1 posted on
08/07/2003 8:27:02 PM PDT by
AZ GRAMMY
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To: AZ GRAMMY
Who will get out first. Illegal immigrants or the Americans detaining them.
2 posted on
08/07/2003 8:32:14 PM PDT by
Bogey78O
(The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
To: AZ GRAMMY
This nation won't last much longer. Just enjoy the ride-I give the implosion a 20 year countdown.
3 posted on
08/07/2003 8:32:41 PM PDT by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: AZ GRAMMY
It is good that these vigilante criminals who commit aggravated assault and unlawful imprisonment are being prosecuted for their crimes. Vigilantism erodes justice.
To: AZ GRAMMY
They did not physically assault the illegals, so what's the problem? They should be commended.
11 posted on
08/07/2003 8:45:25 PM PDT by
Bigg Red
To: AZ GRAMMY
"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."That's the truth. It's also the truth that we can't have our law enforcement agencies not doing their jobs, or not receiving the support required for them to do their jobs.
16 posted on
08/07/2003 8:49:37 PM PDT by
squidly
To: AZ GRAMMY
Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said. Oh yeah, that'll work. Sure. Thanks for the advice. What is the spanish word for "stay put"? I'm sure the "group" will wait patiently for law enforcement to arrive while you stand by them unarmed. Any beverage suggestions while we all wait?
To: AZ GRAMMY
alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants Spark, spritz, zap, pop... Does Not Compute...
How can there be and unlawful detention of illegal immigrants? (Unless excessive force were used, beyond that necessary to stop and detain them, while assuring the safety of those doing the detaining, which as far as I can see is not being alleged)
63 posted on
08/07/2003 9:23:54 PM PDT by
El Gato
To: AZ GRAMMY
"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies." And of course we can't have the law enforcement agencies do this work either, obviously! This gets more absurd by the minute.
69 posted on
08/07/2003 9:26:54 PM PDT by
DoughtyOne
("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
To: AZ GRAMMY
I can see this kind of action or inaction by law enforcement causing some violence against illegal trespassers if they keep tagging our citizens like that.
You would think you could by law detain trespassers or illegal border crossers.
So it is unlawful to detain an invasion from foreign soil? Weird thinking.
93 posted on
08/07/2003 9:40:02 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: AZ GRAMMY
Stupid question ... but has the Border Patrol or the Sheriff Department tried working with these groups that are watching the borders?
104 posted on
08/07/2003 9:48:50 PM PDT by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: AZ GRAMMY
detained a group of six illegal immigrants that had just entered the United States through the Colorado River. Sounds like they were a little closer than 10 miles from the border.
He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol
Like the Border Patrol cares or would round up the illegals. Anybody calling in and reporting illegal aliens would probably be charged with racism and a hate crime by the local D.A. Then there would be a civil trial crying suffering and a big award. DoughtyOne has a great list, and I'll take the liberty of reposting it...
Let me see if I've got this right. Citizenship today guarantees...
1. You get to compete with cents an hour overseas employees for your job
2. You can't afford medical coverage, to take vacations or to save for your retirement on what you earn, and your employer doesn't contribute to any of these
3. Your neighborhood has been overrun by third world individuals who make about the same salary you do, only under the table
4. You can't afford to support your own family, but the folks mentioned in item 3 can afford to send billions collectively back to the old country, further decaying economic activity in your neighborhood
5. 50 to 75% of the people in your own home town don't speak English and want to forsake US holidays and celebrate those from the old country
6. Your president fails to notice your income status, but thinks people from other nations need billions of dollars worth of supports
7. While you don't have the funds for medical care, the foreign national gets it for free
8. While you can't afford to send your kid to college, the foreign national get free k-12 education for his children to the tune of $80 to $120 thousand dollars.
9. Your children get a small discount on their college tuition if they are instate, because you worked your whole life paying taxes to support these programs. The foreign national's children get these discounts because, well just because. It doesn't matter if most their parent's income was under the table thus avoiding taxes.
10. While your wife gets strip searched or x-rayed at the airport, revealing the most intimate of her personal anatomy, our borders remain wide open, people from terrorist states STILL entering our nation. Your bank and your state recognize foreign IDs which are not secure and may actually facilitate the monetary transactions of terrorists. While you have to provide secure ID at airports, the illegal alien can now obtain the same ID without secure documentation in a growing number of states in our nation.
11. While your family endures this treatment at our airports, merchandise crossing our borders passes thorugh 95 to 98% uninspected. It receives better treatment than it's human counterparts.
12. While you see fewer movies and go out to eat less often, the government redistributes what funds you to take home, giving it to people who do not pay income taxes at all.
13. If you are married, you pay more taxes than if you and your wife weren't. Fixing this just wouldn't be reasonable.
14. The crowning act? When your governor and the president celebrate the day that American citizens make up less than 50% of your states population.
106 posted on
08/07/2003 9:50:52 PM PDT by
eldoradude
(Save endangered feces - ban Ex-lax!)
To: AZ GRAMMY
Jorge Bush is not going to do a d*** thing about the illegals invading our country and the pub's are not even talking about the illegal alien problem anymore. Sick!
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I am surprised that someone has not yet pointed out (that I saw anyway) that the "alleged" illegal aliens were being monitored by authorities, but authorities were only dispatched when it was seen the the illegals were being detained by private citizens. What is up with that?
210 posted on
08/07/2003 11:05:10 PM PDT by
Geritol
To: AZ GRAMMY
I physically held a man who was harrassing a woman until the police came. They arrested him, not me! Why is this different?
218 posted on
08/07/2003 11:11:24 PM PDT by
Khepera
(Do not remove by penalty of law!)
To: AZ GRAMMY
"He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol,...."I assume this is so that they may be given a limousine ride to their ultimate destination to deliver drugs, pick tomatoes, or whatever.
To: AZ GRAMMY
What a crock of sh--!
To: AZ GRAMMY
It is the police who should be arrested and the police should be fired for not doing their jobs.
To: AZ GRAMMY
Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said.Y'all just stand there for a while while I make a call.
To: AZ GRAMMY
What happened to "citizen's arrest." If you held a burglar until the cops showed up it would be OK. What on earth is going on in this country?
To: AZ GRAMMY
The Feds can't do it - so?
333 posted on
08/08/2003 9:18:11 AM PDT by
sandydipper
(Never quit - never surrender!)
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