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Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
NewsMax.com ^ | August 6, 2003 | Charles Smith

Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina

Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003

NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.

The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.

Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.

The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.

U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.

Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.

Click here to see troops towing the jet away.

All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF

The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.

The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.

The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.

X MARKS THE SPOT

The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.

U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.

Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.

While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.

Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allyourmigs; arebelongtous; britanniaisatroll; foxbat; iraq; iraqiairforce; mig; migs; pictures; rebuildingiraq; trollalert; trollbane; trollinthread; wmd
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To: Tony in Hawaii
Which instead was shot down by Congress.

http://www.labiker.org/xb70.html

For a nice site on the XB70 Valkyrie
81 posted on 08/06/2003 1:08:24 PM PDT by KiaKaha
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To: ASA Vet
There are several labs around the country working at it now. I am unfamiliar with any solutions thay might have come up with.
82 posted on 08/06/2003 1:09:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Sparta
Their stuff has always been hyped by the press, and given as the reason we'll lose.

Our stuff has always been denigrated by the press, and given as the reason we'll lose.

83 posted on 08/06/2003 1:09:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
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To: ASA Vet
The author used "Russian" and "sophisticated" in the same sentence?

Click here for the latest in Russian Technology. They (Sovtek) make the most sophistocated vacuum tubes in the world.

Seriously, for guitar amplifiers, 1950's technology just can't be beat. I'v even heard of sophisticated guitar effects units in which a state-of-the-art DSP chip resides next to a 12AX7.

84 posted on 08/06/2003 1:09:46 PM PDT by smokinleroy
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To: ASA Vet
P.S. Smaller teclnology doesn't help. In fact it exacerbates the problem as less voltage and current is needed to cause the circuit in the chip to fail.
85 posted on 08/06/2003 1:10:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
You mean there's more than one of them?
86 posted on 08/06/2003 1:10:36 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
That would be Clint Eastwood... :^)
87 posted on 08/06/2003 1:11:15 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: js1138
Whoops, sorry for that ding...looks like you were tagged by those quicker than I. I should read further before posting.
88 posted on 08/06/2003 1:13:01 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: HighRoadToChina
Buy it! Refurbish it! Take the ride of your life!

Or FLY TO THE EDGE OF SPACE!

with Space Adventures!

89 posted on 08/06/2003 1:13:09 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Tony in Hawaii
The MiG-25 was originally designed in response to the North American XB-70.

The MiG-25 Foxbat was indeed designed as a high-speed / high-altitude interceptor. It sacrificed maneuverability for straightline speed & fuel capacity. As a fighter it would have been a dismal failure. The only remaining use for the plane was as a recon plane.

90 posted on 08/06/2003 1:13:16 PM PDT by Tallguy (Trying desperately to ignore Hillary.... and not succeeding.)
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To: smokinleroy
I don't disagree with the virtue of tubes in amplifiers.
I've got lots of new tubes in boxes awaiting the big offer from some collector,
(or is that cathode?)
91 posted on 08/06/2003 1:14:08 PM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
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To: js1138
Stolen by CLINT EASTWOOD
92 posted on 08/06/2003 1:14:17 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: smokinleroy
12AX7. Now there's a name I haven't heard for a long, long time.
93 posted on 08/06/2003 1:14:25 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Renegade
I quit. I really do. What this site needs is the ability to edit, or at least add to your posts.
94 posted on 08/06/2003 1:15:34 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Sparta
AT-14 Kornet E, responsible for the destruction of at least one maybe two Abrams tanks in Operation Iraqi Freedom

1) There were NO M-1 Abrams actually destroyed by the Iraqis; there were a couple that were disabled (unable to move), and given the tactical situation, were unable to be towed away, and so we destroyed them ourselves.

Upon further review (I believe this was on strategypage.com several weeks ago), amazingly, there's NO evidence that the Iraqis EVER fired ANY antitank missles at any time, other than RPGs; the two disabled M-1s were from lucky RPG shots to the rear, and the Kornet reports were in error.

95 posted on 08/06/2003 1:17:04 PM PDT by John H K
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To: js1138
Has anyone mentioned yet that it was Clint Eastwood? LOL!
96 posted on 08/06/2003 1:19:29 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
Only 96 others.
97 posted on 08/06/2003 1:20:24 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I was told to design a "zero volt" power supply to be used as a "reference" voltage.
I put together some meters, lights, switches, and tubes in a box.
The output terminals were just strapped together on the inside.

Worked perfectly.

98 posted on 08/06/2003 1:20:53 PM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
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To: HighRoadToChina
I hope you appreciate the fact that this thread will probably top 1000 posts, thanks to me.
99 posted on 08/06/2003 1:21:55 PM PDT by js1138
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To: CCCV
I remember something about that, I thought it was Israel. What struck me, though, was that they said the speed was M3+ and that they could tell the engines were trashing themselves in the process.

Must a been one heck of a ride.

LVM

100 posted on 08/06/2003 1:22:03 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (two thirds majority means only the state SC will overturn the voters and make it a simple majority.)
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