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'The target must be Air Force One'
The Sun (U.K.) ^
| 08/13/03
| STEVE KENNEDY and ANDY WILKS
Posted on 08/12/2003 7:08:38 PM PDT by Pokey78
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:08:38 PM PDT
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Pokey78
To: Pokey78
Bump!
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:11:29 PM PDT
by
The Mayor
(Psalms 118:8 (NKJV) -- "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.")
To: Pokey78
And wasn't it Peter Jennings who on 9/11 speculated that the President was "hiding" by moving around in AF-1 to secure Air Force bases and those destinations were unknown to the general public until after arrival? Who knew then whether these terrorists had missles ready to launch at the plane. A very prudent precaution and in hindsight, with this story, it could have been a sorry reality.
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:20:45 PM PDT
by
CedarDave
(New slogan for the environmental whackos: "Its for the Landscape")
To: Pokey78
I wonder how this weapon compares with a Stinger? It seems to me that most people assume it was a Stinger that brought down that passenger jet over Long Island, but it sounds like it could just as easily have beem this weapon.
To: Lancey Howard
I suspect that it was a US Military missile that took down TWA Flight 800 - in a failed attempt to stop a terrorist in a bomb laden private jet from taking it out with a mid-air explosion at close range.
To: CedarDave
Yes, and Richard Cohen of the Washington Compost wrote something similar in a piece of used toilet tissue called "War Behind Schedule".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A45080-2001Nov5¬Found=true "Whatever the case, this war appears to be behind schedule. The administration, of course, will not say so. But this administration is already operating from a credibility deficit. It is hard to forget that concoction of fibs trotted out to explain and excuse Bush's hop-scotching the country on Sept. 11. Air Force One itself had been targeted, it was said; a credible threat, we were told. As it turned out, neither the threat nor the administration's account of it was credible."
No Leftist licestorm who chanted "AWOL Bush" has ever acknowledged that if Gore were the President the same rules in place that the CIA, FBI, FEMA, Secret Service, NORAD, you name it, had, whatever they are, would have been in effect.
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:31:32 PM PDT
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
To: Lancey Howard
I don't think it could have been either missile -- TWA Flight 800 was flying too high to have been brought down by any known shoulder-launched missile.
To: Pokey78
They couldnt have taken out Air Force One with this thing, AF-1 probably has every counter measure known to man on that thing.
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:31:58 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: Husker24
There was a story or report a year or so ago about the countermeasures AF-1 has. The measures it has would be prohibitive, cost wise, and understandably, for normal airplanes.
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:43:13 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Husker24
It would depend upon the distance the missile would have to travel. The countermeasures would take time to be deployed, depending on the distance involved, they could be useless in some cases. If it takes five seconds for them to deploy and it takes three seconds for the misslie to reach it's target...well, I guess you see the point.
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posted on
08/12/2003 7:46:24 PM PDT
by
SCHROLL
To: Pokey78
"The arms dealer, said to be in his sixties and of Indian origin, is due in court in Newark today. TV news channel CNN last night claimed the man had previously sold weapons to al-Qaida terrorists."
Plenty of Muslims in India. Sound like a real spigot has been turned off. Unfortunately hundreds more exist.
Keep up the good work, boys.
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posted on
08/12/2003 8:04:27 PM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
("Leave Pat, Leave!")
To: All; CedarDave; lainie; dutchess; onyx; amom; Mia T; Alamo-Girl; Carl/NewsMax
...In a new Time of War...
...In a new Century...
...With an Enemy that is now...
...Just around the Corner...
...And up your Street...
...President BUSH has promised FREEDOM's coming to the oppressed peoples & cultures of the World as our own best Self-Defense against future Terrrorist Attacks.
...Long ago HILLARY RODHAM & BILL CLINTON backed our Terrorist Enemy HO CHI MINH's Communist Victory over FREEDOM for a then Free South Vietnam during the Vietnam War.
...During the 1990's HILLARY RODHAM & BILL CLINTON refused 3 Offers from the Sudan to bring our No. 1 Terrorist Enemy OSAMA bin LADEN to the custody of a Jail & Trial that would have prevented the Attacks on us on September 11, 2001.
...President BUSH is a Champion of FREEDOM and is producing it worldwide, something HILLARY RODAH & BILL CLINTON just cannot stand =
...President BUSH is now in very grave danger as a result.
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posted on
08/12/2003 8:20:23 PM PDT
by
ALOHA RONNIE
(Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Well done!
Thanks for the ping.
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posted on
08/12/2003 8:23:08 PM PDT
by
amom
To: Brad Cloven
It IS excellent work! Unfortunately the PC media is not too quick to reveal the religion (of peace;) of the arms dealer... IMO he ain't Hindu!
To: Alberta's Child
How about a "Standard", ship launched SAM from one of the US Naval vessels in the area; those have a range of something like 100mi +. That would work!
To: Pokey78
A shoulder fired SAM wouldn't dent AF 1, even if it got through the countermeasures that AF 1 has at its disposal.
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:05:20 PM PDT
by
xrp
To: ThePythonicCow
Uhm...yeah.
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:05:35 PM PDT
by
xrp
To: Brad Cloven
There are in fact more muslims in India than in Pakistan.
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:06:31 PM PDT
by
Eurotwit
To: Atchafalaya
The Standard SM-1, SM-2MR, and SM-3 SAMs are 13 feet long. How would you fire those from your shoulder? I hope you have a fireproof suit!
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:06:57 PM PDT
by
xrp
To: Alberta's Child
Shoulder-launched, yeah. Ship-launched, that's a different story. I'm no tinfoiler, but I have often wondered about the possibility of a Standard missile from one of the Navy ships on maneuvers in the area near where TWA 800 went down.
The SA-18/SA-16 Igla is a descendant of the old SA-7 Grail, which was the Soviet bloc's first shoulder-launched infrared SAM. I guess the new ones like the Igla are probably on a par with our Stinger, or close to it. Their warheads are relatively small, a few pounds, but a few pounds of military explosive detonating next to a jetliner's turbofan engine would not be pretty.
}:-)4
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:11:01 PM PDT
by
Moose4
(I'm the moose, bring on the cheese baby!)
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