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The Marriage Strike - Why are men reluctant to marry?
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| August 13, 2003
| Wendy McElroy
Posted on 08/13/2003 9:40:36 AM PDT by ddodd3329
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To: laurav
That's an interesting (and historically vetted) solution to the problem from a practical view. How is it working? Any of your freinds go ahead and marry the old goat (just kidding - get it KIDDING!?! I crack myself up) ? I know several couples where the husband is many years older than the wife and it seems to work fine, other than a vague fear by the women of eventually being left alone.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:18:01 AM PDT
by
lafroste
To: FourPeas
Be prepared, though, that such a woman usually expects the man to be a serious Christian who takes his responsibility to the family as his #2 priority, second only to God. I've recently been reacqainted with my long dormant faith. If I marry, my family would be my #2 responsibility.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:18:07 AM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: ASA Vet
"Old bulls like young grass." "So do young girls.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:19:22 AM PDT
by
bayourod
To: MineralMan
One signifigant worry for Gen X guys is the retirement factor. With an insolvent SS and staggering taxes coming right up, being financially devastated by a divorce is gonig to be even more damaging than ever.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:22:08 AM PDT
by
KantianBurke
(The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
To: riri
Oh...like men don't go belly-up....and out
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT
by
GYPSY286
To: KantianBurke
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:23:25 AM PDT
by
xrp
To: MineralMan
Maybe I should have said "DIVORCE has been turned into an act of prostitution." But then, the number one cause of divorce is marriage.
How about those happy marriages? What, you mean the half that don't fail? The mythical long and satisfying ones? Yeah, I know a lot of those.
And yes, marriage for sex is stupid. Marriage for ANY reason is stupid ... at least half the time.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:24:40 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: ddodd3329
Men are reluctant to marry because women are stupid enough to give the goodies away without benefit of a ring.
Why should a guy risk the messiness of divorce when he can simply live with a woman, and even have kids with her, then just walk way if things get dicey.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:25:03 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: ken5050
...the income of the male rises significantly after the divorce, while the income, and living standard of the female, and the children, drops dramatically..funny how we dont here much about that.. Funny? Well, despite the feminist studies to the contrary, the empirical and antedotal evidence that the average guy on the street encounters says just what this article does - men pay for the divorce with their livelihoods, the contact with their kids, and their lost years. Increased earnings? Yeah, tell that to the house framers and dry wall hangers living from the back of their '92 pickups.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:26:34 AM PDT
by
Thommas
To: ddodd3329
McElroy speaks truth. Am going thru a divorce and yes, I have been taken to the cleaners.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:27:12 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Graduate: Burt Gummer's Survival School)
To: ken5050
the income of the male rises significantly after the divorce, while the income, and living standard of the female, and the children, drops dramatically..funny how we dont here much about that.. I had heard this before - it's an argument to show that divorce is unfair to women. However, you can just as easily turn it around, and claim that marriage is unfair to men.
Personally, I prefer thinking that people make reasonable decisions - at least on average. Thus, this shows that men value marriage more than women do. They are willing to cut their standard of living - to pay more - in order to be married. Women, who do initiate most divorces, are finding that marriage is not worth the extra standard of living that they gain from it, so they leave.
It sort of reverses the conventional wisdom, but I think it is accurate. Rather, it is accurate for married couples. Married men generally value marriage more than the married women.
Drew Garrett
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:27:27 AM PDT
by
agarrett
To: patriot_wes
Yep.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:28:14 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Graduate: Burt Gummer's Survival School)
To: tortoise
You are correct in this regard. The divorce rate among evangelical Christians is not too far behind that of the unchurched. Even among religous groups that take a dim view of divorce and where some societal and church sanctions remain, such as the Mormons, the Catholics, and the Lutherans, divorce rates over the lifetime of a marriage are at least 20%.
If there is any hope for the future of the traditional family, it will be among the most conservative evangelicals, the type that home school and attend the mst doctrinally sound churches. (Along with parallels among traditionalist Catholics and orthodox Jews.)
To: george wythe
Reminds me of Charles Kuralt. Hehe...
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:28:58 AM PDT
by
Thommas
To: ddodd3329
Another thing you can't discount is that half the kids nowadays come from broken homes, like me, and have seen how their own mothers treated dad. Is it any wonder young kids are reluctant to marry when they have first hand knowledge of what to expect if the marriage doesn't work out ?
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:29:02 AM PDT
by
John Lenin
(Imagine there's no liberals, it's easy if you try)
To: FourPeas; RogerFGay
Try being male and going to court to plead for equitable settlement, child support, etc.
Doesn;t exist.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:29:18 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Graduate: Burt Gummer's Survival School)
To: IronJack
"The mythical long and satisfying ones?"
Mythical? My husband and I have been married for 30 years, and it gets better every year.
While you may not wish to make a real, long-term commitment or are unable to find a woman who is willing to commit to you, there are some couples around who have made that commitment and are very happy to have done so.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:30:20 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: jfritsch
LOL! True in my case!
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:30:47 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Graduate: Burt Gummer's Survival School)
To: Bubba_Leroy
Like my Grandma always said, why buy a cow when you can get the milk for free? If you just buy the milk, your not stuck with a dern cow.
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posted on
08/13/2003 10:31:05 AM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
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