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No, Sen. Santorum, Catholics aren’t a protected class
The Hill ^ | 8/6/03 | Josh Marshall

Posted on 08/06/2003 1:58:11 PM PDT by TastyManatees

No, Sen. Santorum, Catholics aren’t a protected class

Okay, I think I get the idea.

Republicans are very upset that Senate Democrats have held together enough to sideline three of President Bush’s most hard-line conservative judicial nominees.

That unity anticipates similar steadfastness in the face of hard-line nominations to the Supreme Court if and when Bush gets the chance. And all that complaining about Democratic filibustering — whether justified or not — never caught on with voters.

But that’s still no excuse for the ridiculous charges that Democrats are acting out of anti-Catholic bias or bigotry when opposing Alabama Attorney General William Pryor’s nomination to the federal appeals bench, in part because of his views on abortion.

Last week Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) claimed, “What we are seeing, de facto, from members of the other side is a religious test.”

Some even claim that the Democrats’ opposition to Pryor for his hard-line position on abortion and other hot-button issues amounts to a violation of the ban on religious tests found in Article VI of the Constitution. As one fulminating right-wing commentator put it, “As with the Cavaliers who made Catholics publicly renounce the doctrine of transubstantiation, so now Senate Democrats insist that nominees renounce church teaching on abortion.”

Frankly, some charges are so cynical, reckless and baseless that they shouldn’t require refuting. But as long as Santorum & Co. are insisting, let’s go over a couple of reasons these charges make no sense — the first logical, the second functional.

First, is opposing a judicial nominee for having doctrinaire views on abortion the same as demanding that he or she renounce the doctrine of transubstantiation? Of course not. And the difference goes to the heart of the matter. Transubstantiation is a matter of doctrine and faith. It hasn’t a whit to do with public policy or the public realm. It only has relevance to Catholics as Catholics.

Abortion is different. It’s a hotly contested political issue. And when we talk about abortion as a political issue, we necessarily mean more than what we would do personally or what rules should apply to members of our religion. We mean what rules should apply to everyone in society.

Religious believers argue that faith isn’t simply a private matter. It underlies the values and beliefs we bring to the public square. And they’re 100 percent right. But the shield that guards our private religious beliefs from any and every political scrutiny doesn’t follow those beliefs out into the public arena. Once our religiously rooted beliefs cross the membrane from the private to the public, they become no different from any other political beliefs. People are free to disagree with us and oppose us on that basis. That’s not bigotry. That’s democracy.

That’s the logical reason. Now the functional one.

Abortion, like affirmative action, is one of the most emotionally charged issues in American politics. Voters routinely choose to vote for or against candidates based on these issues. And senators of both parties have used judicial nominees’ positions on those issues to determine whether or not to vote for their confirmation, just as they do on the death penalty, gay rights and other issues.

Some argue that the president should be able to nominate judges who share his or her judicial philosophy without that much Senate meddling. But no one thinks that anything is untoward or bigoted about raising those issues or voting down judicial nominees on that basis. Senators from both parties have done it countless times.

But Santorum says it is a problem if the judicial nominee roots his or her opposition to abortion in their Catholicism.

Look where that gets us …

If you’re a secular humanist and opposed to abortion (Nat Hentoff, say), senators can vote against you because of your pro-life views. Or if you’re a Christian from a denomination that doesn’t take a clear stand against abortion (Episcopalians, say), they can do the same. But if you’re a Catholic who has down-the-line pro-life views, no senator can take a position on your nomination for any reason having to do with your stand on abortion.

That makes Catholics with ardent pro-life views a protected class. All a pro-life president would need to do would be to nominate only Catholics to the bench to stack the court with pro-life jurists. An anti-death-penalty president could do the same with religiously based opponents of capital punishment.

That stands everything we believe about the separation between church and state on its head.

None of this reasoning should even be necessary. We all know that this is about abortion, not Catholicism. In fact, it’s not even about abortion. It’s about down-the-line conservative nominees and whether Democrats can put some break on the president’s ability to put such ideologues on the court. Republican carping about filibustering didn’t get anywhere. So now they’re raising the temperature by wrapping the debate in mantle of religious bias and anti-Catholic bigotry. It’s as cynical as can be. But the partisan payoff is apparently too tempting to be offset by any sense of shame.

Surprise, surprise.


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Marshall should be ashamed himself for this hack work. I just placed a response to Marshall's two arguments on TastyManatees.com. The link below will take you there.

Tasty Manatees
1 posted on 08/06/2003 1:58:11 PM PDT by TastyManatees
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To: TastyManatees
I'm sure we heard this sort of "logic" before when they were defending the choice of slavery.
2 posted on 08/06/2003 2:03:05 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: TastyManatees
Marshal misses the point that most of the Democrats opposing Catholic appointees are "former" Catholics. They are protesting the fact that anyone would question their right to be aggressive opponents of "their" church and their right to defy their religion and the Pope.
Who are they? Kennedy, Leahy, Biden, Daschle, Kerry etc.
3 posted on 08/06/2003 2:07:09 PM PDT by paguch
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To: TastyManatees
The anger by the dims over this must mean they felt the sting. Not their usual laugh-at-the-pubs response.
4 posted on 08/06/2003 2:07:40 PM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: TastyManatees
I don't know if Dims are specifically anti-Catholic. I think they pretty much have it in for anyone who loves Jesus. Anyone except abortionists and homosexuals distorting His Word.
5 posted on 08/06/2003 2:08:08 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: TastyManatees
Don't try to filibuster this dopey "gambling in the casino" article or Josh will go into hiding with the Texas Democrats.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 2:09:12 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: TastyManatees
He should of said Anti-Christ, then all would agree!

Ops4 God Bless America!
7 posted on 08/06/2003 2:09:20 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
I'm sure we heard this sort of "logic" before when they were defending the choice of slavery. - yes here we go!
The great principle is the right of everyone to judge and decide for himself, whether a thing is right or wrong, whether it would be good or evil for them to adopt it; and the right of free action, the right of free thought, the right of free judgement upon the question is dearer to every true American than any other under a free government. ... It is no answer to this argument to say that [it] is an evil and hence should not be tolerated. You must allow the people to decide for themselves.
This quote is from Stephen Douglas, and he said it in 1858. He was running for re-election to the Senate, and he was debating Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln said that slavery was evil and should be abolished.

(Taken from http://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/douglas.htm)

8 posted on 08/06/2003 2:10:29 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: TastyManatees
three of President Bush’s most hard-line conservative judicial nominees

Translation: People who respect the U.S. Constitution.

9 posted on 08/06/2003 2:10:31 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: TastyManatees
Some argue that the president should be able to nominate judges who share his or her judicial philosophy without that much Senate meddling. But no one thinks that anything is untoward or bigoted about raising those issues or voting down judicial nominees on that basis.



The key here, Mr. Marshall, is "voting down" - not thwarting the majority by preventing a vote. That's called obstruction.
10 posted on 08/06/2003 2:11:30 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: OPS4
Jesus would never agree with Abortion, Gay activism,
or any of the crap that the dems are rolling out.

The dems are against any issue where a conservative
Christian view is at the front.

Ops4 God BLess America!
11 posted on 08/06/2003 2:11:51 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: TastyManatees
Murder is murder, whether it's the killing of adults, or the killing of innocent, unborn babies.

Any society which harbors women who would kill their own children is destined to self-destruction.
12 posted on 08/06/2003 2:12:39 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: My2Cents
Exactly. When did a judicial nominee's personal views on any issue become more important than his interpretation of the Constitution?
13 posted on 08/06/2003 2:14:02 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: arkfreepdom
Where would Democrats be without filibusters and other parliamentary means of gumming up the works?
14 posted on 08/06/2003 2:15:37 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: TastyManatees
"But that’s still no excuse for the ridiculous charges that Democrats are acting out of anti-Catholic bias or bigotry "

It is anti-Catholic bigotry or bias if someone adhering to Catholic beliefs is prevented from appointment to the Supreme Court, serving in the Armed Forces, in Congress, as President, or in any capacity for the United States.

15 posted on 08/06/2003 2:16:59 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: ex-snook
I would agree, ex-snook, but only in the case where the nominee is rejected solely on the basis of these beliefs, and has not been shown to be impartial, as in the case of William Pryor.

Tasty Manatees
16 posted on 08/06/2003 2:20:02 PM PDT by TastyManatees (http://www.tastymanatees.com)
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To: Tabi Katz
When did a judicial nominee's personal views on any issue become more important than his interpretation of the Constitution?

This is the crux of the problem--and the difference between Dems and Pubs. It's an issue of projection... while strict construction nominees (primarily Pub nominees) seek to uphold the laws despite their personal views, "living" constitutionalists assume everyone bends the law to their will as they themselves do.

17 posted on 08/06/2003 2:24:29 PM PDT by pgyanke (God Save America!)
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To: TastyManatees
You forgot to copy the best part of the article...

Josh Marshall is editor of talkingpointsmemo.com. His column appears in The Hill each Wednesday. Email: jmarshall@thehill.com

This Catholic is going to let Mr. Marshall know what I think of his article.
18 posted on 08/06/2003 2:28:31 PM PDT by Republican Red
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To: TastyManatees
"where the nominee is rejected solely on the basis of these beliefs, "

Well 'solely' is an out if Catholic beliefs are an element. Only belief in the Constitution should be on the table.

19 posted on 08/06/2003 2:30:34 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED Trade. We buy from you. You buy from us.)
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To: Republican Red
Sorry about that, Republican Red.

Tasty Manatees- Marshall Response
20 posted on 08/06/2003 2:31:51 PM PDT by TastyManatees (http://www.tastymanatees.com)
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