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Bills to keep jobs in USA create uproar
USA TODAY ^
Posted on 07/29/2003 7:09:27 AM PDT by Mick2000
Just three years ago, Congress voted to allow more foreign workers into the United States. Times have changed.
Politicians are proposing tough opponents say misguided steps to keep jobs at home in the face of rising unemployment, a growing number of white-collar jobs being transferred to India and other countries and lingering anger over some U.S. allies' opposition to the war in Iraq.
The House has passed measures to require the Defense and State departments to buy a larger share of equipment from U.S. firms. The measure, which has provoked a corporate and political uproar, has not been approved by the Senate.
Legislators in several states are trying to bar the export of government jobs to foreign companies.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., chair of a Judiciary subcommittee, plans a hearing today on possible problems in the L-1 visa program, which allows companies to bring workers to the USA from their foreign operations. Workers complain that firms are using the program as a backdoor way to replace domestic employees with cheaper labor.
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To: Dead Dog
Most corporate leadership, especially those outsourcing, do not adhere to a philosophy that would have built the businesses they now run. I believe you will find that many such companies started out as private, and then went short term when they went public. Maybe some tax-legislation to encourage reverse-IPOs for companies that manufacture WITHIN the US?
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:58:16 AM PDT
by
sam_paine
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To: dogbyte12
Pogo was right!
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:58:55 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: dfwgator
Bills to keep jobs in USA create uproar Did anybody else see the "uproar" in the article? I guess I missed it. The excuse that offshoring is to help get a toehold in an overseas market is BS. My counterparts in India, whom I must pester on a daily basis to get even the most rudimentary information, are taking jobs from Americans.
I'm sure that somewhere down the line they will probably be used to source software for the local market, but who the hell is currently going to buy it?
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posted on
07/29/2003 7:59:32 AM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
To: rmmcdaniell
That is the message we should be giving to ALL elected feds - the other guys have the lobbyists, but WE still have the votes.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:00:05 AM PDT
by
Ed_in_NJ
To: dfwgator
My point is, companies can find easy workarounds for any legislation that gets thrown at them.You're so right, and I cannot believe so many on this board are throwing around socialist phraseology like "the rights of the working class" and "government regulation to enforce prosperity!!"
What we need is a way to encourage companies to return to private financing instead of prostituing themselves to short term investors who have no knowlege or interest whatsoever of the companies they invest in.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:01:46 AM PDT
by
sam_paine
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To: Ed_in_NJ
That is the message we should be giving to ALL elected feds - the other guys have the lobbyists, but WE still have the votes. Here is the problem. Ask americans in a survey, what H1B means. Bet ya 80% have no clue. That is what the republicrats count on. They want people to remain ignorant, so they can keep the gravy train rolling.
To: Mick2000
The overemphasis on quantity of jobs (instead of quality) is a relic of the Keynesian era. Old habits die hard.
If our aerospace/defense industries are not forced to compete with foreign firms, they will not work as hard to create new technologies and improvements. Our troops will be armed with second or third tier equipment, or worse.
To: dogbyte12
Ask americans in a survey, what H1B means. Bet ya 80% have no clue.Who cares, Oprah's on!!
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:03:30 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: goldstategop
That's right. I won't buy a Dell when I look for another computer because it's moving its firm to China. Uh uh. New York State used to have so many factories. Now it's putting its folks to work at Malls and in tourism. Low paying jobs going nowhere. Bring back the industry, Mr. Pataki!
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:05:14 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is still in control!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Congress can start by abolishing the federal income tax and eliminating the junk science environmental regulations and antiquated labor laws from the 1930s.Bingo. The answer is more freedom, not less. Why conservatives support laws keeping individuals from using their money to purchase a product from foreign firms is beyond me. If we are about freedom, that has to include the freedom to use private funds as the individual sees fit. Why is it wrong for the individual to buy a Japanese car or DVD player, but it's okay for him to buy American? Must he be made a slave to labor interests?
To: sam_paine
Absolutely, and like was said in this thread, it starts with the IRS, EPA, and unions.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:06:22 AM PDT
by
Dead Dog
(There are no minority rights in a democracy. 51% get's 49%'s stuff.)
To: Marysecretary
Low paying jobs going nowhere.Pushing more Americans into no or little fed. income tax brackets.
Where is the gubmit money going to come from?
To: Thane_Banquo
A US company gets subsidized by the feds for a military project. The feds basically pay for the R&D. Then the US company takes this knowledge, and lays off it's US work force, to hire overseas, in a country that the US taxpayers pay to defend with our military. That's fair.
Until we start making the rest of the world cough up their own bills, free trade is a joke.
We should not have to pay $1 to defend Europe, Japan, South Korea. If they can't raise a military, let them pay for ours. If we are going to get out of subsidies, it has to be an even equation.
We also have to insist that Canada and Mexico pay fair market for drugs. If they want cheaper drugs they can pay a drug tax on each item they ship to us, to make up for the fact that we taxpayers in the US are obliged to do so now.
To: All
Since most people here are for this idea, can someone please explain why regulating business more than it already is will provide any incentive for them to stay state-side? It seems to me that the more they are regulated, the more they will search for over-seas opportunities, where they will not have to deal with union labor, enviro-wackos, etc.
We all agree that there is a problem, but how will this solve it? This solution seems worse than the problem.
To: Ayn Rand wannabe
In NY State, the high taxes drove them out to other states like Ohio and to Mexico, etc. They need a tax break in order to stay here. I think it would be worth every penny.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:14:42 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is still in control!)
To: HurkinMcGurkin
#26 is a great response.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Progressive income tax, the root of all evil in the USA today, the blood sucker that is killing the Republic. Get rid of it and most of our problema will go away.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:15:50 AM PDT
by
jpsb
To: dfwgator
Given the unrelenting increases in the cost of living, taxes, welfare and health programs for these invaders and general decline in our quality of life I'll gladly take another shot of a good dose of protectionism. Maybe then we can get our alleged leaders to start putting the interests of Americans ahead of the foreign corporations.
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posted on
07/29/2003 8:15:52 AM PDT
by
american spirit
(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
To: misterrob
We need to get rid of the uneducated scum on Wall Street, when the world revolves around the trash of the planet, that's what you get, trash.
To: Mick2000
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