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Stalin plot to kill Wayne
The Sun ^
| 7/29/2003
| ALLAN HALL
Posted on 07/29/2003 7:05:23 PM PDT by sjersey
SOVIET tyrant Josef Stalin ordered hitmen to kill movie idol John Wayne, it was claimed yesterday.
The murderous dictator feared that famously anti-Communist superstar Wayne would thwart his plans for a global red revolution.
British historian Michael Mann said: Stalin saw him as a gigantic propaganda symbol against the Soviets.
He was much more subtle than the atomic bomb but Stalin saw him as no less deadly.
He said that two exiled Ukrainians living in America were given a contract to shoot the movie gunslinger, nicknamed The Duke.
They broke into his changing room at Warner Brothers Hollywood studios in 1943 but the FBI ambushed them.
The Ukrainian pair then revealed they were acting for Stalin.
Mr Mann, who has written a book on the plot due out in the autumn, claims Wayne wanted to send the men back to Moscow in wooden boxes but the FBI would not let him.
He says the death sentence on Wayne ended when Stalin died in 1953.
When Nikita Kruschev took over he ordered the KGB to stop plotting against Wayne his favourite actor.
TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Russia
KEYWORDS: fbi; hollywood; johnwayne; kgb; soviets; stalin
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:05:23 PM PDT
by
sjersey
To: sjersey
Mr Mann, who has written a book on the plot due out in the autumn, claims Wayne wanted to send the men back to Moscow in wooden boxes but the FBI would not let him. "You're layin' a hand on the wrong man, pilgrim!"
To: sjersey
Stalin - You BASTARD!!!!!!!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:09:21 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("If it feels good, Do It! Don't Think Twice!" - Lynyrd Skynyrd)
To: sjersey
Remarkably stupid story. Wayne didn't become well known as an anti-communist spokesman for about 20 years after this supposed incident. In 1943, the US and USSR were allied against Germany and John was busy making prowar movies.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:10:12 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: sjersey
Red Octopus!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:11:53 PM PDT
by
tet68
To: sjersey
Wow, this is quite a story, if true.
Stalin would love most of the actors in today's Hollywood.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:12:41 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
To: sjersey
Are you sure this story didn't first appear in "The Onion"?
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:13:04 PM PDT
by
Lockbar
To: Restorer

"Outlived you, ya Commie bastard."
Actually, I agree with you. Stalin's doing this in 1943 doesn't make sense on any level.
To: sjersey
This 'tease' doesn't say what happened to the two Ukrainians. Did they rot in prison? Deported? Executed?
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:16:16 PM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(>>>>>Liberals Suk. Liberalism Sukz.<<<<<)
To: Restorer
Wayne didn't become well known as an anti-communist spokesman for about 20 years after this supposed incident. In 1943, the US and USSR were allied against Germany and John was busy making prowar movies. That, and the Ukrainians wouldn't know who ordered the job beyond their Control Officer.
10
posted on
07/29/2003 7:16:36 PM PDT
by
Riley
To: sjersey
NO F**** WAY THE DUKE?
Stalin vs Duke
I take Duke in less than 3 rounds
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:17:04 PM PDT
by
SevenofNine
(Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
Hardly anybody was vigorously anti-commie in 1943 in Hollywood.
The enemy of my enemy, and all that...
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:18:10 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: sjersey
Stalin plot to kill Wayne
I curse his mustache!!!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:20:19 PM PDT
by
Bobby777
To: Riley
British historian Michael Mann said: Stalin saw him as a gigantic propaganda symbol against the Soviets. He was much more subtle than the atomic bomb but Stalin saw him as no less deadly.
Ahem. In 1943, there was no such thing as an A-bomb. There were programs in the US working towards one (heavily infiltrated by Soviet spies), but nobody had any idea whether it would really work.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:20:37 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
To: sjersey
The ironic thing is, while this article is obviously fake, for reasons cited elsewhere, were someone to turn into a story about how, for example, Eisenhower plotted to kill liberal Gregory Peck, the "serious" media would probably run with it.
To: DoctorMichael
They prospered. Their progeny now run the National Education Association and Democrat Party.
To: Riley
That, and the Ukrainians wouldn't know who ordered the job beyond their Control Officer. Who was more likely to have been a German agent rather than a Soviet one. But then again, Old Uncle Joe was probably a few beets short of a borscht by 1943, so almost anything is possible.
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:22:19 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: sjersey

Kill Wayne? That would leave Garth in charge!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:22:43 PM PDT
by
x
To: Restorer
Stalin was killing every opponent in sight from the early thirties on.
Read Solzsenitsyn's "Gulag" for some insight on Stalin.
To: SevenofNine
His real name was MARION. LOL!!!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:22:59 PM PDT
by
Finalapproach29er
("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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