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Tom DeLay's Web Site
U.S. House Majority Leader ^ | 8-14-03 | Tom DeLay

Posted on 08/14/2003 11:37:00 AM PDT by Maximilian

Here is the photo that dominates the home page of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. This is not a parody. You can click the link and see for yourself. Notice the 2 flags behind the Capitol. Which country are we living in here, and where lie the loyalties of our leaders?



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: dividedloyalties; flag; israel; tomdelay
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To: Maximilian
Isn't he third in line to the presidency, if my memory serves correctly?

Er, no (this is something you should've learned in high school civics class).  Dennis Hastert is Speaker of the House, not Tom DeLay.  Majority Leader DeLay is not part of the line of succession.

Line of Succession:

The 25th Amendment reiterates what is stated in Article 2, Section 1: that the Vice President is the direct successor of the President. He or she will become President if the President cannot serve for whatever reason. The 25th also provides for a President who is temporarily disabled, such as if the President has a surgical procedure or if he or she become mentally unstable.

The original Constitution provides that if neither the President nor Vice President can serve, the Congress shall provide law stating who is next in line. Currently that law exists as 3 USC 19, a section of the U.S. Code. This law was established as part of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. There, the following line of succession is provided:

 

21 posted on 08/14/2003 11:57:38 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Maximilian
This represents official US government endorsement of a foreign power.

And the billions of dollars in foreign aid given to Israel since before Tom Delay was born, do not represent an offical US Governmet Edorsement of a Foreign Power?

Presidnet Harry Turman made the official US government endorsement of Irael in 1948. We were on Isaels side in three Arab-Israeli wars. Israel won all three agamist larger arab forces. The Arabs used Russian Weapons and Tactics while Irael used ours. Israel kicked the crap out of the Arabsl three straight times. Being on the side of Israel has been offical US policiy for all administrations for over 55 years.

Have your always been this ignorant or did you take lessons?


22 posted on 08/14/2003 12:09:25 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Maximilian
If you were on his website, you must have seen the article that the picture goes to. Why did you post this?
23 posted on 08/14/2003 12:12:42 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Maximilian
Here's a bit of displeasure for you...lol


24 posted on 08/14/2003 12:18:36 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
LOL

I guess maybe we shouldn't have flown that huge Brit flag at our rally for the troops a couple of months back...it might have upset someone...

Sheesh

Nice pics.
25 posted on 08/14/2003 12:22:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOD save this court!)
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To: wardaddy
Great pics! Go Brits!
26 posted on 08/14/2003 12:24:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb; EternalVigilance
Thanks...I'm just teasing Max, I'm not sure about his underlying motivation (if there is one), maybe he is just a stickler for Old Glory flying solo.

As for Britain....while never perfect...that little island has arguably influenced the world more than any other nation in history....and more for the better than worse. I'm proud they spawned us.
27 posted on 08/14/2003 12:33:13 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
If any of these 3 flag photos were on the official government website of the house majority leader, then you would have a point.
28 posted on 08/14/2003 12:33:41 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: wardaddy
You got it.
29 posted on 08/14/2003 12:34:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOD save this court!)
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To: Common Tator
And the billions of dollars in foreign aid given to Israel since before Tom Delay was born, do not represent an offical US Governmet Edorsement of a Foreign Power?

We've given billions to Arab powers as well. Was that an official endorsement of Saddam Hussein? I don't think so.

Presidnet Harry Turman made the official US government endorsement of Irael in 1948.

He recognized their existence. That is a long way from flying the Israeli flag over the US Capitol.

Being on the side of Israel has been offical US policiy for all administrations for over 55 years.

This might be the de facto reality, but it's not the official government policy.

30 posted on 08/14/2003 12:37:56 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
I point my yawn in your general direction...YAAaaaaawn.
31 posted on 08/14/2003 12:38:58 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Maximilian
Considering the photo relates to a story directly below it discussing his speech to the Knesset (sp?), I find your comments at best disingenuous.
32 posted on 08/14/2003 12:40:52 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Maximilian
If any of these 3 flag photos were on the official government website of the house majority leader, then you would have a point.

I wish they were there on his site along with the Old Glory/Star of David collage. Blair deserves it..as do the dead Brits who died saving our bacon. Would you prefer to see some lib Dem in a warm embrace with Fidel or the Ortega hermanos or Saint Mandela? I'm sure we can find one somewhere from the past on a congresscritter's website. These folks (Israel and the UK)are our allies. There is nothing wrong with displying their flag on any website including POTUS's as a show of solidarity and kinship. Blair took the kind of heat not many US politicos would weather to do the right thing.....very very unusual....especially from someone who has serious domestic policy diferences with W.

33 posted on 08/14/2003 12:45:04 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
Would you prefer to see some lib Dem in a warm embrace with Fidel or the Ortega hermanos or Saint Mandela?

No, of course not. But that's just the point. Ann Coulter can accuse liberals of "treason" for their embrace of foreign powers like the odious examples you mention above. But shouldn't the same rules apply to conservatives? Should we be putting the interests of any country ahead of our own, whether it be the UK or Israel, or anyone else?

34 posted on 08/14/2003 12:48:47 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
I was going to point out what a loser you are for getting all drama queen about this, but the masses beat me to it. Oh well.
35 posted on 08/14/2003 12:52:35 PM PDT by Gothmog
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To: wardaddy
"I'm proud they spawned us"

Me too. British soldiers have stood shoulder to shoulder with us, faught for freedom beside us and died beside us for the past century. Differences aside, we still have a lot in common with Britain.

If DeLay was making a speech concerning Britain's importance in the war on terror, I'd expect to see a photograph of our flag beside the British flag.

I don't understand what Max's problem is. Flying the flag of the nation(s) you're dealing with during any diplomatic effort, no matter how minor, is protocol. In the context of the article, DeLay is following the correct diplomatic protocol as a representative of our government in a diplomatic context.

36 posted on 08/14/2003 12:55:16 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Maximilian
Isn't he third in line to the presidency, if my memory serves correctly? And he's flying the flag of a foreign country?

First of all, he's showing a drawing of part of a flag of a foreign country, not flying it over the Capital building. Sheesh. If he'd just talked to the Japanese Diet, it would be the rising sun I expect.

Secondly he is not 3rd in line for the Presidency, nor in the line at all. He's House majority leader, 3rd in line is the Speaker of the House. Fourth is the President Pro Tempore of the Senate. I wish he was third in line, but he's not. The order, with more or less current officeholders is:

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Colin Powell
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General John Ashcroft
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman
Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Melquiades
Rafael Martinez
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshiro Mineta
Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham
Secretary of Education Roderick Paige
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi

37 posted on 08/14/2003 12:57:18 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: FourPeas
Considering the photo relates to a story directly below it discussing his speech to the Knesset (sp?), I find your comments at best disingenuous.

Am I supposed to feel a lot better that this photo is run on his website in support of his speech to the Knesset in which he undermined President Bush's Mideast policy?

Houston Chronicle 8-12-2003:

President Bush's support for the establishment of a Palestinian state in two years may be overly ambitious, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told a pro-Israel audience in Houston Monday.

The Republican lawmaker made his remarks as political fallout continues to radiate over his controversial July trip to Iraq and Israel, where he spoke before the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, his message there highlighting his ideological gap with Bush over the Middle East peace process.


38 posted on 08/14/2003 12:59:01 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: buzzsaw6
Thereafter it goes by seniority in the House

It goes to the cabient. See my previous post #37

39 posted on 08/14/2003 12:59:05 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: lilylangtree
It's an image that goes with the story...
40 posted on 08/14/2003 12:59:44 PM PDT by lonestar (Weinie for California Governor!)
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