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Breakdown of yes-no votes on gay Episcopal bishop
Episcopal News Service ^ | August 6, 03 | Richelle Thompson

Posted on 08/06/2003 2:06:23 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Breakdown of bishops' vote on Robinson 62 yes, 43 no; 2 not voting

Richelle Thompson Episcopal News Service Posted: 8/6/2003

Votes on the consent to the election of the Rev. Canon V. Gene Robinson as bishop coadjutor of the Diocese of New Hampshire:

Yes

Adams III, Gladstone B. – Central New York Alexander, John Neil – Atlanta Alvarez, David – Puerto Rico Bainbridge III, Harry B. – Idaho Bennison, Jr., Charles E. – Pennsylvania Bruno, Jon – Los Angeles Caldwell, Bruce – Wyoming Chane, John – Washington Chang, Richard S.O. – Hawaii Creighton, Michael W. – Central Pennsylvania Croneberger, John P. – Newark Curry, Michael – North Carolina Daniel III, Clifton – East Carolina Ely, Thomas Clark – Vermont Frade, Leopold – Southeast Florida Garrison, J. Michael – Western New York Gepert, Robert R. – Western Michigan Gibbs, Jr., Wendell N. – Michigan Gregg, William O. – Eastern Oregon Grew II, J. Clark – Ohio Griswold, Frank – Convocation of American Churches in Europe Gulick, Jr., Edwin F. – Kentucky Howe, Barry R. – West Missouri Ihloff, Robert W. – Maryland Irish, Carolyn T. – Utah Jefferts Schori, Katharine – Nevada Jelinek, James L. – Minnesota Johnson, Robert H. – Western North Carolina Kelsey, James A. – Northern Michigan Knudsen, Chilton R. – Maine Ladehoff, Robert L. – Oregon Lamb, Jerry A. – Northern California Lee, Peter J. – Virginia Leidel, Jr., Edwin M. – Eastern Michigan MacDonald, Mark L. – Alaska Marshall, Paul V. – Bethlehem Maze, Larry E. – Arkansas McKelvey, Jack M. – Rochester Moody, Robert M. – Oklahoma Persell, William D. – Chicago Plummer, Steven T. – Navajoland Area Mission Powell, F. Neff – Southwestern Virginia Robertson, Creighton L. – South Dakota Sauls, Stacy F. – Lexington Scarfe, Alan – Iowa Shahan, Robert R. – Arizona Shand, James J. – Easton Shaw III, SSJE, M. Thomas – Massachusetts Shimpfky, Richard L. – El Camino Real Sisk, Mark S. – New York Smalley, William E. – Kansas Smith, Andrew D. – Connecticut Smith, George Wayne – Missouri Swing, William E. – California Theuner, Douglas E. – New Hampshire Waggoner, James Edward – Spokane Walker, Jr., Orris G. – Long Island Warner, Vincent W. – Olympia Waynick, Catherine M. – Indianapolis Winterrowd, William J. – Colorado Wolf, Geralyn – Rhode Island Wright, Wayne P. – Delaware

No

Ackerman, Keith L. – Quincy Adams, Jr., James M. – Western Kansas Allen, Lloyd – Honduras Bane, Jr., David C. – Southern Virginia Beckwith, Peter H. – Springfield Daniels, Theodore A. – Virgin Islands Duncan II, Philip M. – Central Gulf Coast Duncan, Jr., Robert W. – Pittsburgh Duque-Gomez, Francisco – Colombia Duracin, Jean – Haiti Fairfield, Andrew H. – North Dakota Folts, James E. – West Texas Gray III, Duncan Montgomery – Mississippi Henderson, Dorsey – Upper South Carolina Herlong, Bertram N. – Tennessee Herzog, Daniel W. – Albany Holguin, Julio C. – Dominican Republic Howe, John – Central Florida Hughes, Gethin B. – San Diego Iker, Jack – Fort Worth Jacobus, Russell E. – Fond du Lac Jecko, Stephen H. – Florida Jenkins III, Charles E. – Louisiana Johnson, Don E. – West Tennessee Kelshaw, Terence – Rio Grande Klusmeyer, W. Michie – West Virginia Krotz, James E. – Nebraska Lai, David Jung-Hsin – Taiwan Lipscomb, John B. – Southwest Florida Little II, Edward S. – Northern Indiana Louttit, Jr., Henry – Georgia MacPherson, D. Bruce – Western Louisiana Morante, Alfredo – Ecuador Ohl, Jr., C. Wallis – Northwest Texas Parsley, Jr., Henry N. – Alabama Rowley, Jr., Robert D. – Northwestern Pennsylvania Salmon, Jr., Edward L. – South Carolina Schofield, John-David M. – San Joaquin Stanton, James M. – Dallas Thompson, Jr., Herbert – Southern Ohio vonRosenberg, Charles G. – East Tennessee Whitmore, Keith B. – Eau Claire Wimberly, Don A. – Texas

Not voting

Larrea, Neptali – Central Ecuador Scruton, Gordon Paul – Western Massachusetts


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 62to45vote; 62votes; confirmed; episcopal; fallout; generalconvention; homosexual; homosexualbishop; homosexuality; rollcall
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To: ChewedGum
My analysis: the only vote I care about now is the one people do with their feet.
21 posted on 08/06/2003 2:46:23 PM PDT by far sider
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To: Credo
Here is my analysis. I basically took East Coast States (touching the coast plus a few like PA), West Coast States (touching the water) and then Central (everything else). The others are either other countries or cities which I did not recognize.

CHOICE EAST CENTRAL WEST OTHER
YES 25 22 12 3
NO 14 19 1 9
In Favor 64% 53% 92% 25%

I expected the Central percentage to be under 50% so this is kind of surprising. However, nine of the 22 Central 'Yea' votes were from Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio. There are only 2 'Nay' votes from the same 5 states.

Dropping those 5 states would yield a 13 to 17 vote or 43% in favor which is what I expected. (Didn't realize those states were that much more liberal than the south-central part of the country.)

Gum

22 posted on 08/06/2003 2:46:27 PM PDT by ChewedGum ( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: lady lawyer
in a state with five seats in congress isn't one a democrat? I would be very nervous about all the folks from Calif who left to go skiing and never returned. In five more years conservatives may not be any more powerful in elections than they are in the election of the Bishop for Utah. Someone voted for her and I am well aware of her background.
23 posted on 08/06/2003 2:48:11 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: ChewedGum
By the way...my unknowns are as follows:

Yes:
Navajoland Area Mission (Arizona?)
Easton (No idea!)
Convocation of American Churches in Europe (NON US)

No:
Quincy (No idea!)
Eau Claire (No idea!)
San Joaquin (No idea!)
Virgin Islands (NON US)
Honduras (NON US)
Haiti (NON US)
Dominican Republic (NON US)
Taiwan (NON US)
Ecuador (NON US)

If you can help identify these questionable ones, I can update the chart.

Gum

24 posted on 08/06/2003 2:50:50 PM PDT by ChewedGum ( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: ChewedGum
Quincy could be Illinois

Eu Claire could be Wisconsin

San Joaquin is California

25 posted on 08/06/2003 2:57:04 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: churchillbuff
Curry, Michael – North Carolina

This guy is black, and a helluva preacher. I thought he'd be really good for the Episcopal church, but he voted "yes" like a good boy, down on the liberal plantation. How much you want to bet that the "yes" voters are all the pro-abortion ones too?
26 posted on 08/06/2003 3:04:07 PM PDT by johnb838 (What about sensitivity to MY culture?)
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To: churchillbuff
More better???
Yes
 
Adams III, Gladstone B. -- Central New York
Alexander, John Neil --Atlanta
Alvarez, David -- Puerto Rico
Bainbridge III, Harry B. --Idaho
Bennison, Jr., Charles E. --Pennsylvania
Bruno, Jon --Los Angeles
Caldwell, Bruce --Wyoming
Chane, John --Washington
Chang, Richard S.O. --Hawaii
Creighton, Michael W. --Central Pennsylvania
Croneberger, John P. --Newark
Curry, Michael --North Carolina
Daniel III, Clifton -- East Carolina
Ely, Thomas Clark --Vermont
Frade, Leopold -- Southeast Florida
Garrison, J. Michael --Western New York
Gepert, Robert R. --Western Michigan
Gibbs, Jr., Wendell N. --Michigan
Gregg, William O. --Eastern Oregon
Grew II, J. Clark --Ohio
Griswold, Frank --Convocation of American Churches in Europe
Gulick, Jr., Edwin F. --Kentucky
Howe, Barry R. --West Missouri
Ihloff, Robert W. --Maryland
Irish, Carolyn T. --Utah
Jefferts Schori, Katharine --Nevada
Jelinek, James L. --Minnesota
Johnson, Robert H. --Western North Carolina
Kelsey, James A. -- Northern Michigan
Knudsen, Chilton R. --Maine
Ladehoff, Robert L. --Oregon
Lamb, Jerry A. --Northern California
Lee, Peter J. -- Virginia
Leidel, Jr., Edwin M. -- Eastern Michigan
MacDonald, Mark L. --Alaska
Marshall, Paul V. --Bethlehem
Maze, Larry E. --Arkansas
McKelvey, Jack M. --Rochester
Moody, Robert M. --Oklahoma
Persell, William D. --Chicago
Plummer, Steven T. -- Navajoland Area Mission
Powell, F. Neff -- Southwestern Virginia
Robertson, Creighton L. -- South Dakota
Sauls, Stacy F. --Lexington
Scarfe, Alan --Iowa
Shahan, Robert R. --Arizona
Shand, James J. --Easton
Shaw III, SSJE, M. Thomas -- Massachusetts
Shimpfky, Richard L. --El Camino Real
Sisk, Mark S. --New York
Smalley, William E. --Kansas
Smith, Andrew D. -- Connecticut
Smith, George Wayne -- Missouri
Swing, William E. -- California
Theuner, Douglas E. --New Hampshire
Waggoner, James Edward -- Spokane
Walker, Jr., Orris G. --Long Island
Warner, Vincent W. --Olympia
Waynick, Catherine M. -- Indianapolis
Winterrowd, William J. -- Colorado
Wolf, Geralyn --Rhode Island
Wright, Wayne P. --Delaware
No
 
Ackerman, Keith L. --Quincy
Adams, Jr., James M. -- Western Kansas
Allen, Lloyd --Honduras
Bane, Jr., David C. -- Southern Virginia
Beckwith, Peter H. -- Springfield
Daniels, Theodore A. --Virgin Islands
Duncan II, Philip M. -- Central Gulf Coast
Duncan, Jr., Robert W. -- Pittsburgh
Duque-Gomez, Francisco -- Colombia
Duracin, Jean --Haiti
Fairfield, Andrew H. --North Dakota
Folts, James E. --West Texas
Gray III, Duncan Montgomery -- Mississippi
Henderson, Dorsey --Upper South Carolina
Herlong, Bertram N. -- Tennessee
Herzog, Daniel W. --Albany
Holguin, Julio C. --Dominican Republic
Howe, John --Central Florida
Hughes, Gethin B. --San Diego
Iker, Jack --Fort Worth
Jacobus, Russell E. --Fond du Lac
Jecko, Stephen H. --Florida
Jenkins III, Charles E. -- Louisiana
Johnson, Don E. --West Tennessee
Kelshaw, Terence --Rio Grande
Klusmeyer, W. Michie --West Virginia
Krotz, James E. --Nebraska
Lai, David Jung-Hsin --Taiwan
Lipscomb, John B. --Southwest Florida
Little II, Edward S. -- Northern Indiana
Louttit, Jr., Henry --Georgia
MacPherson, D. Bruce -- Western Louisiana
Morante, Alfredo --Ecuador
Ohl, Jr., C. Wallis -- Northwest Texas
Parsley, Jr., Henry N. -- Alabama
Rowley, Jr., Robert D. -- Northwestern Pennsylvania
Salmon, Jr., Edward L. -- South Carolina
Schofield, John-David M. -- San Joaquin
Stanton, James M. --Dallas
Thompson, Jr., Herbert -- Southern Ohio
vonRosenberg, Charles G. -- East Tennessee
Whitmore, Keith B. --Eau Claire
Wimberly, Don A. --Texas
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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27 posted on 08/06/2003 3:07:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: ChewedGum
Convocation of American Churches in Europe (NON US)

There are some dioceses that are outside of the US that are considered part of the Episcopal church, I don't know why. The important thing is that the representative of this area was the diabolical Frank Griswold, also the presiding bishop of the ECUSA, a flaming liberal, and probably the driver of all this shit.

Hey Kids! I know, lets play "Beat the Bishop"!!!!! (Is that hate speech?)
28 posted on 08/06/2003 3:07:44 PM PDT by johnb838 (What about sensitivity to MY culture?)
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To: johnb838
How much you want to bet that the "yes" voters are all the pro-abortion ones too?

That would not shock me. Error begets error.

29 posted on 08/06/2003 3:08:02 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: ChewedGum
How about a nice MAP with a red or blue dot on it: kinda like the voting thing last presidential election.......
30 posted on 08/06/2003 3:11:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: churchillbuff
I think you're right. How else would you explain UTAH's having a liberal, female bishop?
31 posted on 08/06/2003 3:11:25 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Eva
Another good point. Perhaps Episcopalians in conservative areas were more likely to have left the ECUSA before today, and Episcopal churches in those areas moved more quickly to the left than Episcopal churches in liberal areas.
32 posted on 08/06/2003 3:13:25 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ChewedGum
Easton--(Easton, Maryland) The Eastern Shore of Maryland. I thought it included part of Delaware & Virginia's eastern shore too.
(I'm in the diocese of Maryland)
33 posted on 08/06/2003 3:17:30 PM PDT by jaybee
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To: Elsie
How about a nice MAP with a red or blue dot on it: kinda like the voting thing last presidential election.......

Man alive...tough crowd to please!

Gum

34 posted on 08/06/2003 3:24:29 PM PDT by ChewedGum ( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: q_an_a
I thought the same thing.
35 posted on 08/06/2003 3:28:59 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: jaybee
Updated. I believe all the Other category is outside of the United States. Thanks for the help guys!

CHOICE EAST CENTRAL WEST OTHER
YES 26 22 12 2
NO 14 21 2 9
In Favor 65% 51% 86% 18%

The central is closer to 50% now which is more of what I expected. Interesting thoughts on this thread. (I enjoy statistics!)

Gum

36 posted on 08/06/2003 3:32:30 PM PDT by ChewedGum ( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: q_an_a
There is one democrat -- A Mormon, and son of a very popular former governor. He represents the part of Salt Lake that is the least Mormon/furthest left. Salt Lake City, itself, is the least conservative past of the state, except Park City, where the hoi polloi from out of state have bought their expensive ski chalets.

Bush got 70+ percent of the vote here. In 1992, Clinton came in third, after Bush I and Perot. It may change someday, but, for now, I think it will stay conservative. For every liberal skier that moves into the state, I suspect there are a couple of conservative Mormons fleeing the madness in California and coming back home to Utah.
37 posted on 08/06/2003 3:34:49 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: mtbopfuyn
El Camino Real is Central CA, South of San Francisco to about San Luis Obispo. San Juaquin is the Central Valley of CA (San Juaquin Valley). Is NM Rio Grande?
38 posted on 08/06/2003 3:42:33 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: ChewedGum
Where's Louisiana? I thought it might be Eau Claire but don't know either.
39 posted on 08/06/2003 3:44:12 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: ChewedGum
Quincy could be MA
San Joaquin is the San Joaquin Velley in CA
Eue Claire is Wisconsin
Frank Griswold is the Presiding Bishop of the ECUSA, wo I guess voted representing the Episcopal churches in Europe
40 posted on 08/06/2003 3:46:36 PM PDT by tinamina
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