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Stalin plot to kill Wayne
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| 7/29/2003
| ALLAN HALL
Posted on 07/29/2003 7:05:23 PM PDT by sjersey
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To: Restorer
Well, and Wayne probably wasn't even a big enough star in 1943 to attract Stalin's attention.
To: Restorer
As a student at UBC in the early '60s, I occasionally paid a quarter to watch U.S. Dept. of the Army(IIRC) pro-Soviet propaganda films from Lend Lease days. Lots of film of jeeps, bombers, and smiling Uncle Joe Stalin, America's bestest pal!
The left-wing NDP Club sponsored the lunchtime showings as a fund-raiser.
They were fairly amusing, in an ironic sort of way. ;^)
To: thinktwice
They broke into his changing room at Warner Brothers Hollywood studios in 1943 but the FBI ambushed them. John did not make a single movie for WB between 1933 and 1951.
Stalin was killing every opponent in sight from the early thirties on.
Actually a lot earlier than that. I have no doubt he would be perfectly willing to kill anybody. He just had no reason to want to kill this particular American movie actor.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:25:48 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: Restorer
Ahem. In 1943, there was no such thing as an A-bomb. There were programs in the US working towards one (heavily infiltrated by Soviet spies), but nobody had any idea whether it would really work. Indeed. Not sure why you posted this to me, but I am aware of it and I concur.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:27:05 PM PDT
by
Riley
To: sjersey
This is horsepockey. While the Duke might have been a strong anti-Communist in 1943 he wasn't publicly crusading against it until years afterwards. Besides which, we were allied with the USSR against Hitler at the time, John Wayne was making pro-war/pro-alliance films until the war was over.
Stalin was nuts, but he had bigger problems than a Hollywood actor.
To: sjersey
In 1943 the only person who was verbally attacking Stalin was General Patton. He thought they were vermin and wanted to keep on taking land after germany. The official line was that we were friends and allies.
In retrospect he was right but he got his hands whacked more than once for his criticism.
Wayne was a hollywood footnote then and had not yet achieved the great audience that came later.
This story is poop.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:28:06 PM PDT
by
Cold Heat
(Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
John became a major star in 1939, due to
Stagecoach.
But he didn't become numero uno till the '50s.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:28:41 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: El Gato
Who was more likely to have been a German agent rather than a Soviet one. But then again, Old Uncle Joe was probably a few beets short of a borscht by 1943, so almost anything is possible. The Germans running a Ukrainian network in the States?
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:29:19 PM PDT
by
Riley
To: Finalapproach29er
His real name was MARION. LOL!!! "FILL YOUR HAND, YOU SONUVABITCH!"
To: Riley
Sorry. Should have posted my comment to the original poster.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:30:26 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: Finalapproach29er
OH I knew that
John Wayne real name was Marion Morrison NOT SURE it was Hollywood agent represent him
If you were Joseph Stalin were you take on John Wayne PLEASEEE
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:33:34 PM PDT
by
SevenofNine
(Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
To: sjersey
Mr Mann, who has written a book on the plot due out in the autumn, claims Wayne wanted to send the men back to Moscow in wooden boxes but the FBI would not let him. Boy, those FBI agents can be real wet blankets sometimes.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:34:39 PM PDT
by
lowbridge
(You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
To: Restorer
He became a star with
Stagecoach, but it wasn't until 1948, with
Red River and
Fort Apache that he became a superstar.
Even as late as 1942, he only got third billing (behind Marlene Dietrich and Randolph Scott) in The Spoilers and Pittsburgh, and in 1943's A Lady Takes a Chance, he got second billing behind Jean Arthur.
Not exactly fodder for the paranoid delusions of a dictator.
To: sjersey
Now that could rile a dude up!
To: sjersey
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them."
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:39:46 PM PDT
by
risk
To: sjersey
"OK, I won't send them back to moscow in Wooden Boxes... The HELL I won't..."
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:39:56 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(So, I'm in the park wondering why frisbees get larger as they get closer when suddenly, it hits me..)
To: Restorer
The way I read this is that Stalin wanted to do a number on Wayne in the early 40's, not about what Wayne was doing.
Your interpertation seems inapprorpriate.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:45:40 PM PDT
by
LaMudBug
To: Nucluside
;-)
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:46:05 PM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(>>>>>Liberals Suk. Liberalism Sukz.<<<<<)
To: thinktwice
I did. I think Stalin and Lenin were the two most evil men who ever lived.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:49:23 PM PDT
by
OldCorps
To: Bobby777
Hmmmm.... Saddam was a Stalinist. Could he be seeking support from Stalinist Communists in the former Soviet Union, ..... because Saddam is/was an enemy of the US?
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:02:03 PM PDT
by
PokeyJoe
(The great chickenhawk returns September 1, 2003)
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