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To: ninonitti
Bluntly telling the Vatican to stay out of American politics, U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry yesterday said Pope John Paul II ``crossed the line'' by instructing pols to block legalization of gay marriage....A fuming Kerry, taking on his own Catholic Church in the midst of a campaign for president, said Rome should have more respect for America's long-held separation of church and state.

``It is important not to have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in this country,'' Kerry said.

``Our founding fathers separated church and state in America. It is an important separation,'' he said. ``It is part of what makes America different and special, and we need to honor that as we go forward and I'm going to fight to do that.''

the FOUNDING FATHERS UNLEASHED

  Our Constitution provides the legitimate foundations of this country as a free nation that is of the people and by the people but, we must read beyond it words and read it's authors words and thoughts in order to understand the warnings they have sent through generations to it's application in todays world.
 




warning...

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams, October 11, 1798



warning...

"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..."

- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson


warning...

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

"The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom."

"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains."

- Patrick Henry

The entire argument about sexual behavior is so simple it can be reduced to the following: Should there be any social rules about what sexual activity a human being engages in?

If the answer is no then everyone should just shut up...hetero is okay, cousins are okay, polygamy is okay, bi is okay; gay is okay, 13-year olds are okay, and one or one-hundred-at-a-time are okay, et. al.

However, if a society decides that certain rules about who does whom when and where is functional and perhaps even necessary, all that is left is to decide is WHAT are the rules of sexual behavior and WHO shall make them...simple. Those who follow the 'rules' are then NORMAL and all the rest are PERVERTED or DEVIANT... so very, very simple...you decide.

Sen. John F. Kerry� should study American History and the founders of this nation...he obviously dosn't know it very well...

Van & Katherine Jenerette

www.jenerette.com

7 posted on 08/02/2003 5:19:21 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If we an keep it!)
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To: Van Jenerette
I still fondly remember your gunpowder, printing press & bible speech that you gave at that SC Freeper Event.

It was a "goose bumper".

If you have that speech saved as a file, I should would love to have it!

13 posted on 08/02/2003 5:31:08 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shoutl for Freedom!)
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To: Van Jenerette
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." Patrick Henry

I hadn't seen that quote. Incredible isn't it that in the mainstream America of today, that makes Henry a rightwing fundamentalist Christian bigot.. How far we have come....

20 posted on 08/02/2003 5:39:13 AM PDT by doosee
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To: Van Jenerette
Bump the quotes...........they go into my quotes.doc file IMMEDIATELY!
37 posted on 08/02/2003 6:28:33 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (>>>>>Liberals Suk. Liberalism Sukz.<<<<<)
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To: Van Jenerette
Excellent post!

As a Catholic I find it amazing when I hear these incredulous remarks by John Kerry.

It truly shows just how far the Democratic Party has strayed since the 1960's.

Kerry should have more respect for his religion, but I guess that doesn't matter to him anymore.

What an absolute creep he is.

49 posted on 08/02/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Van Jenerette

THOMAS JEFFERSON MEMORIAL

STATUE CHAMBER INSCRIPTIONS

I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

Taken from a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800.

We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men. We...solemnly publish and declare, that these colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states...And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

Taken from the Declaration of Independence, 1776.

Almighty God hath created the mind free…All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens…are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion…No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively.

Taken from A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom, 1777. The last sentence is taken from a letter to James Madison, August 28, 1789.

God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever. Commerce between master and slave is despotism. Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than these people are to be free. Establish the law for educating the common people. This it is the business of the state to effect and on a general plan.

Taken from:

A Summary View of the Rights of British America: "God...liberty."

Notes on the State of Virginia: "Can...God?"

Notes on the State of Virginia: "commerce...despotism."

The Autobiography: "Nothing...free."

Letter to George Wythe, August 13, 1780 (?): "Establish...people."

Letter to George Washington, January 4, 1786: "This...plan."

I am certainly not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

Taken from a letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816.

 

74 posted on 08/02/2003 2:19:37 PM PDT by Exton1
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