[ninonitti]

I guess Teresa Heinz has told her guy to stand on his head like a bottle of ketchup when he's empty of ideas.

Seems to be working just fine. Anytime he can make that raging drunk Ray Flynn seem like a rational man you have to say what is he thinking?

[Jim Noble]

political concerns are secondary to his moral outrage over Thursday's Vatican statement on gay marriage.

Well, that certainly is an unusual way of phrasing it.

"His moral outrage"? What system of "morality" is Senator Kerry a subscriber to, that is "outraged" by the Catholic Church teaching Catholics what being Catholic means? Does Kerry pretend to be Catholic himself?

Is he "outraged" when the rabbi in charge of kosher certification for Boston tells Stop 'n Shop they can't sell ham and label it kosher?

Is he "outraged" when the Islamic Center calls the faithful to prayer five times a day?

Is he "outraged" when the Episcopal Bishop of Massachusetts tells a congregation they must accept a female bishop, or leave their building?

I would say the Senator has some "issues" with Catholicism that he needs to work through here.

[dedicated]

if kerry feels that he can tell of the pope then if he is so "pro-war" why didn't he tell the Pope to mind his own business when the Pope was making all those anti-war comments obviously aimed at the U.S. obviously kerry is more committed to killing babies than he is to our national security.

[Van Jenerette]

Bluntly telling the Vatican to stay out of American politics, U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry yesterday said Pope John Paul II ``crossed the line'' by instructing pols to block legalization of gay marriage....A fuming Kerry, taking on his own Catholic Church in the midst of a campaign for president, said Rome should have more respect for America's long-held separation of church and state.

``It is important not to have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in this country,'' Kerry said.

``Our founding fathers separated church and state in America. It is an important separation,'' he said. ``It is part of what makes America different and special, and we need to honor that as we go forward and I'm going to fight to do that.''

the FOUNDING FATHERS UNLEASHED		Our Constitution provides the legitimate foundations of this country as a free nation that is of the people and by the people but, we must read beyond it words and read it's authors words and thoughts in order to understand the warnings they have sent through generations to it's application in todays world.
		warning... "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams, October 11, 1798 warning... "Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..." - John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson warning... "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." "The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed." "Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom." "It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." - Patrick Henry

The entire argument about sexual behavior is so simple it can be reduced to the following: Should there be any social rules about what sexual activity a human being engages in?

If the answer is no then everyone should just shut up...hetero is okay, cousins are okay, polygamy is okay, bi is okay; gay is okay, 13-year olds are okay, and one or one-hundred-at-a-time are okay, et. al.

However, if a society decides that certain rules about who does whom when and where is functional and perhaps even necessary, all that is left is to decide is WHAT are the rules of sexual behavior and WHO shall make them...simple. Those who follow the 'rules' are then NORMAL and all the rest are PERVERTED or DEVIANT... so very, very simple...you decide.

Sen. John F. Kerry� should study American History and the founders of this nation...he obviously dosn't know it very well...

Van & Katherine Jenerette

www.jenerette.com �

[Amelia]

``What one often calls separation of church and state guarantees the religion the right to express its convictions,'' said Monsignor Francis Maniscalco of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. ``To object to religious people's deep moral convictions . . . would also create a problem because it would also (fail to) recognize something the First Amendment guarantees.''

Former Vatican Ambassador Raymond Flynn said Kerry was just wrong. ``I don't see it as crossing any line at all,'' Flynn said. ``Too many Catholic politicians want to have it both ways, they want the Catholic vote but then they go ahead and ignore Catholic teaching.''

I'm not a Catholic so I'm not sure if I should even have a say, but it seem to me that Kerry is wrong, and Monsignor Maniscalco is correct (not to mention Ambassador Flynn).

If one has religious convictions, those convictions ought to guide one's actions, including voting on morally charged issues such as the definition of marriage or abortion.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

He or Dean on the Democrat ticket would be just wonderful.

[mewzilla]

Who elected the French-looking candidate pope? Maybe Kerry should start wearing his miter.

[Imagine]

If we're supposed to keep "religion" out of politics, why don't we keep "anti-religion" (the evil left extremist groups) out of politics? Memo to Kerry: STFU

[JesseHousman]

..."and many of us who are Catholic voted against him without regard to Catholicism.''

I didn't know this "catsup-for-brains" socialist, horse-faced imbecile was a Catholic.

He could call himself a Catholic, but he has no business receiving Holy Communion.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

The Pope is obviously not familiar with the nuances of political hypocrisy.

[goldstategop]

John F. is pro-choice too. That's what we have with "cafeteria" Catholics. They pick and choose which of the Church's cathechism they will follow. I guess for John F. traditional values is like so square. He should explain to the voters where he stands on gay marriage forthrightly and let the chips fall where they may instead of hiding behind the phony subterfuge about "separation of church and state."

[bert]

that raging drunk Ray Flynn.....

You mean Flynn the terrorist who supported the out of control United Mine Workers in Southwest Virginia and the bloody IRA in Northern Ireland? That Ray Flynn?

[DaBroasta]

I guess Teresa Heinz has told her guy to stand on his head like a bottle of ketchup when he's empty of ideas.

And isn't it 'Heinz' that prides itself in being the slow ketchup?

[chatham]

Kerry is a lost soul, no morals , no courage , no backbone, no Brains, Nothing.
He should get off the public Dole and get a real job.

[OpusatFR]

"Kerry, who supports civil unions but opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, took pains to say, ``I believe in the church'' and ``care about it enormously'' but said church leaders went too far."

Somebody out there a whole lot smarter than I, had better jump on the English parsing between ~civil union~ and ~marriage~ or else the idiots are going to legalize Civil Unions between homosexuals and say it isn't a marriage.

HELP....!!

The left is is ising again..

[ImpBill]

Implosion in process.

Hey Kerry how about you politicians staying out moral issues.

Oooooooooops, forgot that once elected they take on the air of royalty.

[narses]

Ping.

[Nick Danger]

"Nasty gunshot wound you have here, Senator. How'd this happen?"

[section9]

Seems to me that Bush's strategy of appealing to the Catholic center is paying off. Bush's positioning sets him up nicely for the General Election. Otoh, poor Kerry; he was the fair-haired boy. Now it appears that he's going to lose his ass to Howard Dean. And he's going to lose his ass to Howard Dean because Dean is more convincing as a Lefty.

Primary voters, who are screaming lefties or committed Democrats, are much more likely to vote for someone who approves of Gay unions than a squishy liberal like Kerry. Dean is a committed Liberal who is taking advantage of the Left's hatred of Bush and combining it with the Left's belief in The Radiant Future. Gay Marriage is part of that belief.

Which is fine by me, as Gay Marriage is all set to become a wedge issue, with Bush putting himself squarely in the center of American, and Catholic, understanding of what marriage is supposed to be. Kerry is ticked off because Il Papa has just laid out where Catholics should stand as a matter of faith.

John Kerry, Apostate.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Rome2000]

OBEY or face the consequences, you mule faced commie SOB!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChadGore]

When your party demands you diss the pope, you're on th wrong side.