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The Stop-Dean Candidate: Hillary
Washington Journal ^ | 08/04/03 | ROBERT L. BARTLEY

Posted on 08/04/2003 6:16:56 AM PDT by bedolido

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:05:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If Mrs. Clinton wants to save her party, 2008 may be too late.

As we march into August the political question of the moment is, who will emerge as the candidate to stop Howard Dean? Castigating his rivals as insufficiently quixotic, the former Vermont governor bids to pitch the rest of the dwarves out of the ring.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; candidate; electionpresident; hillary; robertlbartley; stopdean
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1 posted on 08/04/2003 6:16:56 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
Is Dean Jewish?
2 posted on 08/04/2003 6:32:23 AM PDT by ICX (Donations to the Odai and Qusai Hussein Memorial Fund can be submitted directly to the Dean campaign)
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To: ICX
I think he is a WASP.
3 posted on 08/04/2003 6:37:11 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: ICX
Is Dean Jewish?

I saw that. I think lieberman is Jewish, but I'm not sure about Dean. It sounds likt the article is talking about Lieberman being Jewish.

5 posted on 08/04/2003 6:39:18 AM PDT by bedolido (Quitters Never Win! Winners Never Quit! But those who never win and never quit are idiots!)
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To: bedolido
Something has to give in the Democratic Party. It has been philosophically based, since FDR, on Keynesian/socialist economics, now totally discredited, and on "social justice", which has been shown to be nothing of the sort. Then the sixties generation of Democrats added pacifism and distrust of the military to the mix. The resulting brew contains too many internal contradictions and obviously false-to-fact assertions to stand for long.

Yet they continue to attempt to ride these dead horses. The raving against the tax cut is economically illiterate. Raving against the war in the face of a successful operation against one of the most brutal and expansionist regimes since Hitler is lunacy. Actively advocating nationalized health care is just as foolish, and has already brought down the Democrats once, in 1994.

No doubt there is a minority of voters out of touch with reality for whom these policies resonate with their feel-good instincts and thirst for social engineering. So New York City may be a Democratic stronghold for a long time. But the rest of the nation is not so blind and stupid.

To overcome these limitations, which have been building for several decades, the Democrats resorted to extreme interest-group politics, in which every group with a big-government program they wanted got together and formed a viable threat to win elections. However, that tactic only works as long as the rest of the voters are willing to be soaked for more money to finance the programs, and that mostly stopped twenty years ago. Since then, the groups have had to jockey amongst themselves, and have begun to notice that their allegiance to the Democrats pays off with fewer goodies every year. And the public has begun to notice that some of these groups, such as the teachers' unions, the public employees' unions, and the poverty pimps in the black community, are (1) failures at delivering anything productive or of value, and (2) totally focused on what they want with complete contempt for anyone who has to suffer to give it to them. Thus these groups are now driving away as many votes as they are bringing in.

The situation is not stable. Massive changes are inevitable. I don't think anyone is smart enough to see what the changes will entail, but something has got to give.
6 posted on 08/04/2003 6:41:25 AM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: bedolido
If we are going to have a battle with the "hate-America" contingent of the Rat party, a contest with Dead is preferable. Pubbies should encourage Dean in every way except agreeing with him.
7 posted on 08/04/2003 6:45:08 AM PDT by shrinkermd (i)
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To: bedolido
This shapes up to be an interesting race between Dean and Hillary.

Dean is fast becoming the most polarizing figure in the Democrat party while Hillary is the most polarizing figure in the USA. What happens when your polarize polarized emissions?

8 posted on 08/04/2003 6:46:39 AM PDT by spald
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To: bedolido
...If Mrs. Clinton wants to save her party,...

The Beast is a destroyer, not a saver.
She has no interest in the dems as a party, only as servants to her Unholiness.
9 posted on 08/04/2003 6:48:05 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: bedolido
Dean is Hillary's 'stalking horse.' In other words, he will galvanize the far left wing of the Dem Party while Hillary move toward the 'center.' He is just setting up the Clintons'end game scenario. There may be the promise of a pay off in it for him just like Ross Perot got from
Bubba Clinton. Always predictable are the Clintons. They believe everybody has a price and are just as corrupt as they are in the end.
10 posted on 08/04/2003 7:04:17 AM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: spald
This shapes up to be an interesting race between Dean and Hillary.

I believe it was reported last week that Dean talked to Hillary before running to make sure she wasn't. I'm sure she is happy for him to get the nomination and then lose big time. She'll save the party in '08.

11 posted on 08/04/2003 7:08:40 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution (Don't believe the liberal media)
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To: bedolido
If Hillary wants the nomination, she will get the nomination. Howard Dean or anybody else better not be standing in the way. In fact it might not be healthy for Dean or his family if Dean would pose a serious obstacle to the nomination. (See Betty Curry's brother)
12 posted on 08/04/2003 7:15:58 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: ex-Texan
Think he'll be her VP?
13 posted on 08/04/2003 7:16:25 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: spald
What happens when your polarize polarized emissions?

Noxious gas?

Sounds like something they tried to teach in chemistry, but I dropped out after a week.

;-)

14 posted on 08/04/2003 7:22:09 AM PDT by mombonn (Have you prayed for our President yet today?)
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To: ICX
I read somewhere that his wife is jewish and I think they obseve the jewish traditions. I don't think he (Dean) is.
15 posted on 08/04/2003 7:22:22 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: spald
What happens when your polarize polarized emissions?

Depends on whether the polarizers are crossed or parallel. I'd say in this case they are parallel policywise, crossed regarding ambition.

16 posted on 08/04/2003 7:32:24 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: shrinkermd
The best way that I can see to ensure the demise of the Democrat party is to deny them use of the "Liberal" label. NEVER use the term liberal to describe anyone in the present Democrat party, and point the contradiction of the terminiology everytime anyone else uses the word "liberal". Liberalism is dead, we now have socialist/fascist control freaks in their place.
17 posted on 08/04/2003 7:46:23 AM PDT by Eva
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To: spald
"What happens when your polarize polarized emissions?"

They annialate (sp) each other...its called DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE....

Very appropriate in this situation

18 posted on 08/04/2003 7:54:33 AM PDT by spokeshave (against albore the wood, rats and fogs)
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To: bedolido
The first of many draft-Hillary! and draft-Gore articles.

They won't do it if Bush stays above 50%. The Dims are rightly worried that Dean could capture the nomination. He has quite a momentum.
19 posted on 08/04/2003 8:00:23 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: mrtysmm
http://www.dvmx.com/deanbio.html

His wife is Jewish and his 2 children consider themselves Jewish.

20 posted on 08/04/2003 8:10:09 AM PDT by duckln
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