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President Blames Unemployment On Lack Of Tech Skills
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Posted on 07/31/2003 11:53:32 AM PDT by Florida_Irish

During a Wednesday morning (July 30th) press conference, President Bush was asked a question about jobs going overseas as a result of technological innovation. His response was:

"I fully understand what you're saying. In other words, as technology races through the economy, a lot of times worker skills don't keep up with technological change."

Many people have taken his response to mean that unemployment in the high-tech sector is the result of American workers who allowed their skills to become obsolete. This is an unacceptable explanation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; freetrade; jobs; nwo; outsourcing
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To: dirtboy
Here comes Dane again, jumping into the debate like an epileptic chihuahua. School must have just let out.

Shift change at the car wash ....

241 posted on 07/31/2003 1:08:55 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Southack
I doubt that you will **ever** show that the physical size of the American middle class has shrunk with any rational look at available demographic data.

Ah, Southack, it's not just that you're in the middle class, it's WHERE you are in the middle class. If the middle class is considered to be, say, between $30,000 and $100,000 per year for a family of four, someone can go from making $90,000 a year to $35,000 a year but not show up on the resolution of the radar screen you're looking at. But I can guarantee that THEY'LL perceive the difference quite clearly.

242 posted on 07/31/2003 1:09:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: Fpimentel
Except that those of us WITH the skills are getting asked to accept jobs at pay levels from BEFORE the Dot-com boom.

And good luck surviving in greater LA on 35K/year
243 posted on 07/31/2003 1:09:42 PM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: dirtboy
"Gee, Southack, you're in such a bush-battle-bot mode that you're attributing something to me that I never said. I said that government was putting pressure on middle-class taxpayers - government is both singular and plural, in the sense that government can refer to ALL levels of government. I never claimed that Bush was responsible, just that any federal tax rebates to the middle class will, in most cases, be promptly consumed by rapacious state and local governments."

Spin, spin, spin, blah, blah, blah...

Since this is a thread on what Bush has said and done, your spin about "all levels of government" rings hollow. Try again.

244 posted on 07/31/2003 1:09:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: lelio
Such as? I mean a job that won't be offshored to India or China as quick as possible

I'll just stick with the ones I have direct knowledge of. Each of the following requires no more than a two year degree, sometimes less. Vacancy rates nationwide are higher than 15% for each:

Radiologic Technologists (all modalities), Respiratory Therapists, Medical Laboratory Technologists, Medical Informatics professionals, Nurses. In the Mid-Atlantic, the entry level pay for these positions is around $40K/year. Overtime is available. Job security is outstanding, and if benefits aren't necessary, you can work agency for upwards of $80k/year.

245 posted on 07/31/2003 1:10:14 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Salgak
And CEOs of companies that were losing money with $Million+ salaries and multi-million-dollar bonuses WEREN'T gouging ?

That's different. They were just being competitive in the executive talent marketplace. LOL!

246 posted on 07/31/2003 1:10:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Dane
And which it seems that dirt is jumping with the demos on the straw boogieman.

And it's pretty funny, Dane, that your post to me and mhking, trying to start one of your petty little spats of which you are so fond, came right on the heels of mhking agreeing with one of the points I was making.

247 posted on 07/31/2003 1:10:35 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: carton253
No, I bust my butt in learning another skill...

Don't confuse 'em with reality...

248 posted on 07/31/2003 1:11:03 PM PDT by mhking
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To: StolarStorm
Do you support welfare?
249 posted on 07/31/2003 1:11:09 PM PDT by luckydevi
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To: StolarStorm
You don't care about anyone but yourself

I always admired your highly accurate judgement of character

250 posted on 07/31/2003 1:11:16 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Southack
Since this is a thread on what Bush has said and done, your spin about "all levels of government" rings hollow.

Gee, Southack, you just proved my point. You're so blinded by your attack mode that you can't even deal with the topic being broadened, which happens quite often on FR threads.

251 posted on 07/31/2003 1:11:37 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: StolarStorm
The unemployed smart males will be even more dangerous. They are able to organize rebellion. Nothing is more dangerous to a political state than large numbers of pissed off and energized high IQ people.

The recall of Gray Davis is an early symptom of this - that's why the elites are so freaked out by it.

252 posted on 07/31/2003 1:12:13 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: luckydevi
Do you support welfare?

I'm starting to.

253 posted on 07/31/2003 1:13:39 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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To: Florida_Irish
Thankee kindly - info is power. Now I have to see if Opera will blink out yet again. It keep "blinking" off, and I don't know why :P

Back in a minute...

254 posted on 07/31/2003 1:13:40 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: mhking
Nah... they're too busy keeping each other company in their misery...
255 posted on 07/31/2003 1:13:50 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: Dilbert56
It sucks - there's no simple answer.

I agree entirely. But training out-of-work manufacturing workers for tech jobs that are the most likely candidates to be outsourced overseas is definitely NOT one of the possible answers. What this shows is that Bush has given little or no thought to the realities of the modern job market.

256 posted on 07/31/2003 1:14:00 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The recall of Gray Davis is an early symptom of this - that's why the elites are so freaked out by it.

Absolutely ... the comman man is getting fed up and is waking up. If current trends continue ... there's going to be hell to pay

257 posted on 07/31/2003 1:14:44 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: dirtboy
"Southack, what part of "I fully understand what you're saying..." do YOU not understand? Bush is still stuck on last decade's big governmental solution when this decade has different problems. The problem is not a lack of training - we have millions of fully qualified techies out of work. The problem is that jobs are going overseas by the millions - and all you can do is belittle those who believe that destroying our middle class is NOT a good thing."

No, I stand by what I said. There are people who are EAGER to criticize Bush for so little as repeating a question back to a reporter, a question that was about people who had been laid off from textile and manufacturing plants and what Bush was doing to help them, that was rapidly misconstrued as Bush not caring about high-tech workers seeing top-paying jobs disappear, by the way.

Sheesh...

258 posted on 07/31/2003 1:15:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mr. Bird
Radiologic Technologists (all modalities), Respiratory Therapists, Medical Laboratory Technologists, Medical Informatics professionals, Nurses. In the Mid-Atlantic, the entry level pay for these positions is around $40K/year. Overtime is available. Job security is outstanding, and if benefits aren't necessary, you can work agency for upwards of $80k/year.

Great. So if we're ever invaded in 2012, we can defeat them with our MRI machines.

260 posted on 07/31/2003 1:16:13 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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