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Disney, Homosexuals and the Free Market
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/08/03 | Scott Hogenson

Posted on 08/08/2003 11:00:10 AM PDT by kattracks

A growing number of conservatives are at odds with Disney and the homosexual movement over 'Gay Days,' a June event in which homosexuals converge on various Disney properties and associated establishments in Orlando, Florida and environs.

While this event is not formally sanctioned by Disney - it's grown from a local grass-roots homosexual movement into an event of global notoriety - one must presume that 'Gay Days' is in Disney's best interest.

Forget for a moment from whose pocket the money comes during this observance; it's all green and it all adds to the corporate bottom line and those of Disney's shareholders. From a purely free market perspective, this could be called all well and good. Business is business and it's safe to say 'Gay Days' will continue until it no longer contributes to Disney's corporate success.

This begs the question of what would be required to shift 'Gay Days' from a financial positive to a financial negative. Consider the case of Virginia Beach in the late 1980s.

Throughout that decade, college kids increasingly came to Virginia Beach for a final end-of-summer blowout over the Labor Day weekend before heading back to school. As time went by, this informal congregation of college kids grew and came to be known as Greekfest, a reference to the fraternity and sorority status of many attendees.

By 1989, the Virginia Beach Labor Day event had grown to such proportions that some 100,000 kids would converge on the resort city. The consumer dollars spent and tax dollars collected were an economic boon for the area. Unfortunately, that was the year this unsanctioned event erupted into a two-day riot, which left several kids dead and millions in property damage, not to mention the damage to the city's reputation, which lingered for years afterward.

In the case of Virginia Beach, it took a full scale riot replete with M-16 toting National Guardsmen to realize that Greekfest was no longer an asset but a liability. It compromised the brand Virginia Beach wanted to present to the public, so the city took steps to reinforce the brand image of being a family resort venue.

The city established a Labor Day Task Force Commission, which assumed the chores of figuring out what led to the 1989 riots and how to prevent a repeat of that spectacle.

Over the years, a series of measures were implemented, ranging from increased police patrols to the 'Beach Behavior Campaign,' and increased surveillance measures, some of which were quite controversial and raised legitimate civil liberties questions.

A crescendo was struck this spring when city officials leaned on hoteliers to cancel their accommodation of the "Sexology Expo," an event featuring porno-movie actresses and a variety of sex oriented events, among other things.

The cancellation of the Sexology Expo generated its own controversy over stifling free expression and so forth, but Virginia Beach made a decision; pornography conventions were inconsistent with the brand image the city wanted to project.

What Virginia Beach essentially did was decide to target one segment of the marketplace at the expense of another. It was less a moral decision, as some critics argued, as it was a business decision.

This is a question Disney may soon have to answer for itself insofar as 'Gay Days' is concerned. Which segment of the market does Disney wish to exploit; the segment comprised of families looking for a quality vacation venue or a segment comprised of people from a societal fringe?

For the time being, it appears Disney wants both markets, and who can blame them? It means (theoretically) more revenues, more profits and higher shareholder returns. The larger question is whether they will be able to successfully continue tapping into both markets.

The company, while not formally sanctioning 'Gay Days,' certainly appears to cater to the clientele of this event, based on video of certain Disney entertainment venues taken by the Christian Action Network, which opposes the 'Gay Days' observance.

Maybe Disney can continue its appeal for both the family and homosexual resort markets; maybe it can't. In either case, the company per se probably will not determine Disney's market reach as much as the marketplace will determine it. Those in their respective markets will primarily answer the question of which market segment provides the greatest return for Disney.

It's a safe bet that 'Gay Days' will continue until it becomes a financial liability for Disney. Until then, conservatives opposed to the homosexual gathering will need more than righteous indignation to make their point.

Scott Hogenson is executive editor of CNSNews.com.

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To: FormerLib
# 7 is right on target!
21 posted on 08/09/2003 7:13:06 AM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: kattracks
Parents must keep their children away from homosexuals! What could parents who believe homosexuality is a normal expression be thinking when confronted with the facts?

The homosexual historical footprint is large when it comes to the rape and murder of children. The most notorious child killer might be Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard), remembered for raping, torturing, and killing perhaps 800 boys in 15th century France. Gilles often raped the boy as he hung from a hook by the neck. Before he died, Gilles took him down, comforted him, repeated the act and either killed him himself or had him slain. In his confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the said children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed...”

At the turn of the 19th century, “hobos” or “bums” in the U.S. were often driven from towns because it was believed that they were responsible for raping and killing boys. Even the murder of a boy by homosexual lovers Leopold and Loeb in 1924, then called the “crime of the century,” likely involved rape. As of July 23, 2001, the Associated Press list of the worst serial killers in the United States was topped by Donald Harvey, followed by John Wayne Gacy, Patrick Kearney, Bruce Davis and Dean Corll in descending number of victims (www.crimelibrary.com). All these perpetrators of serial crimes in the 1970s and 1980s engaged in homosexuality, and the majority of the victims for the last four killers were boys.

Nevertheless, girls get raped and murdered too. Homosexual activists would have us believe that heterosexual abductions are far more common than homosexual child molestations. Perhaps our society has been so slanted against homosexuality that homosexuals are themselves victims of biased historical reporting. If so, what is the situation today? With our modern professional class Ñ including the media Ñ generally in favor of gay rights, it would seem likely that there ought to be minimal reporting bias against homosexuals in the coverage of child molestation cases. So the question remains: are those who engage in homosexuality disproportionately apt to engage in the rape and murder of children?

Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe, an on-line search service, scans the whole text of over 50 English regional and national newspapers, largely in the U.S., but also including major papers in Australia, England, Canada, and New Zealand (e.g., the Baltimore Sun, Boston Globe, Independent [London], Ottawa Citizen, etc.). For 1989 through 2002 inclusive, every news story that included “child molestation” was examined Ñ a total of 6,444 stories which, after eliminating repeat stories about the same cases, reduced to 1,914 unique child molestation events. The 6,444 story database was double-checked by running “murder” and “killed” against it. Only news stories were tallied, not editorials or opinion pieces, so these were stories of fairly recent events.

One hundred and three news stories involved the rape and/or murder of children: 90 involved the molestation and murder of a child or children, 11 stories involved only the abduction and rape of children, and two the rape and mutilation, but not the murder, of the children involved. Of the 90 news stories where the child was raped and murdered (0.47% of the unique child molestation stories), 40% involved homosexual molestation.

In the most unusual case, an “educated and relatively wealthy” leader recruited two other men and a boy. This team raped and murdered precisely 100 boys1. The leader had had prior arrests for suspicion of sodomizing boys, but his social status kept him from being convicted for many years. In another case, a man molested and killed 9 children of unreported sex.

Of the 95 perpetrators in these 90 stories, at least 43% engaged in homosexuality. These included 39 men, a boy, and a woman who all engaged in homosexuality, and 47 men and 7 boys who engaged in heterosexuality with victims. Of the 217 victims, at least 68% were victimized by homosexual perpetrators, and at least 67% were boys. Boys were also mutilated in the two stories involving mutilation. Furthermore, both multiple perpetrators and multiple victims were associated with homosexuality. In the three stories where two or more killers were implicated, the rapes were homosexual. In 69% of the 13 stories involving more than one victim, the perpetrator engaged in homosexuality. Another 11 stories involved a charge of attempted murder. In 64% of those cases, the perpetrator engaged in homosexuality.

When all other cases of child molestation from the Lexis-Nexis search are added to these stories, there were 2,181 perpetrators in the 1,914 distinct events whose sexual proclivities could be characterized by the sex of their victim: 41% engaged in sex with their own sex, the remaining 59% with the opposite sex (another 118 perpetrators violated at least 190 children whose sex was not given). Of the 5,630 underage victims of these molestations, 61% were victimized by individuals who engaged in homosexuality. And those who performed homosexual seductions were quite one-sided: 3,386 of their victims were boys, only 60 were girls. Overall, there was a slightly higher rate of homosexuality among perpetrators who raped and killed than among those who “merely” raped or molested (43% vs. 41%). In addition, the proportion of victims attributed to homosexual perpetrators who raped and murdered was higher than the proportion attributed to homosexuals who only raped or molested (68% vs. 61%). All of the cases involving eating or torturing the victim were committed by homosexual practitioners.

The newspapers indexed by Academic Universe undoubtedly concentrate upon events that occur in urban areas. Nonetheless, since the rape and murder of a child is of such widespread interest, a considerable proportion of such events outside of urban areas were probably also cited in these newspapers. It may even be true that the proportions of perpetrators and victims in this sample are roughly representative of what has recently happened in the industrialized world. Contrary to the claims of homosexual activists, history seems to have repeated itself. The past 14 years give every indication that those who engage in homosexuality are still disproportionately involved in the rapes and murders of children. Likewise, the few instances of mutilation also implicated homosexuals. The historical record disproportionately implicating homosexuals in the rape, torture, and murder of children appears to be in harmony with more recent events.

Murder and child molestation combine in the rape and murder of a child. These two social problems are also independently associated with those who engage in homosexuality. Blanchard, Barbaree, Bogaert, Dicky, Klassen, Kuban, and Zucker, working with male offenders, concluded in 2000 that2 the “best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer menÉ; in contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys.... Thus the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-20 times higher among pedophiles [those who have sex with children under the age of 12 yr.]” (p. 464).

Likewise, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III-R (DSM III-R, 1987)3 of the American Psychiatric Association, summarizing the clinical material about men, states that “Attraction to girls [aged 13 yr. or younger] is apparently twice as common as attraction to boys” and notes that the “course is usually chronic, especially in those attracted to boys.... The recidivism rate for people with Pedophilia involving a preference for the same sex is roughly twice that of those who prefer the opposite sex” (pp. 284-5).

Both of these sources estimated that about a third of child molesters engage in homosexuality Ñ similar to the 41% of male perpetrators who ‘only’ raped the underage in the newspaper database. In other studies4, it has also been found that male perpetrators who engage in homosexuality claim larger numbers of rape victims than non-homosexual rapists. For instance, 84% of the 28,574 children under the age of 14 who were raped in Abel, et al. were victimized by homosexuals. Also, the higher rates of recidivism by homosexuals noted in the DSM would imply more victims too.

In line with these reports, of the 217 victims in the 90 murder and rape stories, at least 68% were victimized by homosexual perpetrators. This 68% falls between the estimate that “roughly equal numbers of girls and boys, each year fall victim to some form of sexual exploitation” cited in a recent National Association of Social Workers review of a large set of studies of child molestation5 and the 84% reported by Abel, et al.

Murder also appears to be disproportionately associated with homosexuality. Jim Warren did the intake interview for almost all younger murderers (i.e., those under age 36) at the Washington State Corrections Center from 1971-82. In an interview in 1994, Warren opined that he was “probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files.” Warren said that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases. Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the early 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, he said that “about 50% of the time” it was associated with homosexuality. Typically, he said, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Eventually, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead.

In Amsterdam, police spokesmen have stated that in “one out of four of all murder cases the victim was homosexual” (quoted by Gemert, 1994, p. 150)6. Gemert opined that “[e]lderly homosexual men often don’t have much to do in daily life. When they know that they will be unwanted in the gay world in the future, they will... seek this form of excitement. Visiting Central Station and ‘hunting’ boys is very important to them” (p. 172). Gemert thus offers a theory about the linkage between child molestation, murder and homosexuality Ñ albeit, one that accounts for the high rate at which homosexuals are murdered by boys, not why they in turn disproportionately rape and murder boys.

These perverts, by attacking churches and getting their own installed as bishops, are aiming to separate youngsters from their families for easy pickings. America and the world had better flush this PC, diversity crap down the toilet for the sake of our young people if for no other reason.

22 posted on 08/09/2003 7:25:54 AM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman
They had a plan for the 90s - they wanted it to be the "gay 90s." They planned to force their employment as elementary school teachers. They didn't anticipate AIDS -"the just recompence of their error." When you recoil at one of their outrages the next time, think about how nasty they'd be without the plague.
23 posted on 08/09/2003 7:26:53 AM PDT by 185JHP ( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
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To: mvpel
Exactly - which is why exerting market force is an appropriate way to get Disney to deal with "Gay Days" differently.

We have a right to not show up at the park and spend money there, if the park is not a safe and healthy place to bring the kiddies.
24 posted on 08/09/2003 7:38:20 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: JesseHousman
"... while the homosexual agenda is being pushed to elementary school children, starting in kindergarten."


Indeed

Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton

25 posted on 08/09/2003 7:41:41 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: mvpel
I thought conservatives were supposed to support the Constitution, in particular the right to freely assemble.

And just where do you get the idea that conservatives support using the government to prevent homosexuals from converging en mass on Disneyworld?

Maybe you're referencing a different constitution.

26 posted on 08/09/2003 7:46:02 AM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: mvpel
I thought conservatives were supposed to support the Constitution, in particular the right to freely assemble.

Your remark is waaaay off target. Are you one of those "anything goes" guys who wouldn't mind if half naked perverts of any sexual persuasion freely assembled in front of your house? If so, why don't you post your address? Do you have children? If so, I suppose you'll be fine with taking them to Gay Days at Disney so they can be "tolerant" while observing sexual displays up close and personally.

Walt Disney was all about entertaining children. The "all about money and homos" group who are now running Disney are determined to force acceptance of a deviant lifestyle onto others. I hope their decision results in the hugest backlash ever, in spite of people like you.
27 posted on 08/09/2003 7:48:34 AM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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28 posted on 08/09/2003 7:49:55 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: diamond6
I get a Catholic publication that has an ad for a long distance company Sienna (if memory serves). The ad claims that MCI and others should not be used because they support/ Porno phone lines ect.

I can get the ad if you want all the details.

So I see their point. But alot of Companies support agendas that I don't.

It is hard to ban all these companies.

On the Gay day thing what in the world are they doing having sex at Disneyworld (according to blurbs I caught on O'Reilly).
They also allow men to dress up like Cinderalla and dance along the parade?

When I went to Disney it was very strict about folks getting in the way of the parade(Ilast went 15yrs ago).

We should fight for a Christian Day at Disney. The gay agenda in MO has ruined Disney as a family place.

All kids should have a chance to exp. Disney but now that is ruined due to a few who thrive on perversion.

Disney has a responsibility to let common folks know it is Gay week at Disney.

I would be very angry if I went on a vacation and spent hard saved money at a place that turns into Sodem and Gomorah.

I hope a huge backlash comes about with all the sex rights agenda Rainbow people wanting to stuff their lifestyle down others throats.

I wonder what the effect has been on other theme parks.


What's next Louis and Clark were Gay? For God's sake! I pray that this whole in your face Gay crap blows up right in this segment of society's face, Big time.
29 posted on 08/09/2003 8:14:42 AM PDT by oceanperch ( I demand chaste day at Disney!: ))
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To: JesseHousman
Well said.

Gee I wonder when my dogs are going to have rights as my kids. I treat them as if they were my children shouldn't they be treated as such by society and such. NOT. MO about those choosing a perverted lifestyle.

30 posted on 08/09/2003 8:20:13 AM PDT by oceanperch ( I demand chaste day at Disney!: ))
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To: demkicker
Your remark is waaaay off target. Are you one of those "anything goes" guys who wouldn't mind if half naked perverts of any sexual persuasion freely assembled in front of your house?

The only photos of half-naked perverts during Gay Day at Disney that I've seen were taken in a private meeting hall rented by the group, to which the general public was not invited.

All the other photos of Gay Day I've seen taken in public venues involved a bunch of fully clothed, red-shirted, mustachioed men and ocassionally braless women having an ordinary, run-of-the-mill fun time at the park.

31 posted on 08/09/2003 11:57:14 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
You obviously didn't see the pictures that O'Reilly showed on his program this week. You seem to be concluding that Gay Days is an innocent wholesome get together amongst homosexuals. I've seen seen and heard of numerous graphic sexual displays at Disneyworld during Gay Days.

Simply put, Disney should not tolerate ANY type of public displays of a sexual nature in their park. I'm willing to bet that besides you, most FReepers wouldn't want their kids exposed to militant gays who have co-opted what used to be a great family vacation experience.
32 posted on 08/09/2003 3:39:54 PM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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To: Kevin Curry
Great point. I can't believe mvpel is bashing conservatives on this one...
33 posted on 08/09/2003 3:44:26 PM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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To: demkicker
I have seen pictures of graphic sexual displays from Gay Day - men cavorting mostly or completely naked on a stage.

Are these the photos to which you're referring?

The stage in question, as I understand it, was in a private ballroom, not out in front of the EPCOT Center viewable by passerby. Have you heard, or do you know, anything different?

By the way, I don't consider two men or two women holding hands to be a "graphic sexual display."
34 posted on 08/11/2003 7:14:18 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Mamzelle
What are the days that homosexuals converge on Disney--the dates, that is?

Jan 1 to Dec 31. Far too many fags at disney parks. They employ far too many sexual perverts to trust being around my children.

Remember the third rule of homosexuality:

Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse

Disney as a family vacation destination has died

35 posted on 08/12/2003 6:38:53 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: kattracks
BOYCOTT DISNEY: a vortex of seductive evil™
36 posted on 08/12/2003 6:44:32 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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