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Bustamante Must Not Win - How to Beat Him
8-11-03

Posted on 08/11/2003 9:39:35 AM PDT by tallhappy

Bustamante Must Not Win

Democrat Strategy

The recall candidates are all filed and set. The democrats have held solidarity as much as possible with Cruz Bustamante, the incumbent Lt. Governor as their only candidate. They have decided on their campaign: Recall No, Cruz yes. Their strategy is to urge a no vote on the recall combined with a vote for Bustamante for Governor in the event Davis is recalled.

As Lt. Governor, the dems have determined that he “has dibs” on the Governorship, as Frank del Olmo put it in an op-ed piece in the LA Times. The dems came to understand that it was too chancy to show solidarity with Davis by not running a candidate. If Davis were to lose the recall vote, such a strategy would guarantee a Republican Governor in October. So the Lt. Governor became the choice. This strategy fits best with their line of attack that this is a process set in place to pull off a coup d’etat and wrest power unfairly. If Davis is to be unseated, at least the Governorship of Bustamante can be played as the proper adherence to the line of succession and the dems will claim they brought at least some sanity to a crazy unfair process.

So the dems have coalesced around at least one candidate. This assures they will get about 40% of the vote for Governor.

Republicans May Lose

On the other hand the Republicans have three candidates, Tom McClintock, a State Senator, Bill Simon, Davis’ opponent in the last gubernatorial election and Arnold Schwarzenegger, a movie star. This means the vote will be split between the three and the odds of any one candidate garnering enough of the vote to surpass the vote total of Bustamante, the only Democrat in the field, is low.

In other words, we very well may lose this recall election as well.

We may lose outright in that Davis may not be recalled, but worse, if he is, the dems may have out maneuvered the California Republicans yet again.

It is imperative that a Bustamante victory be thwarted. The only way to do this is to rally behind one Republican candidate well before the October 7 election.

The question then is: which candidate? Schwarzeneger would seem the obvious candidate for this, but McClintock and Simon supporters would take umbrage at such an assumption. I say, fair enough. What we need to do is go at it. Each candidate makes his case over the next month. Let the Republican Party conduct the best polling possible to see accurate numbers of support among the three candidates. By Monday, September 8, almost one full month before the election, the two trailing candidates pull out of the race and endorse – and campaign for – the frontrunner.

This is the way it has to be. It lets the three candidates make their cases and then we, as Republicans and conservatives, pull together to support the one who is most likely to beat Bustamante.

And, during this month of campaigning to decide which one Republican candidate to rally behind, the candidates cannot campaign negatively against the other Republicans. That is counterproductive and also avoids the main issue which is Democrat rule has hurt California.

It is of utmost importance not to let Bustamante win. All three candidates need to agree to this strategy. They should easily accept it. If not, very real pressure needs to be put on them in terms of future support and financial allocation from Republican coffers if they hold out and contribute to a Buatamante win. Hopefully it won’t come down to anything like that.

We can and will win if we work together for the same goal of recalling Davis and electing a Republican candidate.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2003; allornothinglosers; arnold; arnoldwillwin; bustamante; california; goarnoldgo; keysters; losers4mcclintock; mcclintock; mcclintockistas; mcclinton; mcloser; mcmarginalized; recallelection; schwarzenegger; simon; tomwho; vote4arnold; winners4arnold
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1 posted on 08/11/2003 9:39:36 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Fuuny how when Arnold wasn't running there was no problem, now he's being pushed as the only R who can win.

From what I've seen of his positions it would be a damn shallow victory.
2 posted on 08/11/2003 10:04:20 AM PDT by steve50
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To: tallhappy
Bustamante would be a total disaster. I'd vogte for him only if he were up against Flynt.
3 posted on 08/11/2003 10:04:57 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: steve50
The salient point is that the dems have coalesced around one candidate to maximise their vote.

A split Republican ticket with no Democrats would win. A split ticket with only one Democrat won't.

4 posted on 08/11/2003 10:16:21 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
So Cruz wins. Then BK the state, stop the handouts - now the freeloaders will see just how compassionate their dems are - and then the next election we will vote in the primary a real conservative who will win. We may even clean up in the Cal senate & legislature. Let's just stick with true conservative candidates & one day we will prevail.
5 posted on 08/11/2003 10:18:11 AM PDT by Digger
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To: tallhappy
Motor-Voter will come into play, "big time," if Gray signs the bill authorizing illegal aliens the right to obtain CA driver's licenses!

I shudder to think of how many of the "grateful unto Gray" might actually vote!

Cut-off date for registration in this recall election is September 22. Gray has plenty of time to "buy votes."


6 posted on 08/11/2003 10:19:58 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: steve50
From what I've seen of his positions it would be a damn shallow victory.

JMO, but any "victory" will always be a shallow victory to you.

To me a victory is a victory, and you work from there.

But how could you work from "there" since you it seems you are so hell bent in burning the bridges.

7 posted on 08/11/2003 10:20:38 AM PDT by Dane
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To: tallhappy
Bustamente is still a part of of the administration that sunk California into the ocean. I don't see where he did anything to help.

If anything, he and his organization, La Raza, probably helped tank California.
8 posted on 08/11/2003 10:29:45 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: tallhappy
California wants change. They need to get rid of the entire adminstration; not just Davis.
9 posted on 08/11/2003 10:31:25 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: tallhappy
The choices to replace Davis are very gray indeed.
We have a very liberal Kennedy Republican sucking up most of the GOP Vote while Simon flounders at 5% in the polls. The Democrats are running a Hispanic who will win 80% of the Hispanic vote and win the election with ease if Davis is recalled.

Perhaps the best option would be to vote NO on the recall to prevent Cruz from being elected.
10 posted on 08/11/2003 10:34:53 AM PDT by jsbankston
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To: jsbankston
You make good points. Still even Schwarzenegger is better than Gray or Cruz.
11 posted on 08/11/2003 10:39:11 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Dane
To me a victory is a victory, and you work from there.

You sound like one of those women who, desperate for a husband, marry the wrong man and think they'll "change him".

McClintock seems to be a fairly sound conservative. I'd think he would get some support, if only to pull Arnie a little right. Seems to be a lot of room on that side of him.

But go ahead and take the lowest common denominator route, it's worked so well the last 50 years. Kalifornia probably does need stricter gun laws.

12 posted on 08/11/2003 10:42:02 AM PDT by steve50
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To: tallhappy
They should wait until closer to Election Day to ask others to drop out. This is still a campaign against Gray Davis. Give him many targets to hit, not fewer.
13 posted on 08/11/2003 10:44:31 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Willie Green for President...)
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To: steve50
You sound like one of those women who, desperate for a husband, marry the wrong man and think they'll "change him".

Oh sheesh stop the old and tired "battered wife" syndrome malcontent arguement.

If you would actually look at recent Califonia election results, it is the "death before electiblity" Republicans who are the battered ones.

Lundgren in 98, and Simon running against an inept Davis in 02.

14 posted on 08/11/2003 10:45:55 AM PDT by Dane
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To: steve50
If you would actually look at recent Califonia election results, it is the "death before electiblity" Republicans who are the battered ones

BTW, steve it seems that you are the one, you wishes to get "battered" again, IMO.

But you can always say to yourself, "I have a black eye and loss in the electoral arena", but I have my pride.

JMO, but it seems you get an mental orgasm on that type of rhetoric.

15 posted on 08/11/2003 10:49:44 AM PDT by Dane
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To: tallhappy
1) 40% is not assured. It is likely only if the population voting in the recall is a representative sample of the state as a whole. Also, that population would have to vote in accordance with their previous voting patterns.

2) Turnout is a big Dem problem. Why should the NTA man phones for Gov. Gray?

3) Bustamante has an association problem he's already trying to kick. As Lt. Gov. he claims to have met with Govenuh Gray about 3 times in the last 4+ years.

The Dems are in a world of hurt in Ca. They've ruined the state and it's coming home to roost. Mulholland wasn't speaking figuratively when he spoke of using real bullets.
16 posted on 08/11/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: .cnI redruM
I agree.

Yet, even at 30% Cruz can win with split vote.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 11:20:02 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Digger
So Cruz wins.

Very probable and very bad. It will not convert liberal freeloaders; it will create more of them. If necessary, take the shallow victory (if we don't win, then they do); take the lesser of two evils (yeah, it's still evil); don't wait all your life for someone to "earn" your vote; forget about principle and conscience — they may be warped, so why take the chance.

18 posted on 08/11/2003 11:21:20 AM PDT by Consort
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To: tallhappy
Time for sinkEmperor clintoon to run for CA governor. Can the dems in CA make changes to the CA law in order to get him on the ballot? Let's talk this up ... distract attention from the dem dipwads trying to get attention in their 'sprint for nomination'.
19 posted on 08/11/2003 11:24:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: onyx
The legislation, SB 60, is not an Urgency statute, so it would not go into effect until Jan 1, 2004 if signed. You are very correct about this scenario playing out in future elections, so we gotta win this one for sure!
20 posted on 08/11/2003 11:24:50 AM PDT by ScottinSacto (www.rtumble.com for all the CA political news)
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