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"Out of a Bush came words of fire!"

Posted on 07/31/2003 6:48:17 PM PDT by wwcj

Just saw this one posted by "Dolphy"

"I am not going to trust the word of a tyrant when it comes to the security of the American people." GW


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To: MJY1288
Nice find
81 posted on 07/31/2003 7:45:31 PM PDT by wwcj
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
You're making my point. There culture doesn't allow the freedoms we have. They have no concept of it. The idea is an abstraction. Therefore, the idea that hate us over something they not only do not have, but that they do not understand, is silly.

I may have been a little overly critical, though.

82 posted on 07/31/2003 7:46:18 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
If the freedoms that Americans enjoy are such abstractions, then tell me why people die while trying to come to this country, why immigration is always increasing, why Mexicans are dying in the desert, trying to come here. It is the freedom that they wish to have, that fuels their desire to risk their lives to come to America.
83 posted on 07/31/2003 7:46:43 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Quix
Fair enough.
84 posted on 07/31/2003 7:47:14 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: wwcj
"We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions -- by abandoning every value except the will to power -- they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way, to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies." George W. Bush Sept. 20th, 2001
85 posted on 07/31/2003 7:47:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Not because they hate free Americans.
86 posted on 07/31/2003 7:47:49 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Free to buy AMC Gremlins. Now THATS freedom!

No, that's questionable taste. But you are free to do it.

87 posted on 07/31/2003 7:48:03 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done."

September 20, 2001 Address to a Joint Session of Congress (Perhaps the greatest speech in our lifetimes)

88 posted on 07/31/2003 7:48:17 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: right way right
That was suposed to be my joke, that I was replying to your 'Clymer' comment with my "big time" comment. However, I realize that I didn't make it clear.
89 posted on 07/31/2003 7:48:37 PM PDT by evilC (next time try a smiley evilC)
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To: Cacophonous
Freedom is given by God. Every human being knows what freedom is. It is not an abstraction, it is a universal truth. Other countries may supress it, but this does not mean that the people do not die trying to find it for themselves.
90 posted on 07/31/2003 7:48:48 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Cacophonous
"They undoubtedly hate us, and I cannot tell you why, but it's not because we are free."

But, at bottom, it is.

Some hate us because we are successful. But why are we successful?

Some hate us because we practice freedom of religion. And there's that "freedom" word again.

Because the formulation is obvious, I suppose one might think the statement is stupid. But, for many, unfortunately, it's not that obvious.

Bush, I believe, made the obvious clear. There's an element of profundity in that...

91 posted on 07/31/2003 7:50:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: wwcj
Uday Hussein- "This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end."
92 posted on 07/31/2003 7:50:33 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Cacophonous
Check this out..... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/916391/posts sorry I am html impaired, but I don't think the federal judge that sentenced Richard Reid made up his comments about freedom....or if he did, count hiim on the stupid side too.....but please read this thread and then see what you think about freedom.
93 posted on 07/31/2003 7:50:42 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Cacophonous
"We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions -- by abandoning every value except the will to power -- they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way, to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies." George W. Bush Sept. 20th, 2001


Was the President describing the Democrats in this quote ?

:-)

94 posted on 07/31/2003 7:51:13 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: gore_sux; Pan_Yans Wife; deport
I was thinking much of their misery is derived from having most of life's important choices made for them. Their tribalism locks them into a mindset that instinctively shuns original thought. America, representing the chaos of free will, can only be regarded as an enemy of the supplicants of Islam.
While W. handles foreign policy well he may find his domestic stance on immigration reducing his support. Immigrants pursuing citizenship the right way are gravely insulted by the suggestions of amnesty for the illegals.
95 posted on 07/31/2003 7:51:18 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (There are no Palestinians. They are isolated tools in Arabia's intent of finishing the Holocaust.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It's not easy following all the GW does in one day...any given day. I was looking thru the "Daily Dose" and reading the captions when it struck me that I don't remember any president that got so much done.
96 posted on 07/31/2003 7:51:34 PM PDT by wwcj
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To: Cacophonous
Having lived for long periods of time in another unfree society . . .

I disagree.

Freedom is very concrete to even those who dream of it.

They experience it's opposite in 100's of ways daily and dream of the concrete, tangible, experiential opposite of what they daily experience--and many are willing to die for it if the odds look remotely promising. That's what Tienanmen was about.

Granted, some have their heads in the clouds about it and are naive, or ignorant about how to bring the hay out of the loft down to the cows that need to eat it. But even the lofty muddle-headed ones have SOME concrete appreciation for freedom.

Most now have more freedom to eat more food--and they certainly consider THAT very concrete--and a very high priority--being Chinese and all.

I understand your point about abstractions. I think there's a mostly minor validity to it on the part of some people PARTIALLY in some contexts about SOME freedoms. It think it's NOT so true 100% across the board etc.

I don't know if Moslems hate us because we are free or not. They hate us because they consider us a threat and an affront to their religion and their demonic moon god. I suppose in a sense, they hate us because we are free to do some quasi attractive things that they are forbidden to do. And, I suspect they may hate us because we threaten their tyranny with our freedoms.

Some Christians sadly hate homosexuals vs hating the sin. Some hate both. Hate is an equal opportunity evil.
97 posted on 07/31/2003 7:51:42 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE SHARE THE TRUTH RE BILLDO AND SHRILLERY FAR AND WIDE)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
ROFL!!! Where did you get that?!?!

Perhaps it should say Hillary Doesn't. :o#

98 posted on 07/31/2003 7:52:49 PM PDT by arasina (click here ---no, wait a minute---DON'T!)
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To: MJY1288
Great post!
99 posted on 07/31/2003 7:55:05 PM PDT by wwcj
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To: MJY1288
"My opponent thinks Social Security is some kind Government Program"

He was right. Social Security isn't kind at all. It steals money from the younger generations to pay to the greed old folks who think they deserve it as a retirement.
100 posted on 07/31/2003 7:55:30 PM PDT by Chewbacca (No State shall make anything but gold and silver COIN a payment of debt. - Article 1, Section 10)
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