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Dems Find Hope in Bush Polls
USA Today | July 30, 2003 | USA Today

Posted on 07/30/2003 4:54:10 AM PDT by onevoter

Dems find hope in Bush polls By Susan Page, USA TODAY WASHINGTON — President Bush might seem poised for easy re-election, given his healthy 58% job-approval rating in the latest USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup polls. But another number from the surveys conducted over the past two weekends is giving Democrats hope and Republicans heartburn. Asked who they're likely to vote for in 2004, 47% said Bush and 41% the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be.

That's not a commanding lead, and it puts Bush's support below 50%, a threshold that traditionally divides safe incumbents from those who are vulnerable. "It's a sign that this thing's not done," political analyst Charles Cook says.

Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan didn't show any significant difference between job approval and re-election support, which is one reason job approval is seen as a reliable shorthand for a president's political standing. At this point in his first term, Clinton's job approval was 49%, his re-election support 46%. For Reagan, both were 44%.

But in this way, as in others, Bush is following in his father's footsteps. At this point, the elder Bush's job-approval rating was 74% in the wake of the 1991 Persian Gulf War, but his re-election support was nearly 20 points lower, at 55%.

Why the disparity?

Both Bushes have benefited from the public's inclination to rally around the president when the nation is facing threats from abroad. Amid the conflict in Iraq and the campaign against terrorism, the current president's approval is being boosted by some Americans who are unlikely to vote for him.

In the polls, combined to provide a larger sample, 30% of liberals said they approved of the job Bush was doing, a much higher proportion of those voters than he's likely to carry. Blacks are the major demographic group least likely to vote for Bush, but roughly one in four approved of the job he's doing.

Other groups that contributed to the disparity in the numbers include some voters who are seen as up for grabs in 2004, among them moderates and people younger than 30.

Matthew Dowd, a senior Bush strategist, calls the president's job-approval rating "great" and says his re-election support isn't a concern. In recent years, with a more polarized electorate, most high-profile incumbents have seen their support slip below 50%, he says. He argues that the threshold signaling trouble now is closer to 40%.

By Election Day, voters will be choosing between Bush and a particular Democrat. That will give Republicans a specific target, but it also will give Democrats a chance to speak with a single voice.

At the moment, the polls show a race that's still up in the air. "The opening is there," Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg says. "It is incumbent on us to figure out how to take advantage of it."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; democrats; electionpolls; elections
Exactly which poll are they referring to - this is noticeably absent.
1 posted on 07/30/2003 4:54:11 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: onevoter
Asked who they're likely to vote for in 2004, 47% said Bush; Clinton's job approval was 49%, his re-election support 46%

So if Clinton had it so easy in 96 and his poll numbers were lower, where is the opportunity for Democrats with Bush? It looks like Bush has 1% more in the poll than Clinton at the same time.

2 posted on 07/30/2003 5:00:46 AM PDT by GWB00
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To: onevoter
The poll they covet in their minds. "Hillary's top 10 reasons I hate bush, well George W. Bush."
3 posted on 07/30/2003 5:03:52 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (!!!!!!! sdrawkcab si enilgat ym ,em pleh esaelP)
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To: GWB00
So if Clinton had it so easy in 96 and his poll numbers were lower, where is the opportunity for Democrats with Bush? It looks like Bush has 1% more in the poll than Clinton at the same time

Exactly, the arguement that Bush is in "trouble" is refuted by their own evidence.

There is only one line this story is trying to push, the misleading headline.

4 posted on 07/30/2003 5:06:44 AM PDT by Dane
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To: onevoter
Bush can be beaten, of course. But I'd rather be him than any of the nine dwarves. He's starting off with:

-Good job approval ratings
-Strong leadership ratings, which also happens to be the main consideration of most voters in Presidential polls
-A 14-vote electoral advantage over 2000 thanks to redistricting
-Major bucks in the bank, to be spent against whatever opponent survives, with depleted campaign funds, a bruising primary
-A powerful, proven network of supporters throughout the land
-The bully pulpit of the White House

To me the biggest threat to Dubya isn't what the Dems and libs attempt, but it's potential erosion of his base support. Right now he'd win going away, thanks to strong GOP and conservative support, but if he chooses a few more unorthodox (Dem-like) platforms between now and Nov 04...

5 posted on 07/30/2003 5:10:29 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: onevoter
I think this is wishful thinking. I may be disappointed in some of Bush's positions, therefore his approval rating has gone down, but it doesn't translate into a vote for the Democrats. My approval rating for them is in the tank.
6 posted on 07/30/2003 5:15:24 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: onevoter
Dems Find Hope in Bush Polls

If the democrats really did find hope they'd want to tax it.
I've a stash of bottled air just in case the Leftist loons ever get really inspired.

7 posted on 07/30/2003 5:17:03 AM PDT by jla
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To: Coop
I really dont think his base will flee at this point. Now that he is in re elect mode and seeing his father's past experience i really dont think the base will be his problem.
8 posted on 07/30/2003 5:17:38 AM PDT by DM1
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To: onevoter
Just another of the many rat media psyops pieces we can expect for the next 15 months.
BTW, at this point, the rats will look at ANYTHING and say that it gives them hope of beating W. So here's one guys, today is Wednesday.
9 posted on 07/30/2003 6:05:05 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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Uh, weekend polls? How disingeuous can Susan Page be?

Junk polls will succeed in firing up Bush's base.

Like Rush says, it still is NOT safe to vote Democrat.
10 posted on 07/30/2003 6:15:44 AM PDT by Galtoid
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To: onevoter
I think Ms Page has a case of wishful hoping.
11 posted on 07/30/2003 6:19:32 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: onevoter
It is July 2003. The election is November 2004.

I will leave it at that.

12 posted on 07/30/2003 6:42:39 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: DM1
Am sorry that GWB is going to lose San Francisco and NYC, but we need to remember the electoral college as that is what counts.
13 posted on 07/30/2003 4:44:40 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: oldtimer
As the old saying goes, the only poll that matters is the one on election day. So far, GWB has avoided most of the sins of his father, but it's a long way from being a slam dunk.

IMO, the biggest factor is the economy. If the recovery continues to strengthen and things start looking rosy there, the President will get the credit. Of course, if it tanks, he gets the blame.

The war is actually less of a factor because the public will be willing to pay what it takes -- as long as it is not seen as having a negative effect on them, personally.

All that to one side, we need some good news on the terrorist front. Preferably a picture of OBL with a small round hole in his forehead or Saddam in chains.
14 posted on 09/14/2003 2:48:40 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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