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Why can't the Democrats seem to get it together? (GREAT blog post, must read!)
Asymmetrical Information ^ | August 3, 2003 | Jane Galt

Posted on 08/05/2003 11:03:20 AM PDT by Timesink

Why can't the Democrats seem to get it together?

A couple of weeks back, Randy Barnett wrote something to the effect that liberals live in a "culture of lies" while guest-blogging for Glenn Reynolds. Such statements set my teeth on edge. Whenever I hear anyone of a particular persuasion begin bloviating about how the reason that people of other political persuasions believe what they believe is that they are, as a group, much more [stupid/ greedy/ mean/ venal/ dishonest/ selfish/ hateful/ bigoted/ power-mad/ narrow-minded/ cruel/ careless/ hypocritical/ violent] than the blessed elite who share the views held by the speaker, I tune out.

But this sort of rampant silliness is certainly not, as I saw a number of commenters claim, confined to those evil bastards on the conservative side of the aisle, and it's just as grating when liberals do it. A couple of weeks ago I attended a luncheon given by The Week, where, packed more tightly than I have been since my high school friends and I decided to transport eleven people to Vermont in a Saab, I listened to Gary Hart, Michelle Crowley, Sid Blumenthal, and Ed Rollins (the Republican pollster) hold forth on whether or not the Democrats had a snowball's chance of beating Bush in 2004. The feeling was, generally, yes, Bush was beatable, but only if the Democrats offer some real alternatives that make Americans feel more secure both economically and national-security-wise. But as you can imagine, there was also a lot of gnashing of teeth from the Democrats, achingly familiar to anyone who remembers what the Republicans sounded like around about 1998, about their failure to make inroads into the President's popularity. One heard a fifth-grader's plaintive incomprehension in their questioning: why don't people like us?

When the Q&A came around, unsurprisingly, the majority of the questioner's turned out to be Democrats. And every single one of their questions started off something like this:

"I think that one of the major problems we face, as Democrats, is that our policies are all about nuance and deep intellectual focus on maximizing the welfare of the public at large, while Republicans are a pack of venal liars who want to kill poor people and minorities. The American public seems to be far too stupid to understand the subtle genius of our ideas. How do we, as Democrats, overcome that?"

The answer, from the Democrats on the dais, generally went something like this.

"While the rest of the American public may not actually be drooling lackwits who should herded into camps for their own protection, they are clearly struck insensible by the blinding power of our intellects. As their voting record demonstrates, they are constitutionally incapable of comprehending the overwhelming superiority of the Democratic platform on the merits. We will have to make sure that this election cycle we speak very slowly, and clearly, and make our visuals on very large sheets of construction paper with pictures of puppies. We may also consider lying, since after all, the shameless mendacity of the Republicans is the only reason anyone ever votes for them."

Now, is all this embarassing self-congratulation because Democrats are inherently arrogant bastards, crude elitists out of touch with the simple, homespun virtues of the common man? Or because losers need to lie to themselves in order to salve their egos? I've heard both explanations from Republicans who need to get out more.

What is true is that Democrats, right now, have more ability to insulate themselves from being confronted with the views of the other side. Geographically, they can isolate themselves into coastal cities, which is why I never met any Republicans except my grandparents until I went to business school. And informationally, provided that they don't watch Fox news, don't subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, and keep the radio tuned to NPR, they can keep from ever hearing if the other side has a good argument.

They are thus prone to base their knowlege of the other side's ideas mostly on the work of ideologically simpatico opinion column writers, who are generally trying to make a snappy point for a column, not present their with a painstakingly unbiased account of all the salient facts. I know this will break your hearts, my little chickadees, but it is tragically true. Those columnists are just trying to sound clever in 1000 words. No matter which side of the aisle they hail from. That's not to say that they are wrong, or that they disbelieve what they write. But they are not going to present you with any contrary evidence that would take them more than two sentences to refute.


This is why the Democrats at that luncheon were so shocked and hurt. Not because they are stupid, or venal, or arrogant. But because they live in a bubble, and thus are genuinely not aware that the other side may occasionally have the better of the argument. The New Republic is about as far right as your average New Yorker generally goes, publication-wise -- and I am acquainted with a number of people who have dropped it because it's too right-wing these days. If the only explanation of conservatives beliefs you ever hear comes from the editorial pages of the New York Times, it is indeed incomprehensible that people out there could actually embrace such twaddle. I'd be looking under the couch for the Vast Right Wing conspiracy too.

An example: the 2000 presidential race. The entire City of New York seems to have collectively forgotten that the newspaper recount occurred. I mean, I spent quite a lot of time hearing about how when that recount came out, it was going to expose the Supreme Court as a partisan sham, and George Bush as the undeserving usurper who stole the election. Then the People would rise up as one body and throw the Republicans out, never to return.

Then the newspapers published their results. And everyone who had been anticipatng the outcome with only slightly less enthusiasm than a Trek convention waiting for William Shatner to come onstage -- all those people didn't just stop talking about it, but seemingly wiped the results from their mind. It is even now common at gatherings of New Yorkers to hear bitter recriminations about the Supreme Court stealing the election for Bush, even though the recount seems to have shown, as conclusively as anything can, that Bush would have won even if the Supreme Court had mandated the exact recount Gore's team wanted. It isn't disingenuous; they do not know this fact. And how do they not know it? Because there are five million or so other people around who constantly tell each other that the Supreme Court stole the election for Bush. And like anything that one hears over and over from sympathetic sources, it becomes true to them, just as most of us love our siblings even though we've never really stopped to consider the matter. Everyone says that people love their siblings; therefore it is so.

(Note: Nora, I really do love you.)

Not, mind you, that I think Republicans are more aware of Democratic arguments because they are naturally more intellectually curious. They are more exposed to alternative viewpoints only because they haven't got a choice. Most of their newspapers, weekly magazines, network news, etc. run liberal (even the ones with conservative editorial pages, as you'll find if you ever talk to Wall Street Journal reporters).

As a libertarian, I'm actually worried by the rise of Fox. It's nice to have an alternative viewpoint out there, no matter how pugnacious. But Fox represents an opportunity for conservatives to wall themselves off in their own intellectual ghetto so they won't ever have to ask themselves uncomfortable questions, or go through the coolie labor of reworking one of their political ideas.

Such insularity is awfully dangerous.

Any ideology must generally confront uncomfortable facts. I would like for tax cuts to raise tax revenue, but it is not so. Republicans who get their opinions on taxation only from conservative sources, however, tend to repeat this as if it were a known fact, rather than an unlikely assertion. My Democratic friends would like, for example, price controls not to decrease the supply of the items for which we are controlling the price, but they generally do, and there you are; we have to deal with the fact, not pretend it away. I oppose any movement that caters to the natural tendency of people to separate themselves from opinions with which they disagree in order to preserve their peace of mind.

(Although I should note that the phenomena of liberal types bewailing the fact that Fox will enable conservatives to get only conservative news does not impress me. It never occurs to them to suggest that perhaps their political compadres should add Commentary to their subscription stable; no, somehow it is only dangerous for conservatives to congregate with the like-minded.)

Which brings us, finally, to the reason I started this shaggy-dog polemic: Howard Dean. I find it hard to believe that he's going to be the Democratic nominee, but a number of Democratic political types whose opinions I respect seem to think there's a good probability he will be. He will be the nominee, they say, because base Democrats believe that the purity of their anger will ignite the population to throw out that evil pretender in the White House. They do not seem to realize that their anger is not merely not shared, but actively reviled, by the rest of the voting population. And they do not realize it because they do not know anyone who doesn't think like they do.

If they throw a tantrum and nominate Dean, they will need to hit a trifecta -- another recession, a disaster in Iraq, and a scandal in the White House -- in order to win. Better to lose honorably, say my Democratic pals, and I admire their spirit. Perhaps they can do what the Republicans did after Goldwater, and use the opportunity to build a base and some new policies and come back with a big win.

But not until they get in touch with the rest of the population. Find out what they're thinking, explain why they should think something else -- you can't do either if you're sitting around congratulating yourself on how gosh darn superior you are. And if the Republicans do sweep in 2004, I hope the lesson that they'll take from it is not that they're God's chosen people, but that it's dangerous to keep the dial tuned to Fox all day.

Posted by Jane Galt at August 3, 2003 02:53 PM


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; democrats; dems; electionpresident; elelection2004; howarddean; insularity; janegalt; rats
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To: Onelifetogive
Tax rate increases will increse revenue if the rate is above the inflection point, it will lower revenue if the rate is below the inflection point. (Speculation - rates are higher for high income people - thus rate cuts increase revenue. Rates are lower for low income people - thus rate cuts decrease revenue. Tax cuts should ONLY be for the rich!!!)

Great post!

21 posted on 08/05/2003 11:38:45 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Timesink
They see their beliefs as part of some mystique. They are what Thomas Sowell once termed "The annointed. A self-selecting elite."

Bush will leave them to The Ben and Jerry's Country Club to eat their Cherry Garcia ice cream after he has dismantled them in election 2004. He has a country to govern.
22 posted on 08/05/2003 11:41:12 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Along these lines, I would like to see a Washington DC of constantly new faces, preferably non idealogues. Intelligent, Philosophical patriots who are self made capitalists that come to washington to make an honest contribution to the american people. Men who are fearless and honest, and who expose ALL of those that aren't as unfit to serve. I would like to see a recall process possible (strict conditions) for all of congress. Let the chips fall where they may.
Anything is better than watching pseudo intellectual fascists destroy the country over decades while the congressional opposition serves as an accessory in this crime agaist our god given and constitutional rights.

I dream about a new constitutional convention type meeting where men of good will and honor gather together in order to plan a revolution from the right- a return to our roots.
23 posted on 08/05/2003 11:42:27 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (call me paranoid)
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To: cinFLA
I am not sure your curve as described has an inflection point.

Inflection point - A point on a curve at which the sign of the curvature (i.e., the concavity) changes. Inflection points are stationary points, but not relative maxima or relative minima.

You are correct...

Should have said "relative maximum." Or in this case just "maximum."

24 posted on 08/05/2003 11:45:28 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Timesink
This *was* a thoughtful and interesting post. But in going for the deep, meaningful and comprehensive summary statement-- trying to leap over tall inconsistencies in a single bound, you might say-- the writer unconsciously trips a lot of readers' hair-trigger responses. Which is kind of a shame. Sort of like using a very fine-tipped pen to write a carefully reasoned essay on the outer skin of a banana, then dropping that banana into the monkey cage at the zoo. The leading thesis of the essay, the original, inescapable, unarguable point (this is a democracy, we are all sentient human beings capable of resolving complex issues by negotiation, as well as confrontation) kind of gets lost in the mad grab for the bright, yellow "prize". That prize being the proper maintenance of dogmatic, ideological purity.

25 posted on 08/05/2003 11:46:21 AM PDT by MoJoWork_n (We don't know what it is we don't know.)
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To: Gorjus
Yes indeed... While reading the article there were several places where I had to restrain myself from blurting out loud the famous Galileo quote "but still it moves"... Because even though I am a sometime fan of Rashomon, the concept of objective truth still exists...
26 posted on 08/05/2003 11:49:40 AM PDT by The Electrician
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To: Timesink
This reminds me of the story told by damn-I-forget-his-name-but-he-wrote-Bias of the NYT Reporter wondering,

"How did Nixon beat McGovern? I don't know anybody who voted for him."

They live in their own little circle, regurgitating their own ideas, so it wasn't incredible to old-what's-his-name that, even though Nixon carried 49 States, the NYT lady wouldn't know a single person who voted for him.

27 posted on 08/05/2003 11:50:51 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Timesink
The asymmetry in the treatment of conservative and liberal views is a reason why liberals are more likely to be unacquainted with serious conservative ideas. This asymmetry isn't just in the media, though-- and it is there. It is in the schools and universities, as well.

There's another reason for liberals to be less likely to comprehend their opponents. When it comes to government subsidies, whether in the form of jobs or lifestyle support or what have you, there is always an asymmetry of perceived harms. Those benefiting from direct subsidies can identify themselves and can clearly identify the benefit from the subsidy; those harmed through lower growth and higher unemployment, however, may be entirely unaware of the impact of these subsidies on themselves. Which unemployed person can say for certain whether he would have a job in an economy with lower taxes, for example?

So, it usally requires more intellectual distance to appreciate the harms of a tax-subsidized economy, and hence it's more likely someone who does appreciate these harms will already be acquainted with the harms pointed to by liberals. To appreciate the harms of having your government check reduced, however, doesn't require much acquaintance with the alternative point of view.

28 posted on 08/05/2003 11:56:39 AM PDT by Timm
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To: Onelifetogive
Tax rate increases will increse revenue if the rate is above the inflection point, it will lower revenue if the rate is below the inflection point.

Right you are, although your terminology is off. The inflection point is a stationary point other than a maximum or minimum, where the curvature changes from concave to convex for any given function; or put another way, where the sign of the second derivative of the function changes from positive to zero to negative (or vice versa.)


The term you are looking for is 'maximum'. 'Inflection point' is often used, perhaps because it sounds more intellectual, but is incorrect.

-ccm

29 posted on 08/05/2003 11:57:58 AM PDT by ccmay
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To: Timesink
Ms. Galt is so wrong in her comment about tax cuts...

Cutting marginal tax rates DOES - to an extent - cause tax revenue to increase. Look at the 1980s when Reagan and Regan forced the Dims to pass tax rate reduction.

Look again at the 1990s when a Repblican Congress forced Clinton to sign tax cuts.

Problem with the Laffer Curve is that it's a dynamic relationship with a very large number of variables.
30 posted on 08/05/2003 12:00:46 PM PDT by Yudan (Leave it to a Dimwitcrap to bring a knife to a gunfight.)
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To: TontoKowalski
It was Bernard Goldberg who wrote "Bias" and made many of the same points.

Interesting blog. Absolutely true, from my experience. I'm an attorney who now lives in Nevada, but have been to many trendy cocktail parties in New York or L.A. over the years. If you've ever been to one, you know what the writer is talking about. I can't remember how many times I have listened to conversations there where it is just a GIVEN that the Supreme Court stole the election for Bush, the Iraq war was all about oil, yada yada yada. It is simply accepted as the absolute empirical truth.

Merely being identified as a Republican in many of these settings usually results in one of two responses: One, you are not REALLY a Republican but are saying so just to play devil's advocate for entertainment purpose (How can any educated, informed person ACTUALLY be so narrow-minded) or Two,you really ARE a Republican and are therefore selfish, greedy, and mean-spirited, a warmonger wanting to turn back the clock to segregation. (How can he possibly be a Republican? He seemed like such a nice guy at first...)
31 posted on 08/05/2003 12:06:41 PM PDT by larlaw
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To: Timesink
There are many issues for which I feel that neither Party will truly address.

1. Illegal immigration is wrong. If you want to protect America, why not begin here at home with the sealing of our borders. This isn't racist. This is the opportunity to actually show that the government is doing all it can to protect the American people.

2. Expansion of government spending. I'm very disturbed by the expansion of our government. I realize that 911 had an affect on that. Okay? So? Why not tighten the belt a little. Why should we pay for the airlines and other industries. Either people wanna travel on plane or they don't.

3. The majority of this country would be better off if we stopped sending monies overseas all the time. Americans work hard for the money. The government just gives it away as though the money comes from a bottomless pit. It does not.

4.Jobs being shipped overseas really disturbs me. Who is doing anything to stop the flow of the American job markets to countries like India. Our government, state governments, and local governments give tax credits and breaks to corporations. Yet, these people will save their profit and then ship over the jobs to foreign markets. Perhaps, the governments of other countries will demand that US Corporations pay their workers the same as their American counterparts. I doubt this would happen, but it would be poetic justice.

5. President Bush's educational plan is awful. Why? Because it has Ted Kennedy's signature all over it. It is wasteful spending and doesn't address the real issues regarding Education in this country.

There is much work to be done by both parties. The choice between big and bigger government is not a very good choice at all. It's depressing to see no government programs decreased in spending.

We live in the land of wealth and opportunity. We have a lot of "wealth" and if you have a scam to sell the government, they'll give you the opportunity. This is the state of our American government today. It's rather ironic. The more the government does to "protect and help America" the less protected or helped we feel.

Perhaps I am the only one not currently happy with what's going on, but I just needed to vent. Maybe I'll feel better now.

So? If Karl Rove or any other Republican Party members actually read this page, please know that my disappointment is mounting. I have voted Republican all my life, but I feel that these are some issues that need to be addressed. Not by some pansy spokesperson, but someone who can actually answer these questions and do something about it.

32 posted on 08/05/2003 12:07:43 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I remember reading a Trotsky paper written in the early 1900's which proclaimed the failure and death of socialism.

Wow, how old are you?

33 posted on 08/05/2003 12:12:43 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: Timesink
ideologically simpatico opinion column writers

Too many big words for this vwrc conservative.

34 posted on 08/05/2003 12:16:43 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: ccmay
'Inflection point' is often used, perhaps because it sounds more intellectual...

I am experiencing real "casus belli" at your unflattering insinuation.

35 posted on 08/05/2003 12:21:57 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Gorjus
The tenor of the blog is that political opinions are just opinions - unjustifiable except by judgment and unconvincing except by cogent argument. Only by being exposed to contrary opinions/arguments can one find truth.

Hence the genius of FR, and my delight in the number of oppositional factions on most threads.

36 posted on 08/05/2003 12:23:14 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: MoJo2001
You have the first half of the perfect 2004 Contract with America right there. Too bad the GOP is mired in self-congratulatory masturbation and desperate re-electioneering to bother with such trivialities as solid party principles.
37 posted on 08/05/2003 12:31:09 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: larlaw
It was Bernard Goldberg who wrote "Bias" and made many of the same points.

Thank you for providing this info. I swear, I wish I had never heard of Alzheimer's (sp?), because now I spend half the time forgetting basic facts and the other half wondering if I'm coming down with it.

Thanks also for sharing your personal stories about mixing with the Eastern elite. It really drives home the point that Goldberg and others make.

38 posted on 08/05/2003 12:32:17 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Tom Bombadil
ideologically simpatico opinion column writers
Too many big words for this vwrc conservative.

"liberal talking heads"

Is that better? ;^)

39 posted on 08/05/2003 12:32:36 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: TontoKowalski
"How did Nixon beat McGovern? I don't know anybody who voted for him."

Actually, that was Pauline Kael, the film critic for The New Yorker, and there's some question as to whether even she ever really said it. (Not that it stops me from using the quote quite often myself, heh heh.)

40 posted on 08/05/2003 12:37:53 PM PDT by Timesink
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