the right to happiness on any terms but their own. They are not the first, the only, or the last people to attempt to substitute power over others for glaring inadequacies in their own lives.

34 posted on 08/15/2003 8:29:36 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Anyone who is psychologically or physically pressured into sexual contact is as much a victim of rape as the person who is attacked on the streets."

Any woman that can't figure out how to say NO and mean it should not be able to claim rape. Rape is violence or threatened violence.

39 posted on 08/15/2003 8:36:44 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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GREAT JOB AS USUAL.
50 posted on 08/15/2003 8:45:52 AM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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The new line is no means no. Right!
52 posted on 08/15/2003 8:49:24 AM PDT by novacation
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INTSUM
53 posted on 08/15/2003 8:50:17 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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So by femichick standards, did bill clinton rape Monica???/

Pray for GW and The Truth

89 posted on 08/15/2003 9:28:47 AM PDT by bray ( Old Glory Stands for Freedom)
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As near as I can tell, their definition is all sex in which males are involved.
129 posted on 08/15/2003 10:04:22 AM PDT by yarddog
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Excellent article!!!! My very favorite of all I've ever read from you! Buyer's remorse has become rape these days. Am I allowed to email your article to everyone I know as long as I make sure to credit you as the author?
160 posted on 08/15/2003 1:44:15 PM PDT by honeygrl
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Women have already gotten all the power they need in marital court and domestic violence petitions here in New Hampshire to make men nothing more than a paycheck to women. All they have to do is simply file a "threat of violence" on a domestic violence petition, then it goes to court where the female marital master looks at you in disgust and then grants permanent custody of your kids withour any evidence of abuse to the welfare mom who eagerly awaits 25% of your earnings. 55% of all arrests in New Hampshire are domestic violence charges. If you even restrained your wife or girlfriend from raking your eyeballs out, the cops come and arrest you for Class A Misdemeanors, a jailable offence, plus you get forced to take the "Ending the Violence Program"

A rape law, naw, not needed here for the female liberists here in the "live free or die state" of New Hampshire. We already have men committing suicide on the court room steps in despaor. We know our place, we have become the bitches and how dare we even defend ourselves, that soon will become a jailable offence also.
165 posted on 08/15/2003 3:28:30 PM PDT by quant5 (Just come to New Hampshire, the victory state of female liberists)
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feminists will never be happy until ALL heterosexual sex is rape. (s)Next all heterosexual sex will be outlawed. Only a "woman" of welsly knows what a woman wants sexually. (/s)
189 posted on 08/15/2003 4:35:41 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Man, is this article behind the times...

In 1991, according to my Sen. Babs Moo-cow-ski (Peoples Republic of Maryland), Anita Hill was "raped" by then nominee Clarence Thomas. She was using the term to imply sexual harassment.

It's the damned RATs who have dumbed down the language. But isn't that the way Orwell said it needed to be done with 1984's NewSpeak?
192 posted on 08/15/2003 5:37:30 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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