Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina
Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003
NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.
The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.
Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.
The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.
U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.
Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.
Click here to see troops towing the jet away.
All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF
The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.
The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.
The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.
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The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.
U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.
Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.
While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.
Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.
See, I was thinking empty head, but it didn't fit the MiG. Oh wait, How about they both have their
In the interest of accuracy, the movie starred Clint Eastwood.
Ironically, there really is a MiG-31, as the FIREFOX in the movie was called. The MiG-31's name is FOXHOUND, and it is a follow-on to the MiG-25.
The -25 could, in fact, do Mach-3, but only in a staight line and in a short burst, which killed the engines.
Oh, and we've known ALLLLLL about them since 1975, when Soviet Lt. Viktor Belenko gave us one he stole whilst defecting. It was his story, in fact, that Firefox, the movie, was based on.
As for the F-14 and -15, they both were tested to Mach 2.5. The TOMCAT, in fact, was still accelerating whenthe test was curtailed, the goal having been met.
Hey! So we finally have something to thank France for!!!! LMAO!!!
That was Clint Eastwood's gig.
LVM
It can, once ..... the engines and airframe are made from steel, not titanium alloys, so it burns out the engines after going that fast.
I didn't forget, just never paid attention to the actor. I saw Firefox one time on TV, probably 15 years ago, got the face mixed up with the Flynt character.
Oh yes, it could do Mach 3, however even though that was played up a lot, in reality, they preferred not to do it because it burned way too much fuel (big enough engines can make any fighter go that fast). I believe it was declassified (I'm sure it was), but we've had access to a few over the years before the end of the cold war, and the technology was not that impressive. Let's just say lots of steel plating (adding weight), and lots of vacuum tubes, which a single round going through the the electronics bay would wipe most of the avionics.
The Mig-25 was really supposed to be a counter to the XB-70 Valkyrie, which never went into production. It was not that impressive outside of its speed, and at top speed it had some control problems, so they limited it to just under mach3 . The missiles it carried at first did not have that long of a range, negating their speed advantage to an extent since they had to get close to fire and at short range our guys would have a better chance of taking them out. The radar was impressive - you could really have some interesting results if you cranked it up on the ground - very powerful.
I dug this page up from a usenet posting, about the one that a defecting pilot landed in Japan in the mid 70s - "My God! Look what this thing is made of! Why, the dumb bastards don't have transistors; they're still using vacuum tubes! These engines are monsters! Maybe the Sovs have a separate refinery for each plane! Jesus! See these rivet heads sticking out, and look at that welding! They did it by hand! Hell, the pilot can't see a thing unless it's practically in front of him! This contraption isn't an airplane; it's a rocket!
The page is here but it's geocities, so don't expect much.
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