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What makes a liberal?
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2003 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 08/12/2003 7:16:34 AM PDT by Mudcat

Why do people hold liberal-left positions? (Liberal and left were once very different, but not anymore.)

This question has plagued me because I have long believed that most people, liberal or conservative, mean well. Very few people wake up in the morning planning to harm society. Yet, many liberal positions -- I emphasize liberal positions rather than liberals because most people who call themselves liberal do not hold most contemporary liberal positions -- have been wreaking havoc on America and the world.

How, then, can decent and often very smart people hold liberal positions?

There are many reasons, but the two greatest may be naivete and narcissism. Each alone causes problems, but when combined in the same person, they are particularly destructive.

At the heart of liberalism is the naive belief that people are basically good. As a result of this belief, liberals rarely blame people for the evil they do. Instead, they blame economics, parents, capitalism, racism, and anything else that can let the individual off the hook.

A second naive liberal belief is that because people are basically good, talking with people who do evil is always better than fighting, let alone killing, them. "Negotiate with Saddam," "Negotiate with the Soviets," "War never solves anything," "Think peace," "Visualize peace" -- the liberal mind is filled with naive cliches about how to deal with evil.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dennisprager; left; liberal; liberalism
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1 posted on 08/12/2003 7:16:35 AM PDT by Mudcat
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To: Mudcat
Answer: deliberate disconnection from reality. Next question...
2 posted on 08/12/2003 7:19:01 AM PDT by kesg
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To: Mudcat
What makes a liberal?

Interesting article, but it doesn't really answer the question.

The one common theme in the personalities of liberals in my acquaintance is fear at various levels (social, economic, safety, health, etc.).

3 posted on 08/12/2003 7:23:18 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (please disregard what i just said. i didn't mean it. what i meant to say was)
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To: Mudcat
Child-like" is operative. The further left you go, the less you like growing up. That is one reason so many professors are on the left. Never leaving school from kindergarten through adulthood enables one to avoid becoming a mature adult.

Being a professor is a cop out for many who are afraid to try to make it in the real world. Never really thought about it being the major reason 90% of professors are extreme leftist idiots, but it does make sense.

4 posted on 08/12/2003 7:23:18 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Gabrielle Reilly
read later.
5 posted on 08/12/2003 7:24:57 AM PDT by Gabrielle Reilly
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To: Mudcat
Answer: Dishonesty
6 posted on 08/12/2003 7:25:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Mudcat
Read "The Death of right and Wrong" by Tammy Bruce. Even some liberals can't stand liberalism.
7 posted on 08/12/2003 7:27:07 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Mudcat
fearfulness and jealousy
8 posted on 08/12/2003 7:28:27 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe ("Allow myself to introduce...myself.")
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To: Mudcat
Prager is dead on with this one.
9 posted on 08/12/2003 7:34:47 AM PDT by RichardW
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Flawed sperm and ova?
10 posted on 08/12/2003 7:38:22 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Mudcat
The liberals of today are not the liberals from yesterday.

Those liberals in their 50s and above, truely love this country. They are the real liberals the real educated ones.
They are the ones that kept the country on an even keel. Atleast In my opinion. I do atribute most of our freedom to them.

Something has happened with these younger liberals. They are mean spirited, angry, very hyperacritial and their egos are to much for me sometimes. If you dont' agree with them you are a dumb whore who is taking pay offs or you are some kind of a sheep. They have a hard time identifying with those who think differently and they can become vulgar. Their way is the right way and this is too bad for us all.
It is a shame, but some how the love peace guys became what they feared we were becoming
11 posted on 08/12/2003 7:43:17 AM PDT by hapy
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To: Mudcat
What makes a liberal?

One-word answer: lobotomy.

12 posted on 08/12/2003 7:50:18 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Mudcat
IMO,

Liberals are not primarily people who have a deep attachment to their causes.

Primarily, they are people with empty lives who deperately need something to hang on to. This more important than the rightness of the cause.
13 posted on 08/12/2003 7:52:39 AM PDT by rrr51
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To: Mudcat
At the heart of liberalism is the naive belief that people are basically good.

I would have to disagree with this. Even the author disagrees with this statement when he says, "Good and evil are not liberal words either as they imply a moral standard beyond one's feelings", in which he hits the nail on the head.

While the religious see the inherent evil in man and seek a divine guidance from the chaos which this evil creates, the Godless liberals (Yes I said Godless and meant it, Flame me if you want) see the inherent evil in man and discerns it to be the natural order of things and therefore must be normal and right and no moral judgment should be made whatsoever.

14 posted on 08/12/2003 7:54:18 AM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Mudcat
between 100 pounds of fecal matter for the small ones and 500 pounds of fecal matter for the fat ones
15 posted on 08/12/2003 7:55:03 AM PDT by Porterville ("They drew first blood, not me.")
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To: Mudcat
This makes a lot of sense to me. Especially the naive part.
16 posted on 08/12/2003 7:56:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Mudcat
"What Makes a Liberal?"

Believing what you're told in school. It's no coincidence that the heart of the American Lib/Left is in the Academy.

Those who most completely internalize the 12 years of public school propaganda are those best suited to take positions in government.

The American nomenclatura is little different from the former Soviet Russian variety.

They possess a tad more smarmy hypocrisy, perhaps.
17 posted on 08/12/2003 8:01:27 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Mudcat
Liberalism = Godlessness. They are "liberated" from all absolutes.

As autonomous ("auto" - self, "nomous" - law) entities, they are free to make up all their own rules as they go.

18 posted on 08/12/2003 8:05:13 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Mudcat
INTSUM
19 posted on 08/12/2003 8:10:29 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Mudcat
don't get up......I'll get it

REST OF ARTICLE:
Indeed, the very use of the word "evil" greatly disturbs liberals. It shakes up their child-like views of the world, that everybody is at heart a decent person who is either misunderstood or led to do unfortunate things by outside forces.

"Child-like" is operative. The further left you go, the less you like growing up. That is one reason so many professors are on the left. Never leaving school from kindergarten through adulthood enables one to avoid becoming a mature adult. It is no wonder a liberal professor has recently argued that children should have the vote. He knows in his heart that he is not really an adult, so why should he and not a chronologic child be allowed to vote?

The second major source of modern liberalism is narcissism, the unhealthy preoccupation with oneself and one's feelings. We live in the Age of Narcissism. As a result of unprecedented affluence and luxury, preoccupation with one's psychological state, and a hedonistic culture, much of the West, America included, has become almost entirely feelings-directed.

That is one reason "feelings" and "compassion" are two of the most often used liberal terms. "Character" is no longer a liberal word because it implies self-restraint. "Good and evil" are not liberal words either as they imply a moral standard beyond one's feelings. In assessing what position to take on moral or social questions, the liberal asks him or herself, "How do I feel about it?" or "How do I show the most compassion?" not "What is right?" or "What is wrong?" For the liberal, right and wrong are dismissed as unknowable, and every person chooses his or her own morality.

A good example of liberal narcissism is the liberal position on abortion. For the liberal, the worth of a human fetus, whether it is allowed to live or to be extinguished, is entirely based on the feelings of the mother. If the mother wants to give birth, the fetus is of incomparable worth; if the mother doesn't, the fetus has the value of a decayed tooth.

There are not many antidotes to this lethal combination of naivete and narcissism. Both are very comfortable states compared to growing up and confronting evil, and compared to making one's feelings subservient to a higher standard. And comfortable people don't like to be made uncomfortable.

Hence the liberal attempt to either erase the Judeo-Christian code or at least remove its influence from public life. Nothing could provide a better example of contemporary liberalism than the liberal battle to remove the Ten Commandments from all public places. Liberals want suggestions, not commandments.

20 posted on 08/12/2003 8:31:40 AM PDT by laotzu
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