Pat Buchanan Answers "Who Killed California?"

WND.com ^ | 07-30-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

[bedolido]

Sorry, already posted here.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Preach it brother...

[liberallarry]

It's certainly right...but what could have been done?

Close the borders sounds great but it's never been done because it's never been possible without truly draconian military action, and truly draconian identity checks and penalties at home (national ID cards and death penalty for falsification or illegal entry into the country).

[Reagan Man]

I agree with Pat. Both illegal immigration and excessive legal immigration has severely strained California's infrastructure and seriously damaged its social welfare system.

While border security has been improved since 9-11, there's still a long way to go to assure illegals stop crossing into the US.

However, the majority of blame for California's current troubles and difficulties, lie with the lousy leadership of Gov.Gray Davis.

[JeeperFreeper]

There are certain points here that don't jive with what I see here in Texas. One, there's no denying that Texas gets more than its fair share of illegal immigrants from Mexico. Two, our state still has a pretty good economy. Three, our state budget, while running a projected deficit, is being balanced.
Based on what I see here in Texas, untutored in economics though I am, the problems facing California have more to do with runaway government largesse than illegal immigration.
The Texas constitution requires: 1) a balanced budget (bond indebtedness is allowed, but payments must be budgeted for)
and 2) provides that the legislature meet only once every two years. This biennial restriction keeps the lawmakers out of everyone business somewhat and makes local governments and communities solve their own problems.

[Tallguy]

Califorinia's predicament proves an undeniable truth: A social-welfare state cannot exist with open borders. It's impossible.

[Spirited]

Thank you so much for giving us the "where" it was posted!

[45Auto]

provides that the legislature meet only once every two years

You're absolutely correct. The biggest problem in California is the damn Neo-Marxist full-time (ten months/year) professional political elite scum-bag legislature. They were held in check for over 16 years by successive Republican governors. True, the last Repubo was left of moderate, but he did wield the veto pen a hell of a lot more than did scum-bag Governor Dufus. The RATs in the Cal legislature went insane when they realized that they had TOTAL control over California government; they either bribed or bullied (I think the former) that economic illiterate, Davis, to sign on to their insane Communist Utopia idea - the idea that government can create prosperity by taxing the working class/business out of 70% of their income. This is an idea right out of the Marxist playbook. It has never worked, it never will work, yet these morons refuse to give it up. Government doesn't create anything but debt.

[Joe Bfstplk]

The United States is built on a slope, so everything that's loose winds up in southern California.

[chainsaw]

"Hundreds of thousands were hired to become the highest-paid manufacturing workers on earth, giving California the world's highest standard of living. The average California wage once stood at 130 percent of the average U.S. wage. "

This is what killed California. The rest of the country, not having the same wage structure, couldn't afford the products produced.

[Ohioan]

Actually, it has been posted at least twice before. Nevertheless, it deserves to be read. Without agreeing with Pat on trade, one must certainly acknowledge that he is right on immigration--if anything, Pat is too "liberal" on immigration.

Anyone who truly respects the "diversity," which the Leftists only babble about, will understand that a political society is not a game of musical chairs. Who is in those chairs really does matter. And ten million lower class Mexicans in California, means a different society than if ten million middle class, main stream Americans were in the same places. That is a reality of life, and to fail to understand it, is not tolerance, but a deliberate insult to both groups. Who you are should make a difference. We are not part of an undifferentiated, human ant hill.

See Immigration & The American Future

[helper]

Yes, but what prevents Cal & other States from denying benifits, and education to illegals at their taxpayers expense? It seems that all these great bennies do the attracting, cut them off.

[SAMWolf]

Ronald Reagan put America first.

But it was under Bush-Clinton-Bush that California was irrevocably sacrificed to the gods of the Global Economy.

Good post and I think he hits the target

[Tallguy]

Yes, but what prevents Cal & other States from denying benifits, and education to illegals at their taxpayers expense?

Two words: the Courts.

[helper]

Did it go to the Supreme?

Can you site the cases?

[Joe Hadenuf]

The United States government did. For what killed California as the golden land was massive and unrestricted immigration from the Third World, an unrepelled invasion from Mexico, and a failure to protect the U.S. manufacturing base and the wages of America's workers.

No, no, no, wrong Pat!

California is to blame for this invasion of millions. People from North Carolina to Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, etc will all tell you it's California's fault. This has nothing to do with the Federal government.

Pat is wrong again!

[johnb838]

Yes, but what prevents Cal & other States from denying benifits, and education to illegals at their taxpayers expense? It seems that all these great bennies do the attracting, cut them off.

Yep, that's one reason Texas isn't having the same troubles as Cali. It's not that we deny our social welfare largesse to illegals... we simply don't HAVE the same kind of largesse that these welfare states have.