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Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
NewsMax.com ^ | August 6, 2003 | Charles Smith

Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina

Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003

NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.

The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.

Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.

The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.

U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.

Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.

Click here to see troops towing the jet away.

All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF

The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.

The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.

The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.

X MARKS THE SPOT

The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.

U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.

Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.

While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.

Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allyourmigs; arebelongtous; britanniaisatroll; foxbat; iraq; iraqiairforce; mig; migs; pictures; rebuildingiraq; trollalert; trollbane; trollinthread; wmd
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To: ASA Vet
BWAHAHAHA! How much did you get paid for this "zero voltage power supply"? Did you get a patent or was it a goobermint job?
121 posted on 08/06/2003 1:32:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Long Cut
Soviet Lt. Viktor Belenko gave us one he stole whilst defecting
Wasn't he the guy that landed in Japan? If so we had a guy in our shop at Eglin that was on the flightline when he landed there. Heck of a story to hear him tell it.
Everyone was busy working when, here it came flying in. Someone finally said "Hey that's a MIG!". Just dropped in and landed! Security Police everywhere!
122 posted on 08/06/2003 1:33:39 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: KiaKaha
I seem to remember seeing pictures of a Russian knock-off of the Valkyrie, too. I think that plane really scared the bejeebies out of them. Perhaps that figured that, like the SR-71, it would be able to overfly their airspace without fear of interception.
123 posted on 08/06/2003 1:34:03 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: af_vet_rr
I forgot about the XB-70 Valkyrie. That was a beautiful plane. Wonder why they never went thru with it?


124 posted on 08/06/2003 1:34:36 PM PDT by bedolido (None of us is as dumb as all of us!)
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To: HighRoadToChina
Wonder what Putin has to say.
125 posted on 08/06/2003 1:35:10 PM PDT by Justin714
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I got my regular monthly military pay, and over 35 years of chuckles.
126 posted on 08/06/2003 1:35:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
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To: LasVegasMac
IIRC, it (MiG-25R) launched in Syria and recovered in Egypt (or vice versa). It made a straight-line Mach 2.8 dash across Israel on a probable ELINT mission. The engines needed to be replaced before it could fly again. I think it was a case of meltski downski.

127 posted on 08/06/2003 1:36:32 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Long Cut; Poohbah
It's a shame we are retiring that bird.

If the Navy's smart, they get in on the ground floor of the FB-22 program.
128 posted on 08/06/2003 1:36:46 PM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: RightWingConspirator
Just found this thread w/pics.
129 posted on 08/06/2003 1:37:24 PM PDT by Gracey (what's a tag line?)
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To: hchutch
I've looked at the FB-22 footprint.

Good luck getting it safely onto the flight deck of a carrier--the trailing edge of the wings will hit before the main mounts unless it comes in at a very low AOA.
130 posted on 08/06/2003 1:38:12 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: HighRoadToChina
Way Cool
take the air compressor to her and fly to Oskosh end of the month..
131 posted on 08/06/2003 1:39:25 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: shadowman99
We'll repay them by removing Chiraq. we all have a dream ;)

Bush has no problem telling a corrupt leader it's time to go. The French and their economy just might survive then.
132 posted on 08/06/2003 1:39:53 PM PDT by swheats
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To: PLMerite
recovered in Egypt
Sounds like your in the know on this one. Thanks for the info, I thought it broke up in flight.
133 posted on 08/06/2003 1:41:39 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: Sparta
The author used "Russian" and "sophisticated" in the same sentence? You'd be amazed at the latest Russian weapons.

Yeah, but the Foxbat first flew nearly 40 friggin' years ago. This would also be an export version, lacking the Soviet's best avionics. Regardless, we had a Russian pilot land one in Japan for us back in 1976. It'll look neat in a museum, but it's not exactly an intelligence coup.

134 posted on 08/06/2003 1:42:07 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
"Imagine a soldier wandering around the desert with a metal detector finding a huge ping! "

When huge pings are occuring regularly in Iraq, democracy will have set in. < /Freeper Pun off >

135 posted on 08/06/2003 1:44:21 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: HighRoadToChina
This is hardly an intel "coup." We've known a lot about the MiG-25 since the mid-1970s, when a Soviet defector named Viktor Belenko was kind enough to fly one to Japan. After disassembling the MiG, we discovered that it was very heavy, fast, and relatively unmaneuverable, thanks to the extensive use of steel in the airframe. It's radar and missiles were less capable than U.S. fighters of the era (F-4), and certainly well behind the capabilities of the F-15 and F-16.

Like many older MiGs, the Foxbat was fairly easy to maintain, so the Iraqis managed to keep them flying while having to retire more advanced fighters, most notably the MiG-29/FULCRUM. The MiG-25 was also the only fighter to achieve an air-to-air kill against us; an Iraqi Foxbat pilot shot down Scott Speicher on the opening night of the 1991 Gulf War, and I'm still not sure how me managed that. The Iraqis also gained some attention by using the Foxbat as a high altitude bomber during the war with Iran. After losing more than a few SU-22/FITTERs and older Mirages to Iranian I-HAWK SAMs, the Iraqis began bombing Kharg Island from 60,000 feet, using the MiG-25. At 60,000 Feet, they were above the HAWK engagement zone; somehow, they managed to hit the Iranian oil terminal more than a few times, without any sort of computer bombing system on the Foxbat...

136 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:17 PM PDT by Spook86
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To: swheats
The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad. sweeeeet justice.

Meaning no offense, but a clueless writer at Newsmax is hoping to play on a clueless readership. That plane is ancient. We got one from a Russian defector back in 1976, they've been flying since the mid 60's.

137 posted on 08/06/2003 1:46:54 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Veracious Poet
From the pictures and the age of the planes (20+ years old), I doubt these birds are any threat at all...More propaganda from Iraq...

Easy to say when your ass is sitting in air conditioned comfort without the pointy part of that aircraft aimed at you.

138 posted on 08/06/2003 1:46:59 PM PDT by pfflier
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